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4K will pretty much only be available through IPTV or streaming systems, so I think this is more future-proofing the Joey for the inevitable IPTV move and to get 4K content now from partners like Netflix.

That's all dependent on your Internet connection. I have a 30/5 connection and HD tv episodes start on my Roku within 5-10 seconds. Never buffers. I've had the exact same Roku XD for about a year and a half. Great little machine. If it had Disney content. I could drop Dish.

Does anyone else find the irony in Dish giving out Rokus so that subs can watch AMC shows, while using the argument that AMC's distribution on Amazon, Netflix, and iTunes is diluting the value of the channel? These idiots are basically showing that they own a bottled water company that uses the...

Have you ever even watched any of AMC's original programming? It all rivals HBO, and they have the Emmys to show for it. This plus the Hopper upgrade debacle has me saying bye-bye to Dish once I clear out my DVR.

I don't think you've been reading the OP's comments, then. I am in the exact same situation, except I have "only" been a customer for 5 years. Always been on Auto-Pay never asked for any discounts, fantastic credit, etc. The only discounts provided to me have been at the prompting of a csr...

Here's a website with some really good videos, too. Now you, too, can be more educated than Dish CSRs or installers in under an hour: Hopper and Joey by Dish Network

I've been reading about people saying that you can't have a VIP receiver with the Hopper system. What does that mean for people who have the Tailgater system and activate a VIP 211k for 3 months a year?

I bought the 211 off of Amazon to go with our Tailgater. It's owned, not leased.

Great question! My letter only said 6 months.

That argument doesn't hold water for me, either. I am a customer who signed up under a plan that they offered. They took that plan away and, without my request (or approval) provided me with credits to make up for doubling my monthly fee. Those credits ran for 6 months, I think, so I lost those...

Well, that's not a way to do business. I received a credit for an installer who didn't show up 3 years ago and last summer for spending over 2 hours on the phone trying to get a new 211 activated on the account. How can credits for their screw-ups make me ineligible for an upgrade? By the time...

It would be helpful if they would share some of this information, but from my standpoint it can't be a credit issue. We have over $100,000 in unused credit lines, and my credit score is fantastic. If I was declined due to a credit score, DISH would be obligated to provide me with a letter saying...

But my wife with a different last name can :)

I'm running into a similar problem with the DIRT team, except I'm out of contract. I've been on Auto-Pay the whole time, so it's not like I've missed a payment.

You can enable/disable them at any time. And then you can sell the hardware when the next generation comes out or when you cancel DISH. It's the same monthly fee, though.

It's for the 1H/2J system.

It's ridiculous. I'm just going to cancel my account and re-sign, costing Dish a helluva lot more money. I'm out of contract.

That seems pretty silly. What about for customers like me with a 211 & a Tailgater that is only used a few months a year? Not that it matters much, this out-of-contact customer with Auto-Pay was told that the system would cost $415.

So today I read all about the new Hopper system and decided to contact the DIRT team after seeing everyone getting the system for the new sub price of $99. I would be replacing a 722 and 211k with DVR. I've been a customer on Auto-Pay and paperless billing since I started in 2007. Started with...

Hi DIRT folks - Please PM me for assistance when possible. No rush.

I just wanted to jump in and throw in my $0.02 on how AWESOME the Tailgater is. We have been fighting with a 1000.4 satellite for 2 years at our tailgate in Columbia, SC and finally gave up trying to point it each week after having no luck last weekend. This past Monday we ordered the Tailgater...

Weird, everything I've always read says that you have to have a cable package to access it. Here is the error message I receive when I try to access it from my RoadRunner account.

Brighthouse/Time Warner Cable require you to have their internet and a cable package including ESPN in order to get access to ESPN3.

No, I chose my words poorly, sorry. I added the DISH Sling Adapter to my 722 and also added the DVR functionality to my 211k. $180 investment just to DISH.

What level do you have to have to get the EPIX channels? Those are the two I actually watch on a regular basis. I don't care about Starz since it's all available through Netflix Instant.