Why is Direct Tv so expensive ?

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EXACTLY! The PQ sucks; as in black, as it is not offered at ALL - at ANY PRICE; give it a rest already. FiOS is NOT the end-all, be-all. They are a great VERY regional provider that fills some need market wise. I will pay less money overall with DirecTV for likely less than 1% or 2% difference in PQ AND I get programming MOST FiOS TV users would pee themselves to have and my own hand-selected ISP, telephone/VoIP, and cellular providers. With services I prefer and are better; with the noted exception of the ISP 8mbps vs the FiOS faster service. Now I can't yet speak to the FiOS customer service, but I have ZERO issues across the board with those I have now and there is absolutely no issues with needing to pay one company vs 2, 3 or whatever.
 
I totally agree with garn9173. I never had a provider, cable, D*, or PrimeStar play games with programming the way E* does. I too thought I could save some money with E*, but then came the price increases, all the add in charges, and they weren't any cheaper at all. I escaped them as soon as I could and went back to D*. As others have said, E* markets to budget conscious consumers while D* uses a much different business model than E*. They want long term credit worthy subs. Those are the ones that won't be chased off by up front costs and use "advanced services" which account for almost half of D*'s subs now according to their latest financial reports. Their position on this isn't going to change and in the long run your costs with D* will be about the same as E*. The big difference is you'll have the channels you want.

Here,here :clap as an ex-E* sub and now back with D* over 3 1/2 years now I totally agree. Nothing like playing channel roulette with Charlie and the boys everytime a new one rolls out.
 
give it a break same as i have with dish 2 dual tuner dvr hd and a stand alone hd receiver.
Trust me i have not trolling i never post in DTV area i had DTV 1x time in my life back wehn they had ussb.

Considering they don't have dual tuner DVR's it is still a valid question. I had a dual tuner DVR with Dish and only used it on one TV so I did not need two boxes to do what the one did. That is why it is still tough to know what equipment is needed for your setup. Was the deal for the following

2 - HD-DVR's
1 = HD
2 = SD

?????

It is just hard to validate your point when you don't let people know what you are paying for.
 
You can get phone, hdtv, and internet for not much more than what many people are paying for directv alone right now.

This is not always true for companies. With my cable systems it is cheaper for me to have service from three different providers than it is to have their bundle for the three services. You also say that FIOS is the end all be all, but what about us that don't live in a Verizon area and never will have such a service?
 
EXACTLY! The PQ sucks; as in black, as it is not offered at ALL - at ANY PRICE; give it a rest already. FiOS is NOT the end-all, be-all. They are a great VERY regional provider that fills some need market wise. I will pay less money overall with DirecTV for likely less than 1% or 2% difference in PQ AND I get programming MOST FiOS TV users would pee themselves to have and my own hand-selected ISP, telephone/VoIP, and cellular providers. With services I prefer and are better; with the noted exception of the ISP 8mbps vs the FiOS faster service. Now I can't yet speak to the FiOS customer service, but I have ZERO issues across the board with those I have now and there is absolutely no issues with needing to pay one company vs 2, 3 or whatever.

Verzion customer service is a crapshot. Once you get to a human you will find yourself in transfer hell.
 
I just find it crazy DTV wants me to spend $396.00 to lease my equipment. I understand thay have more HD But damn thats alot of money. And when you factor in 2ys contract WOW.

Why?

With the cost of the lease upgrade fees your subsidising the cost of the equipment. The HD DVR alone would cost well over $600 to buy.
 
If you think Directv is too expensive then why are you considering it as one of your options? Just cross it off your list and choose another service.
 
Doesn't everyone have more HD channels than FiOS?

If you want some extra channels of stretch o vision as opposed to top notch picture quality, more local channels in hd in most markets, the ability to use tivo hd, a much more robust on demand offering and dvr and media sharing, that's your choice.
 
Trust me i'm no troll right now i have Dish but with the recent issues with amc14 i might want to switch over to DTV. With Dish i have 2 vip722 dual tuner dvrs and a vip 211 receiver total out of pocket expense was $50.00 and 18 month contract. My monthly programming is a $49.99 dvr advantage $10.00 hd essential $7.00 lease fee each receiver and $5.98 dvr fee.

I also have the option of either Comcast or Fios. Just checking my options.


Well it looks like Dish is going to be able to make AMC 14 work which is a good thing,so now you can stay with Dish and be happy with the programming you have or don't have.Good Luck!:)
 
EXACTLY! The PQ sucks; as in black, as it is not offered at ALL - at ANY PRICE; give it a rest already. FiOS is NOT the end-all, be-all. They are a great VERY regional provider that fills some need market wise. I will pay less money overall with DirecTV for likely less than 1% or 2% difference in PQ AND I get programming MOST FiOS TV users would pee themselves to have and my own hand-selected ISP, telephone/VoIP, and cellular providers. With services I prefer and are better; with the noted exception of the ISP 8mbps vs the FiOS faster service. Now I can't yet speak to the FiOS customer service, but I have ZERO issues across the board with those I have now and there is absolutely no issues with needing to pay one company vs 2, 3 or whatever.

I think you will find most fios users would not give up their service for a few channels they do not get. Too many advantages.
 
I think you will find most fios users would not give up their service for a few channels they do not get. Too many advantages.
Questioner, if you've already answered this question before, please accept my apology for asking it again, but here it is:

Do you have FIOS service for your television now?

If so, great, good for you. If not, why do you come onto a D* oriented site and praise them so much while constantly bitching about/badmouthing D*?

The main reason that most of us do not have it is because it's not even available in the area in which we live. Also, to the best of my knowledge, they (FIOS) don't offer a dual-tuner HD DVR.

I'm asking this in good faith, I'd appreciate a like-minded reply.

Thanks in advance.
 
Questioner, if you've already answered this question before, please accept my apology for asking it again, but here it is:

Do you have FIOS service for your television now?

If so, great, good for you. If not, why do you come onto a D* oriented site and praise them so much while constantly bitching about/badmouthing D*?

The main reason that most of us do not have it is because it's not even available in the area in which we live. Also, to the best of my knowledge, they (FIOS) don't offer a dual-tuner HD DVR.

I'm asking this in good faith, I'd appreciate a like-minded reply.

Thanks in advance.

He does have Fios but he spends a lot of time here. Maybe there is nothing on TV so he comes here to tell every one to switch.
 
Questioner, if you've already answered this question before, please accept my apology for asking it again, but here it is:

Do you have FIOS service for your television now?

If so, great, good for you. If not, why do you come onto a D* oriented site and praise them so much while constantly bitching about/badmouthing D*?

The main reason that most of us do not have it is because it's not even available in the area in which we live. Also, to the best of my knowledge, they (FIOS) don't offer a dual-tuner HD DVR.

I'm asking this in good faith, I'd appreciate a like-minded reply.

Thanks in advance.

Before he answers it's a dual tuner Motorola box. It has a pretty picture but thats about it. The guide is awful and slow. Once you get pass the Internet speed you find it not that great.
 
If you want some extra channels of stretch o vision as opposed to top notch picture quality, more local channels in hd in most markets, the ability to use tivo hd, a much more robust on demand offering and dvr and media sharing, that's your choice.

When is that channel comparison that you promised by yesterday being posted?
 
Before he answers it's a dual tuner Motorola box. It has a pretty picture but thats about it. The guide is awful and slow. Once you get pass the Internet speed you find it not that great.

With fios, I use a tivo hd dvr with cablecard, nothing beats it.
 
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