2 years and..........

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its been 2 years sine the hs17 was released
its time for something newer, something to actually compete with the hopper3

att is lagging
 
its been 2 years sine the hs17 was released
its time for something newer, something to actually compete with the hopper3

att is lagging

IMHO, I don't think most people are looking for AT&T to compete with Dish's tech, or to put it another way - match what they have.

Today, I think today's AT&T is competing more with the way it used to be - people are pining for the old days - before AT&T. They would rather have DirecTV back and the way they did business then than the 'new' AT&T's way of doing business today.

I'm not interested in how the Hopper works - I just want my HR54 and it's clients to always work well by giving me the best picture and sound quality possible by passing through the original signal from the source. That's all I want from TV.

When there is an issue, I want to be able to talk to a CSR that understands me and can fix the issue quickly.

There is a long list of changes I wish AT&T would unwind - that would be a thousand times better than them making an AT&T version of a Hopper.

Anyway - this is why I went with D* years ago - and I want it back.......

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maybe, but a hard limit on 7 tuners is just not enough for some people.
i would love to see them revert to receivers/dvrs and allow a genie like they used to
but that receiver/dvr would need to output 4k
 
Aint going to happen.. They have no reason to compete with Dish If you want 16 tuners switch to Dish
 
They have no reason to compete with their only rival? They absolutely need to compete with Dish. 90% of their advertising over the last 25 years has been against Dish. One commercial after another has them directly comparing themselves against Dish. It's just that DirecTV is gone and ATT is a phone company. Either compete or give up or merge.
 
They have no reason to compete with their only rival? They absolutely need to compete with Dish. 90% of their advertising over the last 25 years has been against Dish. One commercial after another has them directly comparing themselves against Dish. It's just that DirecTV is gone and ATT is a phone company. Either compete or give up or merge.

The percentage of customers who need more than 7 tuners is very small (and they can be handled via HRx4 and HR2x) Maybe AT&T believes it isn't worth the investment to serve such a small market segment, even if they are more lucrative.

Directv is never going to release a DVR with more than 7 usable tuners - the HS17 has 16 but doesn't expose them all for reasons we are all familiar with. The way to support more would be to allow more than one HS17 on an account. Maybe they will do that someday, maybe not.

The idea that because Dish offers something Directv must to "compete" is ridiculous. If Ford offered an version of the Explorer with bulletproof glass to consumers paranoid about all the shootings would Chevy and GM have to match that offering with their SUVs? Or would Ford serving a small segment of the market not bother them?

I don't think they have a need to offer a follow on to the HS17 until there are some real 4K channels and the limit of two 4K TVs at once becomes an issue. We know there have been an HS27 and HS37 planned at some point, but may have been pushed back or canceled due to the slow adoption of 4K by broadcasters.
 
The percentage of customers who need more than 7 tuners is very small (and they can be handled via HRx4 and HR2x) Maybe AT&T believes it isn't worth the investment to serve such a small market segment, even if they are more lucrative.

Directv is never going to release a DVR with more than 7 usable tuners - the HS17 has 16 but doesn't expose them all for reasons we are all familiar with. The way to support more would be to allow more than one HS17 on an account. Maybe they will do that someday, maybe not.

The idea that because Dish offers something Directv must to "compete" is ridiculous. If Ford offered an version of the Explorer with bulletproof glass to consumers paranoid about all the shootings would Chevy and GM have to match that offering with their SUVs? Or would Ford serving a small segment of the market not bother them?

I don't think they have a need to offer a follow on to the HS17 until there are some real 4K channels and the limit of two 4K TVs at once becomes an issue.

its very difficult to get an hr54/nr24 setup
directv wants the hs17 installed

look at history
dish brings out the hopper with 3 tuners
directv countered with the genie and 5 tuners

4k tvs are selling much faster than hd tvs did, heck for anything over 40inch i dont know if you can even find anything other than 4k

anyway, its been 2 years, something should be coming out
where is that fabled 4k wireless mini?
where is the hs27 thats been alluded to in documents?
 
its very difficult to get an hr54/nr24 setup
directv wants the hs17 installed

look at history
dish brings out the hopper with 3 tuners
directv countered with the genie and 5 tuners

4k tvs are selling much faster than hd tvs did, heck for anything over 40inch i dont know if you can even find anything other than 4k

anyway, its been 2 years, something should be coming out
where is that fabled 4k wireless mini?
where is the hs27 thats been alluded to in documents?
It was 5 years before the HS17 came out after the HR44 Not sure where this 2 year timeline has come from
The HS27 Document doesnt exist anymore The C71k changed from there original intention

If you are expecting ATT to innovate on hardware it isnt going to happen.. Look at other options

The History you speak of was a decade ago when Dish was there primary competitor.. While not in a rush they want to move away from Satellites at some point in the next decade. There targets now are the Comcast and moving towards streaming boxes

Just because every TV is 4K now means nothing. Until there is full time/real time content, no one is going to reshape there hardware for it
 
They have no reason to compete with their only rival? They absolutely need to compete with Dish. 90% of their advertising over the last 25 years has been against Dish. One commercial after another has them directly comparing themselves against Dish. It's just that DirecTV is gone and ATT is a phone company. Either compete or give up or merge.
They are not there only rival..
 
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ATT will gladly let that 15% go to take market share from everyone else

Maybe so, but with all the ‘new’ subscription types and prices, it isn’t looking to me like they have a clue how to gain market share. Losing market share is more likely.


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Maybe so, but with all the ‘new’ subscription types and prices, it isn’t looking to me like they have a clue how to gain market share. Losing market share is more likely.


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Oh i agree but that wasnt my point
 
its very difficult to get an hr54/nr24 setup
directv wants the hs17 installed

look at history
dish brings out the hopper with 3 tuners
directv countered with the genie and 5 tuners

4k tvs are selling much faster than hd tvs did, heck for anything over 40inch i dont know if you can even find anything other than 4k

anyway, its been 2 years, something should be coming out
where is that fabled 4k wireless mini?
where is the hs27 thats been alluded to in documents?
Of course 4k TV's are selling much better ... you can't barely find a Non 4k TV ...
 
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compete with 1 company for that 15%
or 100000000 companies for the rest (cable, cord cutting, streaming, ect ect
I get it is hard to accept but it isnt going to happen If you want Hopper style technology then switch to Dish
 
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