Yeah I use 2 TV's, but I use TV2 out SDTVHow many TVs are you hooked up to with that, 3? Currently I believe you are paying $10 for the DVR and $10 for the 612 as a secondary receiver for a total of $10. If you went to a Hopper 3 with two Joeys it would be $15 for the DVR and $7 for each Joey for a total of $29.