Its Not Just Dish...

[mike123abc]

Well there are now radio ads in my area about TWC dropping the Disney channels. They urge you to call a number to hear about alternatives to TWC. I wonder if they will refer people to Dish or just DIRECTV?

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Well there are now radio ads in my area about TWC dropping the Disney channels. They urge you to call a number to hear about alternatives to TWC. I wonder if they will refer people to Dish or just DIRECTV?

Call and see.

 

[priester68]

So what about Dish not giving into this deal at all and just knocking our bill down to compensate us. I can totally live without ESPN and Disney but I know lots of people would flip out during football season if they can't watch games and updates 24/7.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

So what about Dish not giving into this deal at all and just knocking our bill down to compensate us. I can totally live without ESPN and Disney but I know lots of people would flip out during football season if they can't watch games and updates 24/7.

Well most Die hard football fans don't have Dish Network. So I don't think it will matter.

 

[priester68]

Good Point

 

[dishcomm]

Now first off please understand I am not defending Dish on some of their receient programming changes...

I am posting this to show that the issues are not just limited to DISH.

Looks like in Southern California viewers will lose all DISNEY owned channels including ESPN.

Time Warner has launched a website explaining its view of things... Home | Roll Over or Get Tough

And Disney has responded with their own website I Have Choices - As fans of ESPN and ABC, you should know the facts

I do agree with Time Warner and am starting to wonder how much is too much. I know for myself I had to cut back my services and downgrade my programming package as it was getting too damn expensive...

Disney claims the cost of prgramming makes up 30% of TW's total operating cost.
Is this true?

 

[dishcomm]

I still say the retransmiters (Dish, Direct, Comcast, Time Warner, etc.) should come together for the purposes of negotiating new retransmission contracts. If they did this and no agreement was reached and the broadcaster pulled their programming, they would effectively be shutting themselves completely down. It's unlikely they would do this. As long as the broadcasters can target one retransmitter at a time, this nonsense will continue.

interesting theory.
That would be unlawful collusion and probably violate anti-trust regs and some other stuff.
Corporations are not permitted( far as I know) to act in concert to the detriment of another company..
Of course the theory you present would be the ultimate "taking one for the consumer" act. In other words, a bunch of big compnanies loking after their customers despite the damge that could come to those companies.

 

[dishcomm]

You must not have Kids. My kids have been bugging me from day 1.

About HD?..Your kids either have dicriminating tastes. Most kids could not care less or even tell the difference between SD and HD.....That is unless of course they are being influenced by those older than them..

 

[dishcomm]

besides, its summer ...send them outside to play

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[Bobby]

Well most Die hard football fans don't have Dish Network. So I don't think it will matter.

I'm a die hard football fan, but not especially a die hard pro football fan. I have everything I want in football, including Red Zone and all the college football I can handle with Dish. You continue to rag on about how great Direct is and the only difference is Season Ticket..... I think you give ST too much credit in the die hard fanbase. Of course you continually skew things to make Direct looks so wonderful without much credence.

 

[dishcomm]

Yes, you're correct, unions definitely have monopoly power but the law has granted them that right. The economic rationale is debatable (I knew a guy in graduate school who wrote a series of papers on why unions shouldn't be allowed monopoly power any more than corporations should) but it is ingrained in our society, presumably because of the history of abuses of labor by corporations (even conservatives acknowledge that much).

It's illegal. Corporations cannot act in concert with one another to the detriment of a competitor.
Fortunately labor organizations are on their way out.
To date only 7% of the private sector workforce is unionized.

 

[navychop]

But they're growing in the government sector.

 

[dishcomm]

Well most Die hard football fans don't have Dish Network. So I don't think it will matter.

NCAA Hoops and Football fans...Millions of them. Yes the NFL is king.
But NCAA football and hoops are huge...And ESPN carries a huge menu of those events.

 

[rapidturtle]

Die hard football fan here also, and I have been happy with the NFL network, Redzone, and my regional coverage, with Dish. One of the reasons that I went with dish was for the NFL network. Cablevision doesn't offer NFL network, and the Sunday ticket with Direct was getting way to expensive.
The larger percentage of people follow their hometown team, so they get to watch them on Sunday's, and don't really need the Sunday ticket.

 

[harshness]

It's not a monopoly. Monopoly is when only (1) entity provides a product or service and has 100% control.

Disney is as close as anyone to a monopoly. There's an oligopoly brewing among the content providers and the negotiations are only going to get broader. The Comcast deal alone may glob four into one.

 

[Slamminc11]

Well most Die hard football fans don't have Dish Network. So I don't think it will matter.

BULLSH*T!

 

[bforce]

I'm a die hard football fan, but not especially a die hard pro football fan. I have everything I want in football, including Red Zone and all the college football I can handle with Dish. You continue to rag on about how great Direct is and the only difference is Season Ticket..... I think you give ST too much credit in the die hard fanbase. Of course you continually skew things to make Direct looks so wonderful without much credence.

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I'm a huge football fan but I could care less for ST (or it's enormous price). Dish is fine with me.
I'm upset with Disney being pulled but this is going to become more and more common across ALL the providers. They need to settle these disputes by arbitration while continuing to show the content.
Right now, only the FCC could step in and force this.

 

[rapidturtle]

It's illegal. Corporations cannot act in concert with one another to the detriment of a competitor.
Fortunately labor organizations are on their way out.
To date only 7% of the private sector workforce is unionized.

UNFORTUNATELY labor organiztions are on their way out.:rant:

 

[navychop]

Yep. The greatest labor union success story is the maritime unions. GREAT pay and conditions. If you can find a job. Or an American flag ship. Which exist only by laws requiring certain items to be shipped on American flag ships under certain conditions. Absolutely not competitive otherwise, and haven't been for decades.

OH - and how about Detroit?

Well, I'll shut up now, or this will be closed and sent to Sonicbabble.

But the fact remains, all satcos and cablecos will have, and do have, disputes. Dish finds it in their interest to be more public with their dirty laundry. I don't know why. But I'm inclined to think, if they didn't, our bills would be higher still!

 

[jrp]

True… and true. Nicely stated on all counts.