Really close to do it...considering move from DTV to Dish

[primetimeguy]

I am scheduled to get Dish at the new house on Friday. D* is fine, but it ain't all that


I think it is pretty well established that almost everyone is doing some kind of HD Lite. Some do it via horizontal resolution reductions, like Dish, Uverse, and DirecTV. Others do it by bit-starving the stream or turning up the compression to the point it really impacts the PQ. Some do multiple methods. It used to be that FiOS and Google Fiber TV didn't do these things, but I don't even know if that is true any more.

I wonder if IcEWoLF is referring to compression artifacts in reference to "pixelation." Depending on the who reported it, they might not know the difference.

Yep, all you have to do is compare OTA locals with dish locals to see how Lite the dish HD is.

 

[primetimeguy]

Ah I'm a blind man, I thought it was for the next two seasons, wrong I am lol.

But yeah I'd like to make sure I don't get any pixelation when watching soccer and even ESPN when they broadcast nba and Monday night football. I just want to make sure I am not stuck with really crappy picture quality if you know what I mean.
Bein sports and fox sports 1 and 2 are a must for me.

That will be up to your TV, viewing distance, eyes and what you can tolerate. I see pixelation from over compression on all dish channels. It is just the state of where we are today, PQ doesn't drive sales and our tvs just get bigger and bigger showing the issues.

 

[ncted]

Yep, all you have to do is compare OTA locals with dish locals to see how Lite the dish HD is.

It isn't just Dish. When I went form my OTA Roamio to DirecTV a year ago, the difference was noticeable to me.

 

[primetimeguy]

It isn't just Dish. When I went form my OTA Roamio to DirecTV a year ago, the difference was noticeable to me.

Agree, all cable and satellite is that way, just differing degrees of bad.

 

[HipKat]

My only complaint about them is their tendency to lose contact with the WJAP after nightly updates. Usually happens two to three times a week. I have to reboot WJAP and WJ to fix. They are both in the same room, just on opposite walls, so distance is not a factor, IMO. The only thing I can think of is my WJAP is funky. Dish will not replace them.

I've had mine almost a year now, opposite sides of the house, never an issue, but I have a WAP 2, which in my opinion performs better than the original WAP

 

[charlesrshell]

I've had mine almost a year now, opposite sides of the house, never an issue, but I have a WAP 2, which in my opinion performs better than the original WAP

How can you tell the difference between WAP 1 and WAP 2?

 

[HipKat]

How can you tell the difference between WAP 1 and WAP 2?

Wap 1 is thicker amd resembles a WiFI Joey, a bit. WAP 2 is thinner, sleek looking and more resembles the Hopper 3 look

This is a side view of a WAP 2

This is a WAP 1

 

[charlesrshell]

Wap 1 is thicker amd resembles a WiFI Joey, a bit. WAP 2 is thinner, sleek looking and more resembles the Hopper 3 look

This is a side view of a WAP 2

This is a WAP 1

WOW, thanks. Love the hot red racing pen stripe. I got to have have one!

 

[HipKat]

WOW, thanks. Love the hot red racing pen stripe. I got to have have one!

When they first came out, a lot of us in my office agreed originally connecting to it was faster and range seemed better than the WAP 1

 

[charlesrshell]

When they first came out, a lot of us in my office agreed originally connecting to it was faster and range seemed better than the WAP 1

Thanks for the info.

 

[HipKat]

Thanks for the info.

No problem. I should add that with a WAP 1, there were a good number of times at install x we'd have to setup/download the joey right next to the WAP 1 and then relocate the Joey to the room it was going to. I've never had to do that with a WAP 2

 

[camo]

Anyone with Dish and misses not having Sunday Ticket for out of market games you can get NFL Gamepass for fraction of ST price and stream in HD all out of market NFL games at conclusion of 4pm ET games.
Something I'm trying this year because my team is out of market. I'll probably watch first on Redzone because team plays most games in 4pm slot where you get more viewing with less games on the late timeslot. Redzone was really all I needed last year but decided to have option of watching full games this year.

 

[KAB]

I've had mine almost a year now, opposite sides of the house, never an issue, but I have a WAP 2, which in my opinion performs better than the original WAP

Mine is a WAP2. Like I said earlier, Dish won't replace.

 

[ncted]

Given the number of wireless networks around me, most of which are 5 GHz, I definitely prefer the wired route. I just hope the installer is ok with my ethernet-connected Joey plan. If not, he can connect that one in another room and I will move it to where I want it later.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Given the number of wireless networks around me, most of which are 5 GHz, I definitely prefer the wired route. I just hope the installer is ok with my ethernet-connected Joey plan. If not, he can connect that one in another room and I will move it to where I want it later.

None of the people living near me are smart enough to figure out how to use 5G, so I'm lucky enough to be the only one using it. Everybody else is stuck with a cluttered up 2.4G cluster-fck

 

[ncted]

None of the people living near me are smart enough to figure out how to use 5G, so I'm lucky enough to be the only one using it. Everybody else is stuck with a cluttered up 2.4G cluster-fck

AT&T Fiber has come through and given everyone RG's that apparently come with a quite good 5GHz radio, and it is on by default. Although, now as I check again, it isn't as bad as I had thought. Still, I am not really interested in clogging up the airwaves unnecessarily.

 

[comfortably_numb]

AT&T Fiber has come through and given everyone RG's that apparently come with a quite good 5GHz radio, and it is on by default. Although, now as I check again, it isn't as bad as I had thought. Still, I am not really interested in clogging up the airwaves unnecessarily.

It helps that there are something like 155 channels available for 5G, versus the 11 on 2.4

 

[ncted]

It helps that there are something like 155 channels available for 5G, versus the 11 on 2.4

Assuming 20 or 40 MHz channels. The default on the AT&T RG is 80 MHz. I see at least one person running on a 160 MHz channel. Still, should be plenty to go around.

 

[ncted]

Assuming 20 or 40 MHz channels. The default on the AT&T RG is 80 MHz. I see at least one person running on a 160 MHz channel. Still, should be plenty to go around.

Looks like I am getting a wireless joey after all. Ah well.

Edit: Dish wanted to charge me $80 for the wireless Joey, which is criminal, so I told the installer to just install the original order of 2 Joey 2.0s, and I would handle the rest. While he was setting up the second one, I moved the first one to the kitchen where I connected it to my gigabit home network. Works great. In fact, it seems to work better than the coax-connected Joey. It feels snappier anyway.

 

[IcEWoLF]

Wap 1 is thicker amd resembles a WiFI Joey, a bit. WAP 2 is thinner, sleek looking and more resembles the Hopper 3 look

This is a side view of a WAP 2

This is a WAP 1

So a WAP is required to run a wireless joey 4K?