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I posted this in the S&V forum I usually frequent, but I'm trying to see if other people are bothered by this. Is there anything we can do? Anyone hear rumors of updates for this? Read my post below and you'll see what I'm unhappy about.



I've had my HR10-250 HD DVR for a little over 2 years and I love it. It recently crapped out on me and I was excited to learn that I could upgrade to the new one for $19.95 and a 2 year contract w/ D* (as I've mentioned repeatedly this is not an issue to me). So they ship it out Friday morning and it arrives Saturday afternoon. EXCELLENT. I leave it alone until this evening during halftime of the Giants game and start setup. All good, mentions in the manual that I can record 3 SHOWS at once (2 on the separate tuners and one from OTA). Can't get this to work, but it mentions that it is possible. Sounds good, but we'll see. Anyway on to my actual issue w/ the new receiver...

1. You CANNOT pause one channel on tuner 1, switch to tuner 2...watch show, switch back to tuner 1 and pick up exactly where you left of. I repeat YOU CANNOT DO THIS!!! This was one of the greatest and most convenient things that I now have learned was part of Tivo, but not D* HD DVR's. My wife and I loved it. We would literally watch 2 shows at once. Watch show 1, pause at commercial, switch to show 2, pause at commercial, pick up show 1 at same point, wash, rinse, repeat. Once it hit the end of the time slot we would finish one show out then watch the last 10 minutes or so from the "list" of recorded shows. Excellent! During Football season this was THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD. I would never miss a minute of the Giants game (pause at commercial, switch to any close game/rival team/red zone/any game) switch back to the Giant game and not miss ANYTHING. NOW WHAT HAPPENS is you are UNABLE to even switch to the second tuner at any time. In order to do this you have to record whatever channel, then switch the channel (which is now on the other tuner). However, you do not have the ability to pause the show that is recording then come back to it at the same point. You can pause it, but once you switch channels the pause point is removed and the show continues. You would have to rewind to get to the same point.

2. on the new DVR the channel you are watching automatically has the last 90 minutes of the channel as long as you haven't changed the channel (which is nice). previously it was 30 minutes. on the new DVR it only does this on ONE tuner at a time. It does not occur on both tuners (as it did on the Tivo HD-DVR's).

According to the tech I was speaking with at D* my old Tivo HD-DVR will continue to get any current HD channel, but will not recognize any HD channels being sent from the new satellite. Which says to me that I will keep my "old" HD DVR and echoing one of our other members (forget who) you will have to pry that thing out of my cold dead fingers before I give it up. As it stands the "old" HD DVR is stuck in a reboot loop ("powering up" message, "few more minutes" message, back to "powering up", repeat). MatthewB has mentioned that reseting a couple times cleared it up. I plan to try this soon. Otherwise, who can I send my Tivo to to be fixed? I'll be contacting Tivo I guess...who services these things? D* says they don't, they'll just send out a replacement...

I also plan to send multiple emails to D* regarding this issue. They seriously need to update their code or have whomever makes these new DVR's update their code. I can't believe how annoyed I am about this. If I get my old Tivo working it will remain in my main system and the new one will be in the bedroom or something. UGH!!!
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It has been well documented that the D* non-Tivo DVR's do not have dual live buffers and MANY folks have let D* know that they want it. On the other hand many former Tivo users say they really don't miss it.

One way to get around it is to just record both channels then you can switch between the two recordings. It's a PITA but it works as a circumvention.
dcwebman
I don't think I watch live TV anymore because I always record it, even if it's ready to start in a minute. It just makes things so much easier in case I need to stop watching for whatever reason and don't have to worry about a live buffer. After having used both the HR10-250 and HR20 since the HR20 first came out, the only thing I can say I miss from the HR10-250 is the 3 beeps when fast forwarding. I love being able to use the menus, guide, etc. and still be able to see the picture in the upper right while doing so.
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It has been well documented that the D* non-Tivo DVR's do not have dual live buffers and MANY folks have let D* know that they want it. On the other hand many former Tivo users say they really don't miss it.

One way to get around it is to just record both channels then you can switch between the two recordings. It's a PITA but it works as a circumvention.


Well I DEFINITELY miss it. What's annoying is that EVEN if you record 2 channels you can't pause one and go directly to the other. Then go back and pick up where you left off. Looks like I'll swap a HDD and buy that instant cake mentioned. Freakin ANNOYING!!!
Jimbo
Well I DEFINITELY miss it. What's annoying is that EVEN if you record 2 channels you can't pause one and go directly to the other. Then go back and pick up where you left off. Looks like I'll swap a HDD and buy that instant cake mentioned. Freakin ANNOYING!!!

I think you may be able to do that now, IF you have the HR20-700 and the current CE update, this update added a nice little feature that you can stop a show and then resume or start over, this is new for the HR20, I don't know if the old HR10's did that already or not.

Jimbo
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I love being able to use the menus, guide, etc. and still be able to see the picture in the upper right while doing so.

I use this feature on the HR20 on a daily basis and the only time I used dual live buffers was on Sundays during the Fall and early winter for NFL Sunday Ticket. I dropped my subscription this Season so I wouldn't be using dlb at all.
IUAT
Hi everyone i am new here... I current have an r15 but am looking to go to either an hr10-250 or h20.... I have been doing lots of looking in different forums but I can seem to find a definite answer about wether or not the HR10's can receive local hd channels I know we have some available in my area when I search on the Dtv website for my zip code (47401)...thanks for any info
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D* HD DVR's (HR20 vs. HR10-250 HD DVR

Hi everyone i am new here... I current have an r15 but am looking to go to either an hr10-250 or h20.... I have been doing lots of looking in different forums but I can seem to find a definite answer about wether or not the HR10's can receive local hd channels I know we have some available in my area when I search on the Dtv website for my zip code (47401)...thanks for any info


The HR10-250 will integrate any OTA digital signals that you can receive into its guide.

It will not get D*'s HD LILs from the satellite (they are MPEG 4).

Welcome to the site!
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Hi everyone i am new here... I current have an r15 but am looking to go to either an hr10-250 or h20.... I have been doing lots of looking in different forums but I can seem to find a definite answer about wether or not the HR10's can receive local hd channels I know we have some available in my area when I search on the Dtv website for my zip code (47401)...thanks for any info

Despite the fact I really liked my HR10-250 IMHO it is not worth getting one now, with the move of DirecTV HD to MPEG-4 encoding and to the new 99 and 103 satellite slots. The HR10-250 will not receive any of the new HD programming, nor the DirecTV HD locals. And sometime fairly soon, probably before the end of 2008, the existing DirecTV HD channels will move to the new satellite slots and the ONLY HD the HR10-250 will receive will be the OTA HD channels thru an antenna. If all you want is to view and record SD and the local OTA digital channels, the HR10 will still work OK. But if you want DirecTV HD, it's absolutely the wrong way to go.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
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I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
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I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
PHP and a heapin' helpin' of JavaScript.

As dated as it is, PHP is eminently adept at projects like a forum. With modules, it is competitive in flexibility and computational efficiency with tools like Node.js or Ruby (where you must choose from many outboard tools).
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More specifically, these:



A more scholarly story is here:

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"WARNING Will Robinson!"
Don in CT
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
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Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John & Kiki Dee
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Please Don't Go - KC & The Sunshine Band
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If You Don't Know Me By Now - Simply Red
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Juan
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
dishstaller
.a bag...not much
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
Juan
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
NYDutch
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
dishstaller
but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...

Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
It appears we are not getting both home & away feeds out of market on League Pass for these teams either…

I've been watching the Spurs home feed on channel 676-1 (was part time San Antonio specific feed) out of market with NBALP for YEARS on satellite (through the multiple iterations of Fox Sports SW, Bally Sports SW, FanDuel Sports SW) Looks like that will not happen unless a deal is reached with DAZN. I do see the placeholder channel on 680 if it happens.
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It appears we are not getting both home & away feeds out of market on League Pass for these teams either…
Center Ice does have the non-carried feeds, including the Hurricanes, Wild, Blues and Blue Jackets and spotbeam local only teams like the Panthers, Mammoth and Golden Knights. So it probably depends on the available part time bandwidth each night as things they are able to provide to in market viewers in the 600s, PPV Events in the 100s and commercial events in the 9000s get priority first, along with games where neither team has a remappable feed.
coolman302003
League Pass tonight for example (it is almost a full slate tonight):
Hawks @ Magic (only Hawks feed which is easy to insert since its OTA this season and simulcast across multiple Gray Television markets, Magic signed a non- exclusive streaming deal with DAZN and also OTA)
Bucks @ Wizards (only Wizards feed easy to remap, Bucks are OTA & there own streaming service Bucks+)
Hornets @ Nets (only Nets feed which DirecTV already carries so simply YES remap, Hornets signed non-exclusive streaming deal with DAZN, also OTA)
Bulls @ Raptors (Bulls only feed via CHSN remap, its common that we don't get Raptors feeds that often)
Jazz @ Grizzlies (Jazz only feed OTA easy to insert, Grizzlies signed streaming deal with DAZN)
Pacers @ Pelicans (Pelicans only feed which is OTA easy to insert, Pacers signed streaming deal with DAZN)

Maybe it will change but it looks like DirecTV may only carry DAZN feeds on NBA LP when there is no other option, such as when two teams (either Cavaliers, Pacers, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Spurs) that are both DAZN exclusive are playing each other, we shall see as the season goes on I guess.

This NBA season will be the first in a long time where many League Pass games are carried on feeds DirecTV doesn't normally carry or are only available through OTA spot beams. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, especially whether we eventually get both home and away feeds for these teams out of market again.
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Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
cp2k
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Nice knowing you Brian…

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The situation w/ the Titans and Jordan Elliott is scary.


Makes me think of the Javon Belcher murder suicide.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
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Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
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KAB
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
I think this new season is a little too slow of a burn (as of ep #4, probably due to new show runner. However, I can't wait to find out what's up with Taverner!
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Well, the season finale went balls to the wall. Non stop action and several twisted twists. Gary Oldman at his best. Very well written and executed. Tavener owes Jackson big time. Only "if" was Jack Lowden's (River) cliffhanger, especially admin-st the buzz that he is the next James Bond in waiting.
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Planning to start the new season tonight. :)
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I missed somewhere that it was renewed for season 8. That's quite something!