NCAA Football 2008-09 Season

The SEC has the biggest cupcake schedule in the country.

LSU, Florida- try playing a real OOC instead of the Sun Belt!

IMO, SEC should stand for

Scheduling
Easy
Cupcakes
Doesn't look like too many cupcakes to me, especially compared to other conferences. Every SEC school except LSU plays another BCS conference team in addition to their SEC schedule, of course.

Alabama - Clemson
Arkansas - Texas
Auburn - West Virginia
Florida - Florida State, Miami
Georgia - Arizona State, Georgia Tech
Kentucky - Louisville
Ole Miss - Wake Forest
Mississippi State - Georgia Tech
South Carolina - Clemson
Tennessee - UCLA
Vandy - Wake Forest (and Duke, but should we really count that)
 
Utah post-Meyer

7-5
8-5
9-4

3-0 in bowls (they've won seven straight). There's a good chance you will find them in the top 25 of some of the preseason publications (Phil Steele has them at #14). Urban started something there that others will be able to build on.

There is something to be said for striking while the iron is hot and USF has been able to do that while Miami and FSU have been down.

CFB is cyclical and everyone has a down period.

Thanks Matt,
I guess it's a out of the public eye type of thing, I haven't heard much about them of late.

Have they cracked the top 10 at any time since Urban ?

Jimbo
 
Thanks Matt,
I guess it's a out of the public eye type of thing, I haven't heard much about them of late.

Have they cracked the top 10 at any time since Urban ?

Jimbo

No they haven't. Last year's record got them in the receiving votes section of both polls. Best win outside of the bowl was a 44-6 beating of then #11 UCLA in Salt Lake City last year.
 
Didn't Miami win the 2002 BCS Rose Bowl for a national championship?

You're thinking of 2001. They beat Nebraska in the 2002 Rose Bowl for the NC.

The 2002 Fiesta Bowl NC was won by the Buckeyes, besting the Hurricanes of course. Technically this game happened in 2003, but since the season happened in '02, it's considered in the books as a 2002 national championship.
 
You're thinking of 2001. They beat Nebraska in the 2002 Rose Bowl for the NC.

The 2002 Fiesta Bowl NC was won by the Buckeyes, besting the Hurricanes of course. Technically this game happened in 2003, but since the season happened in '02, it's considered in the books as a 2002 national championship.

Yeah, it gets confusing. I can't figure out when someone means the BCS game for that season, or the BCS game played that year. I knew Miami was the NC the year before tOSU was.
 
We all know it will be GA or UF in the national title game. More then likely they will be beating tOSU again.

Georgia has a VERY good chance of playing for the national title, but not Florida.

I don't care how good Tebow is- you can't win a national title with a leaky defense.

They are the SEC's Texas Tech- flash, dazzle, exciting, points-a-minute, but give up too many points.
 
Leaky? They have the top Linebackers in the nation... They are young but leaky? Come on. There Defense is on the field more then most all schools, why? Because FLAS offense is so fast, they get on they get off, it puts more strain on the D which of course leads to the other teams wearing them down a bit more, and scoring more. But as long as FLAs offense controls the game, the Defense just has to stay firm.

FLA has been for along time a Offensive team. There Defense although often one of the best in the nation really is only there as a back up. To hold the game for the explosive offense.
 
A few things I gotta weigh in on:

A. To all those people saying "This team from conference A would do so much better in conference B," or "This team from conference C would get dominated playing in conference D," stop. You honestly have no idea how a team would do if it was moved from one conference to another. All you can do is make assumptions, and we know what they say about those who assume...

B. What's a better way of judging a football conference? Is it how many NFL products it churns out, or how it's conference champion performs against another BCS conference champion, or at worst, runner-up? The former is a better way of judging how NFL scouts perceive the talent of a conference's players, while the latter is not based off of speculation, but rather how the best team from one conference, does against the best team from another, taking into account not only the talent of the players, but also the ability of the coaches.

My personal opinion? BCS bowl records mean a lot more than how many players a conference sends to the NFL, because it reflects on the quality of the TEAMS, not the indivdual players. Saying "we sent x number of players to the NFL" is just a nice little stat to put in a media guide. It doesn't show how each team in each conference does against the competition on the actual football field.

The fact is, in the last three years, the Big East champion has prevailed in their BCS bowl. The current version of the Big East has only been together three years, and already it has equalled the BCS win total (Read: Miami's BCS win total) of the previous seven years. Try and tell me the conference hasn't made strides, or doesn't deserve an auto bid to a BCS bowl.

Another fact is that since the BCS was first formed 10 seasons ago, the ACC champion has only won once. Their champion has only beaten another BCS conference champion once. Out of ten tries. That's not a dig on the ACC. That's a cold hard fact.

And yet somehow, the ACC gets a free pass and the Big East is continuously questioned. Why is that? I'd love to hear somebody's explanation for this.

C. The SEC is the best conference in college football. Do some SEC schools play weak non-con schedules? Yes. Do most schools in all the other BCS conferences do the same? Also yes. Can another BCS conference say that thier intraconference schedule is as tough as that of the SEC? No. Believe me, any SEC champion has earned it and the trip to Miami, New Orleans or Glendale that comes with it, regardless of who they played in early September. The rest of the year more than makes up for it.

/rant
 
And yet somehow, the ACC gets a free pass and the Big East is continuously questioned. Why is that? I'd love to hear somebody's explanation for this./rant

Because those games don't matter. Judging conferences by non-championship bowls results is like judging which is the better conference in the NFL based on pre-season results. Look at how teams performed during the regular season when the games do matter, or look at the records conferences have in OOC games. I don't know which conferences that favors, and I don't care either, but to keep using bowl results as some measuring stick is stupid. Those games are like flag football games.
 
Leaky? They have the top Linebackers in the nation... They are young but leaky? Come on. There Defense is on the field more then most all schools, why? Because FLAS offense is so fast, they get on they get off, it puts more strain on the D which of course leads to the other teams wearing them down a bit more, and scoring more. But as long as FLAs offense controls the game, the Defense just has to stay firm.

FLA has been for along time a Offensive team. There Defense although often one of the best in the nation really is only there as a back up. To hold the game for the explosive offense.

Really? I'm sure tOSU would have something to say about that.

Have you heard of the little animal aka James Laurinaitis and company?!

laurinaitis.jpg
 
Because those games don't matter. Judging conferences by non-championship bowls results is like judging which is the better conference in the NFL based on pre-season results. Look at how teams performed during the regular season when the games do matter, or look at the records conferences have in OOC games. I don't know which conferences that favors, and I don't care either, but to keep using bowl results as some measuring stick is stupid. Those games are like flag football games.


It has been argued that BCS bowl games, other than the National Championship Game, are meaningless. But do you think the kids playing think the game is meaningless? To many of the seniors on either team, it's their last chance to make a big impression on some NFL scouts on a national stage. Don't think the coaches don't take it seriously either. Bill Stewart got the vacant head coaching job at WVU because he was able to help the demoralized Mountaineers to a Fiesta Bowl win. That's an extreme example, but other coaches would very much like the boost in recruiting that winning a BCS bowl can provide. Playing in a bowl game, especially a BCS bowl, is a free commercial for your program for any recruits watching. A win in a bowl game, meanwhile, is a great commercial for your program.

To call bowl games meaningless wouldn't really be true, because that implies that nobody involved is trying and that there are no positives for winning. And as a previous poster remarked before, it's also about pride. There's no pride in winning a preseason NFL game. There is pride in winning the Orange Bowl or the Sugar Bowl.
 
The problem with bowl games is that they are like a glass of water. Some teams look at it as being half full, while others view it as half empty. I can promise you that teams don't look forward to playing in the Independence Bowl. And how about all the teams whose coaches quit or get fired after the regular season? Or worse, teams like Boston College who had a great season, but get sent to a 3rd rate bowl game simply because they don't have 100,000 lunatic fans who travel the country with them. Talk about some highly motivated kids. It's no wonder that some of these teams give less than 100% in bowl games. It's crazy to then use the results of these exhibitions against teams that wind up losing.
 
The problem with bowl games is that they are like a glass of water. Some teams look at it as being half full, while others view it as half empty. I can promise you that teams don't look forward to playing in the Independence Bowl. And how about all the teams whose coaches quit or get fired after the regular season? Or worse, teams like Boston College who had a great season, but get sent to a 3rd rate bowl game simply because they don't have 100,000 lunatic fans who travel the country with them. Talk about some highly motivated kids. It's no wonder that some of these teams give less than 100% in bowl games. It's crazy to then use the results of these exhibitions against teams that wind up losing.

Did Boston College win thier 3rd rate bowl game ?

They better had, seeing they were so much better than the team they were playing.

Oh yes, they barely squeaked by MSU 24-21, why would BC feel they are so much better than the team they are playing ?

Jimbo
 
The results don't matter win or lose. BC should have never had to play such unworthy opponent. How about BYU who won the Mountain West, which besides not being a BCS conference, got them the "honor" of playing a 6-6 UCLA team that was so proud of its season that they fired their coach. Or Arizona St who was denied a berth in the Fiesta Bowl simply because they committed the offense of being from the Phoenix area. There's no integrity in the bowl system due to all the politics so it's unfair to blame teams and conferences for poor results if teams are less than thrilled with their bowl assignments.
 

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