If that happens, D* or Comcast will get a huge influx of new subs long before it gets too bad...
AT&T moves ahead on Dish deal
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Sorry, but here SBC became AT&T and asbsolutely nothing changed.And AT&T has already started milking me. With SBC, my DSL was cheap. Now, I get the same exact service for more money. I see them doing the same thing with Dish Network.
It still continues to be the most reliable Internet service I have ever had (and I have had Internet service for over 20 years), and the price has not changed one penny since AT&T takeover.
They did not change any of the regional personnel, so nothing much changed.
I would expect Dish Network to be about the same, before and after.
And this would have absolutely zero effect on HD announcements or HD plans. If for no other reason than the deal might not happen (as past history has showed).
The height of insanity is to assume that the person who designed that billing system still works at AT&T. (Just as likely that they work for Sprint now.
) In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the number of people who worked for AT&T back then, and still work for them now, is zero.
I totally agree the only thing price wise I've seen happen is the addition of a $10 dsl plan which is now the cheapest option.
If AT&T buys Dish then they may act more like D* and add a lot more channels and not feel as compelled to hold down the price like Charlie does. Or they may drag their feet and not change very much like some other companies.
I just fear that it won't nearly be a fun to track their movements online as we have been doing up until now. That is almost one of the reason I like Dish so much, is that its fun to watch them here in the online community.
Still, if things don't look good after an at&t aquisition, then I'd just move to D*. If Charlie starts a 2nd service, then I would likely jump to that immediately.
There has been talk that Charlie has split Echostar off from Dish Network. This way he can sell the DishNetwork service to at&t and retain the hardware producing echostar. Then when he starts a 2nd service, he can continue to use the same hardware, unloads all of those mpeg2 legacy customers and can start fresh. hmmm..
I just fear that it won't nearly be a fun to track their movements online as we have been doing up until now. That is almost one of the reason I like Dish so much, is that its fun to watch them here in the online community.
Still, if things don't look good after an at&t aquisition, then I'd just move to D*. If Charlie starts a 2nd service, then I would likely jump to that immediately.
There has been talk that Charlie has split Echostar off from Dish Network. This way he can sell the DishNetwork service to at&t and retain the hardware producing echostar. Then when he starts a 2nd service, he can continue to use the same hardware, unloads all of those mpeg2 legacy customers and can start fresh. hmmm..
and all he would need were two sats to start with to mirror what Dish network has today. That could be interesting.
I don't know that comparing a Dish/Att merger with what you've experienced with SBC or Bell South is that straight forward. On the telephony side, although they are one name they are still essentially 2 entities. One side is the local exchange carrier and the other long distance. They are separated by culture and many layers of entrenched interests. They are like two large creatures circling each other in a tense standoff. If ATT acquires a portion of Dish (after Dish has split into two companies) there will be some period where not much change will happen but I think it will come. Hard to say what that will be and if it will be good or bad for customers. I do think it would feel a lot more impersonal (wouldn't have Charlie to kick around anymore). As someone living outside of the regional territory of the local exchange carriers absorbed into the new ATT I'd be concerned that the new company would care that much about my service. (Of course, I can't say that Dish as it now exists cares that much about my service anyway.)
Oh well, if this happens as FIOS is getting closer to the roll-out in my town, I will definetely switch. Now I understand why I have received a call from *E CSR offering me a free upgrade from 1 ViP622 to 1 ViP722 and from 2 ViP211 to 2 ViP222, the catch was to re-sign a 18 months contract. Needles to mention that I have refused the offer. Well if this deal take place I am forced to hang out with *E until FIOS is in my town, but when it gets there, bye bye DISH/AT&T.
Why are you all so negative?
AT&T did more in my area for support and service when they bought out Jones inter cable. And when they sold the area to Comcast customer service sure was not the same... Guess what way I thought it went.
I doubt what Dish offerers us to day will change for the worse. As then there would be a mass exit and everyone knows it... but on the positive side... AT&T has deeper pockets then Dish... can that hurt?
And I bet more content providers will work with AT&T more willingly then Charley. Not saying he has not done an outstanding job looking out for our pocket books... but at the moment content is king... look at DTV and their HD offerings. and listen to the grumblings here.... Need i digress more??
AT&T did more in my area for support and service when they bought out Jones inter cable. And when they sold the area to Comcast customer service sure was not the same... Guess what way I thought it went.
I doubt what Dish offerers us to day will change for the worse. As then there would be a mass exit and everyone knows it... but on the positive side... AT&T has deeper pockets then Dish... can that hurt?
And I bet more content providers will work with AT&T more willingly then Charley. Not saying he has not done an outstanding job looking out for our pocket books... but at the moment content is king... look at DTV and their HD offerings. and listen to the grumblings here.... Need i digress more??
Might be a good time to jump ship and go to D**** and after the buy out and after the new sat's go up come back to the New AT&T/Dishnetwork as a new customer! Might be some good deals for new customers!
AT&T to buy Dish could happen in weeks
News
Citigroup: AT&T Likely to Buy EchoStar
The Street.com reports that the telco has hired Goldman Sachs to review the deal.
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (October 16, 2007) -- Citigroup analyst Jason Bazinet says there's a "65 percent chance" that AT&T will buy EchoStar in the next 12 months.
The acquisition rumor was fueled recently when EchoStar announced it would split the company into two, separating its technology division from its TV business, known as Dish Network.
TheStreet.com reports today that AT&T has hired Goldman Sachs to review the possible acquisition of EchoStar, the nation's second leading satcaster.
The deal would make sense for both companies with AT&T struggling with its TV service called U-verse and EchoStar facing competition from companies with deeper pockets such as DIRECTV.
With AT&T as an owner, EchoStar could invest more heavily in projects such as new satellites for High-Definition TV channels.
Citibank's analyst issued a note today saying he expects that AT&T will pay $65 a share to buy EchoStar's TV business.
The two companies today refused to comment.
But TheStreet.com quotes one source as saying the deal could be "put together" in the next 3-6 weeks.
News
Citigroup: AT&T Likely to Buy EchoStar
The Street.com reports that the telco has hired Goldman Sachs to review the deal.
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (October 16, 2007) -- Citigroup analyst Jason Bazinet says there's a "65 percent chance" that AT&T will buy EchoStar in the next 12 months.
The acquisition rumor was fueled recently when EchoStar announced it would split the company into two, separating its technology division from its TV business, known as Dish Network.
TheStreet.com reports today that AT&T has hired Goldman Sachs to review the possible acquisition of EchoStar, the nation's second leading satcaster.
The deal would make sense for both companies with AT&T struggling with its TV service called U-verse and EchoStar facing competition from companies with deeper pockets such as DIRECTV.
With AT&T as an owner, EchoStar could invest more heavily in projects such as new satellites for High-Definition TV channels.
Citibank's analyst issued a note today saying he expects that AT&T will pay $65 a share to buy EchoStar's TV business.
The two companies today refused to comment.
But TheStreet.com quotes one source as saying the deal could be "put together" in the next 3-6 weeks.
'Perspective on Facts of the new "AT&T"
"And AT&T has already started milking me. With SBC, my DSL was cheap. Now, I get the same exact service for more money. I see them doing the same thing with Dish Network."
SBC is running the show. BST and AT&T report to their management.
"And AT&T has already started milking me. With SBC, my DSL was cheap. Now, I get the same exact service for more money. I see them doing the same thing with Dish Network."
SBC is running the show. BST and AT&T report to their management.
So which of the two is it, assuming the company is split?
AT&T buying Dish Network, or AT&T buying Echostar? Are they after the residential customer base, or the equipment and patents side of things?
AT&T buying Dish Network, or AT&T buying Echostar? Are they after the residential customer base, or the equipment and patents side of things?
It seems AT&T will need the existing equipment and the ability to produce more to satisfy current and near future customer demand when the deal is done.
From what I understand, AT&T would buy Dish. Charlie would keep Echostar (equipment and sats). It seems to me AT&T is all about acquiring customer bases; they probably don't give a crap about hardware.
