12 ft Paraclipse Classic Polar T Antenna

[FaT Air]

Check here. http://www.gofastmotorsports.com/apc1.htm There is someone who's just got one but said there was quite a bit of loss. Think they cured that with changing out the supplied splitter with a power inserter. (or vice-versa or maybe something else)
?The thread was in the last month or 2(???)I'll look for it.

 

[SatelliteAV]

Thanks FaT Air for the information. Yes the polarator controller would be a great buy, if anyone made it for sale. I spent most of my life in electronics, and it would be a fairly simple project, but would prefer to purchase a solution, rather than start up another home-brew project at this time.

FYI... Combined heavy duty motor controller with automatic polarotor control will be available for sale before Christmas. ASC1 @ www.titaniumsatellite.com

Website is under development, but more information should be posted in the next few weeks.

 

[madmadworld]

FYI... Combined heavy duty motor controller with automatic polarotor control will be available for sale before Christmas. ASC1 @ www.titaniumsatellite.com

Website is under development, but more information should be posted in the next few weeks.

bases covered cool

 

[wen]

FaT Air: Interesting reading. A low loss switch should be available to switch all 4 lnb's, but the whole arrangement is large and not very cheap. Guess Invacom perfected packaging 4 lnb's in a small package and left the switching to you.

 

[wen]

FYI... Combined heavy duty motor controller with automatic polarotor control will be available for sale before Christmas. ASC1 @ www.titaniumsatellite.com

Website is under development, but more information should be posted in the next few weeks.

That looks like exactly what I was looking for! The ASC-1 certainly looks promising! Will watch the development closely.

Interesting that the c-band only pll LNBF is configured so that you cannot combine it with a decent Ku band LNBF, or did I miss something? Hope there is a wave-guide flanged model.

 

[madmadworld]

FaT Air: Interesting reading. A low loss switch should be available to switch all 4 lnb's, but the whole arrangement is large and not very cheap. Guess Invacom perfected packaging 4 lnb's in a small package and left the switching to you.

what Invacom lnb are you speaking of ?
thanks

 

[wen]

what Invacom lnb are you speaking of ?
thanks

The QPF-031 or the QPH-031 were popular Ku band dss lnbs with each lnb containing two linear and two circular polarized lnbf devices. Clever design shows what could be done to simplify antenna feed arrangements.

 

[SatelliteAV]

The QPF-031 or the QPH-031 were popular Ku band dss lnbs with each lnb containing two linear and two circular polarized lnbf devices. Clever design shows what could be done to simplify antenna feed arrangements.

Hmmm.... wonder where that design came from? LOL!!

 

[mmewrench]

FYI... Combined heavy duty motor controller with automatic polarotor control will be available for sale before Christmas. ASC1 @ www.titaniumsatellite.com

Website is under development, but more information should be posted in the next few weeks.

Will you be handling this item?

 

[SatelliteAV]

Titanium Satellite is currently building the distribution and reseller network. I expect this to be a very popular item sold by most resellers.

 

[wen]

Will Dish hit ground with factory mount?

I bought the 3 1/2 inch 8 ft pole yesterday and plan to set it so cement is 3 1/2 inches above ground. Is this high enough to keep the 12 ft Paraclipse from hitting the ground when all the way to the side with the actuator removed?

 

[madmadworld]

where you live state will do ?
as a general rule 3.5 to 4 feet below ground. and at 12' you might want 6' above ground,so your about 2 feet short.

make sure you weld or drill and add something to the in ground part of the pole to keep it from spinning. i've used a couple of muffler clamps with re bar to do it.
good luck

 

[Mauiguy]

I bought the 3 1/2 inch 8 ft pole yesterday and plan to set it so cement is 3 1/2 inches above ground. Is this high enough to keep the 12 ft Paraclipse from hitting the ground when all the way to the side with the actuator removed?

The polar mount with the long pole on which is comes is adequate to keep the dish edge from hitting the ground providing that you are on level ground. If on the side of a hill care must be taken to ensure that the dish does not have a chance to contact the earth. Paraclypse recommended a pole of about three feet or so above ground because of the tightening/alignment bolts located at the bottom end of the mount. Anything over that is only going to be inside of the mount. If you wish you could have six feet six inches of pole above ground and that would keep the edge of the dish even higher, but also raise the level of the feed horn for when you are working on it.

 

[Mauiguy]

I bought the 3 1/2 inch 8 ft pole yesterday and plan to set it so cement is 3 1/2 inches above ground. Is this high enough to keep the 12 ft Paraclipse from hitting the ground when all the way to the side with the actuator removed?

The polar mount with the long pole on which is comes is adequate to keep the dish edge from hitting the ground providing that you are on level ground. If on the side of a hill care must be taken to ensure that the dish does not have a chance to contact the earth. Paraclypse recommended a pole of about three feet or so above ground because of the tightening/alignment bolts located at the bottom end of the mount. Anything over that is only going to be inside of the mount. If you wish you could have six feet six inches of pole above ground and that would keep the edge of the dish even higher, but also raise the level of the feed horn for when you are working on it.

?I do hope that you meant that you wanted three and a half feet above ground in your post.

 

[wen]

The polar mount with the long pole on which is comes is adequate to keep the dish edge from hitting the ground providing that you are on level ground. If on the side of a hill care must be taken to ensure that the dish does not have a chance to contact the earth. Paraclypse recommended a pole of about three feet or so above ground because of the tightening/alignment bolts located at the bottom end of the mount. Anything over that is only going to be inside of the mount. If you wish you could have six feet six inches of pole above ground and that would keep the edge of the dish even higher, but also raise the level of the feed horn for when you are working on it.

?I do hope that you meant that you wanted three and a half feet above ground in your post.

Hi madmadworld and Mauiguy. Thanks so much for the reply.

My lattitude is 32 degrees N, so the polar mount leans back approx (90-32)=58 degrees. The Paraclipse is not dependent on the length of pipe since it uses a Square tubing mount that (slips over the ground pipe) is 60 inches long and the dimension from the concrete to the center of the polar mount is approx 67 inches. The dish measures 145 inches on the face of the ribs and is 30 inches deep from the rear of the dish (polar mount face) to the front of the dish. I had planned to raise the cement base 3 1/2 inches with a 24 inch square base and weld a piece of angle iron to the pole so it won't turn. I hope that is enough to clear the antenna when tipped over to work on the LNB assembly. Wanted to find out for sure before I pour the concrete!

I will be on level ground and "hope" to be able to dig the hole 42 inches deep and leave the pole sticking out of the ground 54 inches. The ground is hard and rocky, so not sure what I am getting into. I had to use a pole setting truck to dig the fenceposts around the yard, but would rather not spend $500 to dig a hole for the antenna! Looks like up to 60 inches of the ground pole will go into the Paraclipse square tubing mount.

I am going to measure the old "Comscope" flat cable to see if it is long enough to reach the dish, but have concern about the coax cables in it since it was first installed 28 years ago and stored in a barn for the last 20 years!!! Maybe somebody still sells polarator cable and motor cable with sensor shielded cable. I would rather have separate cables than the big flat cable that doesn't like pulling through a conduit! Then I can run new RG6 coaxes to the dish. Need to find a mail order source for it.

 

[Babadem]

The 12ft Paraclipse Classic button hook manual is now available in the download section. Thanks to Ke4est for his diligence and great job!

 

[pdiddy]

installing your post and conduit

I have a ten foot dish I dug a hole 5ft deep and welded cross supports to the pipe below ground level for added support,they don"t have to be pretty you will never see them once you pour concrete.Don"t just drop the pipe in the ground and pour concrete.I then strapped a one inch electrical condit to the mast and stubbed it out of the hole,after you pour the concrete and set the post and dig your trench for your coax,you than have a "tunnel for your coax" that looks nice.I don't know how to post the picture from my "smart" phone to show you.Take pride in your installation,post a picture when your through.Good luck ps I used an 8ft digging bar and a digging set for digging telephone poles by hand to dig the 5ft deep hole,as you are aware once you get down about 30 inches it becomes very hard to get the dirt out of the hole.

 

[Magic Static]

I have a ten foot dish I dug a hole 5ft deep and welded cross supports to the pipe below ground level for added support,they don"t have to be pretty you will never see them once you pour concrete.Don"t just drop the pipe in the ground and pour concrete.I then strapped a one inch electrical condit to the mast and stubbed it out of the hole,after you pour the concrete and set the post and dig your trench for your coax,you than have a "tunnel for your coax" that looks nice.I don't know how to post the picture from my "smart" phone to show you.Take pride in your installation,post a picture when your through.Good luck ps I used an 8ft digging bar and a digging set for digging telephone poles by hand to dig the 5ft deep hole,as you are aware once you get down about 30 inches it becomes very hard to get the dirt out of the hole.

to SatelliteGuys G. Glad to see you on the forum finally

 

[wen]

Update of 16 ft Paraclipse dish Installation



Couldn't dig a hole 5 ft deep!!!!! Used tractor augar to dig to solid rock at 3 ft, used 70# jackhammer and it just jumped up and down on the solid granite rock!!!! Enlarged hole significantly at bottom, welded piece of angle iron to pipe, cut off six inches so had 4.5 feet sticking out of ground, and poured concrete! Took 3 of us to set the dish up and bolt it in place after it was fully assembled.

Had to make about 100 of the U clips out of aluminum welding wire. Still have the last small panel to install and a few more U clips to tie the last two panels together. This photo was taken with the antenna on the ground and facing NW without LNB. Had to borrow my wife's iPad to photograph the satellite arc superimposed on the dish at its final location.

Hopefully a few more days, the system should be working.

Looks like Intelsat 903 will be my East satellite at the tree line with an Orbital Position of -34.5 degrees and a Elevation of 13.5 degrees. Completely clear to the horizon to the West.

 

[primestar31]

What! No mention of dynamite? After all that dedication, I'm amazed you didn't think of blowing things up.

I'm disapointed, young man! LOL.