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Last reply · posted in The HD DVD / Blu-ray WAR ZONE!
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-wa...ray-303318.php



War Ends In 18 Months, Possibly with HD DVD Upset Victory Over Blu-ray

Sales of next-gen high-def disc players won't kick into high gear for another 18 months, says a fresh report from Forrester Research. The study didn't say whose players, though, because what was once an easy call—Blu-ray by Christmas 2007—has gotten, well, murkier. In these most recent rounds, HD DVD has been bitchslapping Blu-ray up and down the ring.

Following price drops in HD DVD players and Paramount's decision to stick solely to that format, analyst J.P. Gownder writes:

"Weakened by these developments, Blu-ray needs to offer a viable hardware model at the $250 price point by Christmas 2007. The Blu-ray camp must also stave off further studio defections, and employ more aggressive promotional tactics to counter HD DVD's recent momentum."
People need a $200 player or they won't buy, in spite of the current rampant sales of high-def TVs. It's still Blu-ray's game to lose, but here's Gownder's bottom line:

"Failure to alter strategy would open up Blu-ray to a possible upset defeat at the hands of HD DVD."
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BobMurdoch
I meant for my statement to be light hearted as Joe doesn't often make such statements.

I am not infallible either, and I've backed down when facts have been presented to refute something I've stated.

I relish our spirited debate here, and like ANY good debate, we emphasize those points that bolster OUR argument, and tend to wave away ones that don't.

Nothing has changed to move Joe off being a BluRay proponent, just as we, the HD DVD proponents, still remain unmoving in our camp.

I've always preferred HD DVD's advantages to Blu Ray, and hope it ultimately wins out. I may even give up and embrace a neutral status and buy a good universal player if one hits $300 from a brand name manufacturer. I think that is two years off at best though.

I look forward to many more conversations in the future.

I STILL think it is a great sig quote though..... Especially for anyone who frequents the HD DVD vs. Blu Ray forum.....
bsk116
I meant for my statement to be light hearted as Joe doesn't often make such statements.

I am not infallible either, and I've backed down when facts have been presented to refute something I've stated.

I relish our spirited debate here, and like ANY good debate, we emphasize those points that bolster OUR argument, and tend to wave away ones that don't.

Nothing has changed to move Joe off being a BluRay proponent, just as we, the HD DVD proponents, still remain unmoving in our camp.

I've always preferred HD DVD's advantages to Blu Ray, and hope it ultimately wins out. I may even give up and embrace a neutral status and buy a good universal player if one hits $300 from a brand name manufacturer. I think that is two years off at best though.

I look forward to many more conversations in the future.

I STILL think it is a great sig quote though..... Especially for anyone who frequents the HD DVD vs. Blu Ray forum.....

And I was not referring to you alone Bob, I did not know how to include the post contained within your quote and include both in my post. Confused yet?
Anyway, I frequent this forum daily and I feel Joe gets beat up more than most and I realize this IS the war zone, post at your own risk.

I did see the smiley face after your post and I know your comment was in jest, but sometimes you read something and cannot let it go.
I, as you, have been entertained by all the conversations and I too, look forward to more in the future. War on!
JoeSp
Let's try this, Paidgeek is the VP of Sony Pictures. Where does Sony Pictures have any involvement in the design, production, and continued developement of the PS3. Uhh -- NONE! Paidgeed does not even have a inside at PS3 in North America. He deals with Sony Pictures and Sony Pictures alone. He has NO INPUT - NO OUTPUT - NO ONE ON THE BOARD - NO ONE UNDER THE TABLE at the Sony Electronics Division. He only knows what Sony Electronics wants him to know when they want him to know it.

Having said that, if Paidgeek wants to comment on Sony Pictures, when they might include BDJava 1.1 or 2.0 on one of their pictures and what information they are going to be implementing then I will pay attention. However, any comment he has on the ongoing developement of the PS3 is only from what Sony wants him to know.

He has no input on the Playstation 3 nor any on Sony's BD Players. Hey, Maybe Sony has decided to let Sony Pictures run Sony Electronics? My guess is -- NOPE!!

Why don't you listen to Harrison instead. Oh wait, he is the man in charge of marketing the PS3 here in the good ol USA. I guess Paidgeek is supposed to know more then Harrison and Harrison is just telling lies!

Here is the bottom line -- BDJava 2.0 requires an ethernet connection, two video and two audio decoders, 512k of memory OR 1GB of storage. GEE, the PS3 has that right now. It also has HDMI 1.3 and if anyone had looked at the audio out of the PS3 the audio list includes the ablility to pass 7.1 in bitstream thru the HDMI port. Even the company implementing DTS-HD Master has reported that they are now working directly with Sony to implement DTS-HD Master Decoding by March 08.

The question has always been will Sony allow this to happen before CE manufacturers put their BD players on the market or if they will allow the PS3 to do this. The question has NEVER been if the PS3 had the hardware to do BDJava 1.1 or 2.0 -- that was a given from the very begining. The question has always been if and when.

Maybe you guys noticed that the PS3 has had no problems yet with any version of Java on a BD movie to date? I guess PS3 owners are just lucky -- huh!
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LMAO. Literally.
Paidgeek knows nothing, JoeSp knows everything... Hilarious!

...Why don't you listen to Harrison instead. Oh wait, he is the man in charge of marketing the PS3 here in the good ol USA. I guess Paidgeek is supposed to know more then Harrison and Harrison is just telling lies!
No, you mixed up again. It's you that's telling lies. You, got it?
Show where Harrison says the PS3 does 1.1 now, and we'll talk.
Until then... well, you know what to do (and everybody knows, you won't).
...The question has NEVER been if the PS3 had the hardware to do BDJava 1.1 or 2.0 -- that was a given from the very begining.
The question has always been if and when.
EXACTLY! Are you smarting up, or what?
This is the only thing paidgeek was telling you.
He was actually more optimistic than you, he never said if. :p

On a tangent note: after Kutaragi's promotion/firing, the PS3 division does what it is told to do.
Kutaragi singlehandedly put a BD drive into PS3, but what it will be allowed to do will be decided by others.
And by others, I don't mean you, JoeSp...

Diogen.
JoeSp
Diogen, where did I say I knew everthing? I just questioned your using Paidgeek like he had an inside seat at Sony Electronics (which he doesn't) and you attack me personally. You really do not have anything other then bs to offer do you?

Phil Harrison has said many times that when Java 1.1 is required the PS3 will be updated to allow full compliance. I have stated more then once that the PS3 currently has been able to do the following: update over the internet thru the ethernet port, play back two video sources with audio for each at the same time, save information on the harddrive (hence the reason you can quit multiple tasks - viewing a movie, checking out a feature, playing a video, playing a game and go right back to the exact place where you stop whatever you were doing. With the PS3 you can interact with other PS3 users over the internet both in a game scenario and outside of a game scenario and this includes a live feed both video and audio between users. In addition there have been no Java - Games on the BD movies that the PS3 has yet failed to play. No interactive or animated menu that the PS3 has failed to play. Maybe the PS3 isn't calling the firmware they are using to do BDJava BD Java1.1 but with the announced firmware update perhaps then it will be called that and you can chill out.

In the meantime, since you are obviously the PS3 knowitall - would you like to explain- since you have a PS3 and know so much about what features that BDJava 1.1 will introduce to BD standalones- what features the PS3 currently is not doing right now? You may call Paidgeek now.
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In the meantime, since you are obviously the PS3 knowitall...
WTF does this have to do with the discussion. I don't have a PS3, I won't have a PS3.
I quoted one statement by paidgeek about PS3 abilities. You took it personal.
Phil Harrison has said many times that when Java 1.1 is required the PS3 will be updated to allow full compliance.
So, it is not compliant yet, right?

Paidgeek: It is expected to be 1.1 compliant...
Harrison: It will be updated to be 1.1 compliant...
JoeSp: It is 1.1 compliant now...

Notice any difference?
Or maybe experience working for defunct companies clouds your vision?

BTW, care to provide a link to Harrison quote?
Because what you say he says is... you know...

Diogen.
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.