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Bulbman2
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Many years ago I owned a 10' Bud I always felt that the picture quality was superior with the bud. I am not sure if it was a compression issue or just my own perception.

Are there any specifications that show actual difference in picture quality between the bud and fta or directv or dish?
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Inno
With a properly set up BUD receiving analog signals, the picture quality was 2nd to none.
With the exception of HD, there isn't a digital signal out there that can compare to pure, uncompressed, unmolested full bandwidth analog video!
Having said that, analog satellite IS susceptable to all kinds of interference, sparklies etc. if things aren't aimed properly or as equipment ages. But in all the years I had a BUD (and I will again soon) I never had a loss of signal from a rain storm..........snow would sometimes coat the dish and reduce signal strength but a quick sweep would fix that right up.
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With a properly set up BUD receiving analog signals, the picture quality was 2nd to none.
With the exception of HD, there isn't a digital signal out there that can compare to pure, uncompressed, unmolested full bandwidth analog video!
Having said that, analog satellite IS susceptable to all kinds of interference, sparklies etc. if things aren't aimed properly or as equipment ages. But in all the years I had a BUD (and I will again soon) I never had a loss of signal from a rain storm..........snow would sometimes coat the dish and reduce signal strength but a quick sweep would fix that right up.

I have seen many dvb feeds that blow away a noisy analog feed any day, also if you have ever seen the Disney feeds on Galaxy-14 when they are fp you will be amazed, digital picture quality can easily blow away analog, it comes down to compression and sadly most broadcasters take advantage of saving money over sending out a very high quality feed.
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BUD is better

The BUD signal is better. However, of course, there are far fewer FTA signals available. DIRECTV just added a number of HD channels which are encrypted and cannot be received FTA on a BUD.

However, if you can get the same event or broadcast on a BUD and DIRECTV or DISH (such as an FTA sports or network feed), the BUD is better.

In part, here is why. DIRECTV or DISH receive that same feed and re-transmits it. So, the BUD owner can get a 1st generation or second generation signal (if, for example, it is a CBS Network feed).

DIRECTV or DISH get the 2nd generation signal and re-transmit it. If it is a local station broadcasting a game, DIRECTV or DISH get a 3d generation signal (there is the feed, the network transmission to the local and the local uplink to DIRECTV) and then send a 4th generation signal.

Of course, most locals are not available FTA and those that are available are not broadcast in HD.

I also believe the reception on the 10 foot dish is better than the smaller dish.

Still, I have DIRECTV and the picture is really good.
Inno
I have seen many dvb feeds that blow away a noisy analog feed any day, also if you have ever seen the Disney feeds on Galaxy-14 when they are fp you will be amazed, digital picture quality can easily blow away analog, it comes down to compression and sadly most broadcasters take advantage of saving money over sending out a very high quality feed.


I agree with what you're saying......compression is what kills a good signal and a lot of digital signals are better than a "noisy" analog feed.......but I'm talking about the good analog feeds with good equipment and a properly tuned system.
The "digital quality" that the DTH companies refer to is a joke. So what you're saying is correct, a digital picture CAN blow away analog......but often it simply doesn't.
I haven't seen the Disney feeds on Galaxy-14, but I hope to sometime in the near future. After moving I'll have room for a BUD and perhaps I'll get into 4DTV.
truckracer
analog c-band (with a strong signal and no sparklies) will usually give you much better color accuracy and detail over compressed digital signals. The only exception would be a very high bandwidth channel that is a master broadcast. pizza dishes will give you the most compressed signals.

The mini dish companies compress and cram as many channels as they can to give the customer "digital quantity" not necessarily "digital quality".

Just as audiophiles do not care much for satellite radio such as the two major companies we have now. This is because they have limited bandwidth and many of their channels sound like "internet radio" with the tinny sounds and inaccurate music reproduction. Most channels will have that "playing at 32K" sound.
Anole
Many years ago I owned a 10' Bud I always felt that the picture quality was superior with the bud.
I am not sure if it was a compression issue or just my own perception.
I don't take exception to any of the answers posted above.
But, a lot of things are not directly comparable.
And you have to be careful of generalizations.

Just as a for-instance: Dish several years ago, Dish today, Dish locals right now.
If you wanted to say anything good or bad about pizza performance, you'd have to qualify which of the above categories you used.

At one time, I found the digital, noise-free picture from Dish superior to my off-the-air analog reception.
Now, with digital off-the-air reception, the tables have turned.
And I'm just talking standard def, here.

Another big contributing factor is your television.
I was using a decent 27" unit at 8..10 feet away.
Even with good eyesight, a DVD or pizza dish looked pretty comparable.

Then, I got a hi def 42" LCD, wiith ATSC tuner.
OTA Los Angeles was a real eye-opener! :eek:

I'd read that customers who got hi def TVs found Dish standard def repulsive.
All I can say, is that either:
- they're idiots
- they're hyper-critical after seeing real HD
- they never bothered tuning up the sets to optimize each source.

I watch some sd and/or FTA material that is substandard on my bigger set.
That's what I have, so if it's worth watching, I have no option.
I'm still going to watch the game, race, or movie.
And if it's entertaining, the less-than-perfect picture is secondary.


Are there any specifications that show actual difference in picture quality between the bud and fta or directv or dish?
An indication, would be the resolution and bandwidth.
Those are easier to discover on a computer interfaced FTA card.
And when I make DVDs out of such material, it's right in front of me.
You'd be surprised how modest both can be and still get a good picture.
(under most conditions)
I don't think there is a list of either for the popular FTA channels, but that might be a good thing to compile. - :up
Inno
Anole,
I agree with the fact that if something is only available in SD and it's worth watching, you're gonna watch it.
The other thing I've noticed since most manufacturers have switched to making only "digital" tv sets is that most analog signals look quite bad on them. Imagine being a customer who sees a nice new LCD or Plasma set in a dealer's showroom running a Hi-Def signal or at the very least DVD then getting the set home and connecting to analog cable and seeing every annoying little flaw in the picture only magnified. They're seeing stuff with the new set that looked fine with their old analog CRT set. Of course they blame the new TV, "the old TV looked so much better". It all comes down to comparing apples to apples and trying to put things on a level playing field.
In this particular thread, there really is no level playing field. Everyone is using different signal sources, different receiving equipment, different TVs etc. etc. etc.
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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teachsac
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Pass,
K
Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
B
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley
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See Me Feel Me - The Who
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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TheRatPatrol
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
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Hopefully soon for fire stick too
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Bobby
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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dishstaller
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
jokeworm
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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TRG
Beef and vegetable stew with buttermilk biscuits. Water.
It seemed appropriate on an unusually cold and wet evening in New Mexico.
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Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.
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TRG
I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.
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venison lasagna
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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