MLS is about to take over the NHL in average attendance

If one was selling tickets for a fraction of the price and a fraction of the games, one would expect that one to do a little better

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Not only that, what if some or all of the top hockey markets that are currently at or above capacity could magically increase the number of seats in their arenas?? I'm sure that would increase the number of tickets sold, and at least would put them closer to capacity with the MLS teams that play at larger stadiums. Then you would be talking about an apples-to-apples comparison...
 
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Not only that, what if some or all of the top hockey markets that are currently at or above capacity could magically increase the number of seats in their arenas?? I'm sure that would increase the number of tickets sold, and at least would put them closer to capacity with the MLS teams that play at larger stadiums. Then you would be talking about an apples-to-apples comparison...

Good point. Hockey is often sold-out, whereas soccer is usually a fraction of capacity. Although the Home Depot Center is small

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If one was selling tickets for a fraction of the price and a fraction of the games, one would expect that one to do a little better

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I can agree with that. Can you agree then that one of reasons baseball has lost some luster is for the same reasons?
 
Here is a genius statement from Ms. Ortiz that salsadancer quoted on the first page:

Meanwhile, the NHL experienced a 66 percent decrease in average attendance with 20 of the league’s 30 teams posting lower attendance numbers in 2009-10 than 2008-09.

That's the quote verbatim. Makes it sound like the league is down 66 percent in overall attendance, right? But, of course, it's not.

This is how you manipulate things to prove your agenda.


Sandra
 
I can agree with that. Can you agree then that one of reasons baseball has lost some luster is for the same reasons?
High ticket prices and lots of games? Yes.

Reduce the number of games during the season and lower the ticket prices and attendance will increase. Although I do believe average MLB attendance has gone up each generation
 
Here is a genius statement from Ms. Ortiz that salsadancer quoted on the first page:



That's the quote verbatim. Makes it sound like the league is down 66 percent in overall attendance, right? But, of course, it's not.

This is how you manipulate things to prove your agenda.


Sandra

Please list a link/s that states otherwise. I mean it's easy to disagree or agree when it's your opinion, but if you are stating this as fact, please provide a source or sources stating otherwise.
 
Here is a genius statement from Ms. Ortiz that salsadancer quoted on the first page:



That's the quote verbatim. Makes it sound like the league is down 66 percent in overall attendance, right? But, of course, it's not.

This is how you manipulate things to prove your agenda.


Sandra
That was the way I read it as well. After you pointed it out, what the 66% really means is that 66% of the teams have decreased in their average attendance. The key thing, what she failed to mention, is how much of a decrease did these 20 teams experience? Is this decrease more significant than the increase in attendance of some of the remaining 10 teams? The NHL can still have a decrease in attendance of 66% of their teams and still have an increase in overall attendance league wide
 
Please list a link/s that states otherwise. I mean it's easy to disagree or agree when it's your opinion, but if you are stating this as fact, please provide a source or sources stating otherwise.

The NHL is not down 2/3 in attendance from last year. That's just a stupid statement.


Sandra
 
That was the way I read it as well. After you pointed it out, what the 66% really means is that 66% of the teams have decreased in their average attendance. The key thing, what she failed to mention, is how much of a decrease did these 20 teams experience? Is this decrease more significant than the increase in attendance of some of the remaining 10 teams? The NHL can still have a decrease in attendance of 66% of their teams and still have an increase in overall attendance league wide

Exactly. She manipulated the quote to fit her agenda. Pretty sad, actually. :rolleyes:


Sandra
 
AGAIN, you are saying it's stupid and untrue....post some information stating other wise....

If you think the NHL had 1/3 the attendance this year that they had last year...well, that's not worth arguing. Good luck with that one.

Dodger King put it correctly. Read his post to edify yourself.


Sandra
 
Good then you realize the NHL was not down 66% in overall attendance from last year, as Ms. Ortiz stated. Glad we cleared that up.


Sandra

Maybe she mistated and ment to say, as I read, the attendance was down in 66% of the league. WHY do you assume there is an "agenda"?
 
Here is another stupid quote from Ms. Ortiz that show how she manipulates data to further her agenda:

With regard to ratings, MLS also is making a surge. The league’s televised 2011 opener between the Galaxy and Sounders on ESPN was up 129 percent in ratings and 112 percent in viewership, drawing 604,000 English-language viewers. The game’s Spanish-language broadcast on ESPN Deportes drew another 79,000 viewers, an increase of 84 percent from a year ago.

Those TV viewer numbers rival – or surpass – those of almost every nationally televised NHL game this year on Versus. And no league can come close to boasting that kind of jump in viewership.


Goodness gracious, this is like reading newspapers in Cuba or North Korea, where they only tell you what they want you to know. :rolleyes:


Sandra
 

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