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The show is supposed to start at 11:30 am. Yeah right. We'll believe that when we see it. Until then, Sony is offering us refreshments...of Bloody Mary's and Smirnoff.


Uh, Microsoft didn't have liquor and neither did Nintendo. We're not ones to pass up free booze here at Game|Life, but sheesh, hard liquor before noon? You gotta wonder what horrible news Sony will announce that can only be softened by a splashdown in a sea of alcohol.


11:15 AM- It's smaller and more intimate than last year. And they're all much quieter and more subdued. Iwata and Moore and Fils-Aime are pausing on applause lines as if they're expecting huge cheers...and they're getting a smattering of applause. And not just when they're announcing something underwhelming, they're not quite ready for something so scaled back.

And we're off! Hit the jump to read more about the train wreck.



11:30 -- The Sony press conference is scheduled to start right now. But then, everybody knows Sony never launches on time. Oh snap. Sick burn. No, I kid, I kid. It'll be starting very soon if the dimming lights and no music is any indication.


11: 31 -- Here we go. A video highlight reel. I saw more than enough of these at Nintendo. There's lots of PSPs on the screen. Lots and lots of PSPs. Oh, and now PlayStation 3s. It's like a kaleidoscope.
A home version of Jack Tretton is shown on screen, and Jack Tretton is speaking as his virtual version wanders around Home.
He's showing the "new Home square", which looks a lot nicer now with a much more interesting Home square.


11:34 -- The real Jack Tretton takes the stage, noting that this is his first year up there instead of Kaz Hirai.


11:35 -- Jack's warming up the crowd with jokes about being nervous about his first press conference up at the front of things. He's kicking off by recapping the price drop/ 80 GB news.
JT: "We're squeezing more than 50 titles into this presentation."
Oh man. That's a lot of games in one hour. At least they have the most comfortable chairs, this time, of all the hardware companies. Last year's wood-backed Pain Loungers made a long press conference even longer. This year? Really nice plush white chairs with soft backs. Lap of luxury.
Talking about PSP. Mentions price drop and the new "Dude, Get Your Own" marketing campaign. They've had a 90% increase in sales since the price drop. More than 100 PSP games coming this year in North America.


11:40 AM-- Video reel of PSP games. They show SOCOM: US Navy Seals Tactical Strike, Wipeout Pulse, Syphon Filter, NBA 08...
Joking about what a bad presenter he is, admits nervousness, says he checked his fly 3 times
Talking new pricing.
Promise to show 50 titles.
Arcade area next door, games will be playable after presentation. Don't wanna repeat last years fiasco, no one realized games were playable and just left. PS2 time:
Madden, Sinstar, Buzz. Now we're on to PSP. Sales of PSP up since price drop
UMD sales up over last year. 140 PSP games this fiscal year.
SoCom for PSP looks nice. Patapon looks awesome. Loco Roco style. More action oriented.
Pretty good applause for PSP. Jack in his home CG house
Hangin' with Kaz in home. Tretton kids Hirai over "riiiiiidge racer" line. Kaz on stage now.
Introduce evolution of PSP.
Er, looks pretty much the same
Kaz admits as much...
Same screen size and UMD discs
33 percent lighter, 19 percent slimmer.
Can be linked to Bravia TVs to watch at home
Only Bravias? Come On!
I'm gonna watch PSP jankiness on my TV set? My HDTV set? Seriously?
You'll be able to pause it like a remote, look at pics on TV, access media files on your home pc via Wi-Fi on your PSP from anywhere. The great unspoken truth--awesome for porn!


11:45-- Now I see how they're going to do 50 games in 50 minutes. They're racing through these videos. They certainly beat Microsoft in this respect. And Nintendo, really, who didn't really maximize the appeal of the games by showing the videos with no sound and with somebody talking up in front of them.
They're showing a Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles vid now. Man, looks really nice.


11:50-- Sony will bring out the new PSP in several different colors. An ice blue version will include Daxter, and a Star Wars version will have a limited edition Darth Vader PSP. Hey, Sith happens.
Available in September for 199 US dollars.
Hey Chewbacca is on stage. Ha ha, Chewie's lines on teleprompter: "short statement noise."


11:55-- President of Sony Worldwide Studios Phil Harrison comes out. Time to find out about PlayStation 3 games. Phil Harrison slightly taller than Chewbacca, it turns out. Phil is hyping up a new puzzle game with "the least graphics and the most gameplay of any title you'll see this week." It's from Sony's internal Japan studios. It is called Echo Chrome.


12:00 PM-- The video shows a stick figure walking around optical illusion and MC Escherlike drawings. You have to rotate the massive structures into the proper camera position so the stick figure can get through the obstacles. Looks like another really good-looking innovative game from Sony. I love it.


12:03-- Phil's showing a demo of Wipeout HD and Pain, two more nice looking PlayStation Network titles. In Pain, you apparently have to fling a rag doll animated character all around a cartoony world.


12:04-- Alright, Phil's talking about taking pictures with your Sony Ericsson phone. Oh, this virtual Phil looks way, way better than Virtual Jack.


12:09--Phil took a phone pic of the people in the front row. I imagine this will soon pop up inside of the Home footage that's running on screen.
They're showing some new spaces in Home, like massive homes on the sides of mountain cliffs and Japanese-style homes. These are gonna cost a lot. Phil's private space is a ski lodge, he says. My private space is the bathroom.
Phil has got Singstar running... on a TV in his virtual Home. Does this mean it's going to be linked in with Home...? Or are they just being clever?
The whole conference is very sober and subdued...none of the swagger and arrogance of last year...


12:11-- They're playing a Singstar video. I love Singstar! When the heck is it going to come out?
Phil's not saying.
The photo Phil took on his phone just went directly into his personal space on Home. "Live media blogging from the real world into the virtual world."
They're taking digital photos out of Home and sending them to PCs, so you can create a Web blog of your Home exploits.


12:13-- You can launch any game from your PlayStation 3 from directly within Home. Phil launches Motorstorm right from Home, and it takes him straight in to the multiplayer lobby.
Phil announces Eagle's Nest, a new downloadable track for Motorstorm coming next month.
Phil isn't quite as bad at Motorstorm as Peter Moore is at Rockband. He is in first place, then hits a wall and drops to seventh. Feel my pain, Phil.
12:20-- Jack's back on stage, talking about the new 80 GB PS3 with Motorstorm packed in.
"We're pleased to offer this fully functioning PS3 for a price of $100 below the original launch price." Uh, so that last PS3 wasn't fully functional?
That's only what we've been saying since last year's E3...
"We've never wavered in our belief that Blu-Ray was absolutely the way to go." Lair, he says, will come in at 25 GB of data.
200 Blu-Ray games worldwide, 120 in North America. Okay, they are getting into the meat of the discussion now. New trailers! Make me happy! Don't let me down like Nintendo.


12:21-- NEWS: NCSoft will join the PlayStation camp, says Tretton. They'll be bringing their games to PlayStation exclusively. Games that will be found nowhere else.
"Only PS Network can support the type of gameplay that NCSoft is famous for." says Jack.
Existing franchises and new IPs.
Haze is exclusive to PlayStation 3 this holiday, from Ubisoft.
They're showing a Haze trailer.


12:23-- Seriously, Sony bringing in another MMOG publisher? That's a huge dis to their MMOG arm
Haze looks great...but not Far Cry great.


12:26-- Next up: "Something for real veterans of the gaming industry," says Tretton. Looks like it's Unreal Tournament 3. Sony has signed a "multi-stage deal" with Midway and Epic. "Full optimization of the Unreal Engine for PS3 development."
Unreal Tournament 3 is exclusive to PS3 this year. Ooooh.
"From the studio that brought you GEARS OF WAR," says the trailer for UE3
Clever, but do you really want to hype up a first-party game on your rival platform? Yeesh.
Holy schnikees! Mods from PC version can be brought into PS3. Schweeeeeeet.


12:27-- Wowzers, now this is a nice looking shooter. Dirty ruined beauty look of Gears, with size and scope of Halo enviroments.


12:30-- More of Resident Evil 5. Oh sh*t! Burnout looks hot.
And even more Resident Evil 5. There's a Haitian zombie level. They kinda resemble the natives in Peter Jackson's King Kong though. You're thinking, "Man, that's scary! And racist!"


12:35-- Madden 08. Looks bone crushingly beautiful.
Harry Potter OOTP. Nicer graphics, and I am a Harry Potter nerd, but no Wiimote wand waving? Fail.
The Simpsons Game. The industry's biggest open secret revealed. Again. I hope it's awesome.
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock. Medal of Honor: Airborne. Man, they are going a mile a minute now.
Rock Band. Why isn't Phil on stage playing this with Harmonix? We know he's good at video games, so it's not like he has to fear failure.
Jack's back on stage. So far, let me say that this has been a good press conference. Sony's two-hour-long crazy bore-fests of years past have been intolerable, but this is much, much better. Jack Tretton says that Metal Gear Solid 4 is exclusive to PlayStation 3. To prove it, he brings out...Hideo Kojima.
Kojima is wearing a great Metal Gear T-shirt. I want one! Will they pass them out? Does he have an extra in his bag?
He's talking about how Metal Gear is celebrating its 20th anniversary in this coming July.


12:39-- Kojima says this will be his final Metal Gear game. Not that it won't continue, but he's going to wrap up all his plot and storyline stuff, then retire from making Metal Gear games. Although the game will be a stealth game, there will be new elements of being in the battlefield, so stealth on a war-torn battlefield.
Showing a new Metal gear Solid trailer. Remember, if you aren't here to see it, you can get it on the PlayStation Store.
Looks like Snake's motivation in this game is to assassinate Liquid Snake...who, like Solid, is also old and grey now.
Okay this game is really confusing. Even by Metal Gear Solid standards.


12:40-- Gymkata action with cyborg Raiden...


12:41-- But damn if it ain't riveting...


12:44-- It'll have a "simultaneous worldwide release," says the trailer.
Jack says it'll be out "very soon." Since there's no date attached, I'd assume next year. They are going to have a demo at PlayStation Premiere in Tokyo next week, a playable demo that Kojima will play himself.
Yeah, great. That helps us here in Santa Monica a lot. Dang!


12: 45--Kojima says "I hope everyone can come to Tokyo next week." He tries to say "see you in Tokyo" but is drowned out by peals of laughter.
Phil is in Home dressed up as Ratchet. He's going to show us some great exclusive games coming "this financial year" from Sony.
First off, of course, is Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction.
Next up is: Folklore, from GameRepublic
They're showing a few short clips of each game combined with the developer talking about it a little. Nothing too revealing.


12:50-- Alright! Phil's up in front of the LittleBigPlanet logo. Time for awesome. At GDC, Phil says, they showed how to play it. Now he's going to show us how to create it.
The first release, says the game's designer, will be on Playstation network, and it'll evolve over time. Don't think of the game as being "out" the second you have it in your hands, he says.


12:55-- Okay, so... is that it? We wait for one final megaton announcement.
Phil announces for the very first time, a game from Sly Cooper developers Sucker Punch. it's an emergent gameplay sandbox organic open-city superhero game!
It's called Infamous.
Trailer showing now...


12:58-- The main character is able to leap Crackdown style. Sweet.
Very brief trailer, not much gameplay shown. And it's out in 2008. Looks pretty hot, although it remains to be seen.
Phil is talking about Gran Turismo.
About to open up an exciting new chapter in the series, says Phil. Soon, he says, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue will come to the market as a "precursor" to GT5. What? Are we going be racing around in Model Ts?


1:00-- "That's everything from me today," Phil says. Turns it back to Jack to wrap it up.
Jack sends Phil back out and says , 'didn't you forget one thing?' Oh, it's Killzone.


They're showing the Killzone demo that Susan saw and wrote up for us last night.
Only there's no sushi this time, as far as I can see. Bah!
Demo's over. Phil's out there with the director of Killzone 2. "Now I'll really hand it back to Jack," he says.
Jack's back for some final thoughts.
"We know that all of our accomplishments bring no guarantees for the future." Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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jollygrunt
"Introduce evolution of PSP.
Er, looks pretty much the same
Kaz admits as much...
Same screen size and UMD discs
33 percent lighter, 19 percent slimmer.
Can be linked to Bravia TVs to watch at home
Only Bravias? Come On!
I'm gonna watch PSP jankiness on my TV set? My HDTV set? Seriously? You'll be able to pause it like a remote, look at pics on TV, access media files on your home pc via Wi-Fi on your PSP from anywhere. The great unspoken truth--awesome for porn!"

Sold!!! :D
H
Agreed jollygrunt. Sounds like I'm going to be upgrading my current PSP.
H
I am sure you can watch it on any TV, he was just plugging the Bravia. I was very happy with the press conference and the EXCLUSIVES EXCLUSIVES!!!! yummmmm
dont24
So if I understand correctly, the current PSP doesn't have video/oudio output but the new one will? What about audio out?
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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navychop
Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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navychop
So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
dfergie
Have the beef version of the above mixed and covered in the fridge to soak up flavor, have a lb of ground pork will same with... (down to 2 rolls of previous chorizo batches)
dfergie
Mixed 1 lb pork same way, tested about 4 hours later, both good.
Meal prepped scrambled egg bowls with both and stashed in fridge, had beef version this morning… Good mix.
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So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
i have a cabelas carnivore 1 HP grinder worth the $$$ if you have it. i fried to many kitchenaids to count. ofcourse it was the el cheapo model
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made some chicken parm sausages and some bacon cheeseburger sausages and smoked whiskey bacon sausages
S
Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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Who cares if it's cheaper than store bought. you do realize that ground beef is like hot dogs right lips and a**holes!!! you have no idea whats in it and what animal came from what carcass right :what. get a nice chuck roast!!!
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
T
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
T
They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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Darrell S
I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
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One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
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Not likely since that place closed down.
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