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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - Week Ending 02/09/2008

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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - Week Ending 02/09/2008 - 33 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 02/04/2008 03:28P - 02/06/2008 11:28A -

468 - ORDER [MPEG2 HD] - EchoStar8 110W TP 19 ConUS beam changed to Available
711 - ISRLI (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam
733 - PLSAT (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam
736 - ITVN moved from EchoStar9 121W TP 29 ConUS beam to EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam (A)
745 - GEOTV (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam
814 - GLOBO (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam
816 - RTPI (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 13 ConUS beam
902 - GEONW [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 07 ConUS beam changed to Available
902 - GEONW [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam changed to Available
903 - AAGTV [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 07 ConUS beam changed to Available
903 - AAGTV [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam changed to Available
5417 - MT67 (NA) removed from EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam
5716 - PLSAT (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 21 ConUS beam
5718 - GEOTV (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 06 ConUS beam
5725 - ISRLI (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 05 ConUS beam
5794 - HDSKD [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 27 ConUS beam (Not Available)
5795 - HDSKD [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 27 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9463 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9463 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9464 - ORDER [MPEG2 HD] - EchoStar8 110W TP 19 ConUS beam changed to Available
9483 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9483 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9484 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9484 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9492 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9492 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9494 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 11 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9494 - TEMP [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam (Not Available)
9637 - PTST1 (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 03 ConUS beam
9680 - DPOP (A) removed from EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam
9680 - DPOP (A) removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam
9692 - R-300 (A) removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam

Transponder Changes:
Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 ConUS beam 8PSK added to tables

Channels in the system: 4582
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - Week Ending 02/09/2008 - 48 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 02/06/2008 11:28A - 02/07/2008 07:59A -

573 - FPCHN moved from EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam to EchoStar1 148W TP 29 ConUS beam (A)
573 - FPCHN moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam (A)
578 - BRDGS moved from EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam to EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam (A)
578 - BRDGS moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (A)
582 - CCTV4 moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam (A)
588 - BLUE moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam (A)
589 - ANTGO moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
605 - ANTEN moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
622 - APUNJ moved from EchoStar1 148W TP 25 ConUS beam to EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam (A)
622 - APUNJ moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam to Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam (A)
623 - ZGUJ moved from EchoStar1 148W TP 25 ConUS beam to EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam (A)
623 - ZGUJ moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam to Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam (A)
644 - LBC moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam (A)
645 - ALJAZ moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam (A)
670 - MBC moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam (A)
674 - INDMU moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
678 - INDVI moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
778 - NBN moved from EchoStar1 148W TP 19 ConUS beam to EchoStar1 148W TP 03 ConUS beam (A)
778 - NBN moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 10 ConUS beam (A)
911 - ANTRA moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
912 - RYTHM moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam (A)
913 - SSPFM moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
5728 - RAI moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam (A)
6340 - WKRN moved from EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar5 129W TP 10 ConUS beam (A)
6341 - WTVF moved from EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar5 129W TP 10 ConUS beam (A)
6342 - WSMV moved from EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar5 129W TP 09 ConUS beam (A)
6343 - WZTV moved from EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar5 129W TP 09 ConUS beam (A)
9405 - PNTGN moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 27 ConUS beam (A)
9406 - ARTS moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 10 ConUS beam (A)
9416 - GSN moved from EchoStar1 148W TP 19 ConUS beam to EchoStar1 148W TP 03 ConUS beam (A)
9416 - GSN moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 10 ConUS beam (A)
9418 - PAEC moved from EchoStar1 148W TP 19 ConUS beam to EchoStar2 148W TP 26 ConUS beam (A)
9418 - PAEC moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam to Echostar12 61.5W TP 23 ConUS beam (A)
9470 - RAVE moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9471 - EQUTR moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9473 - TRESR moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9474 - ANIMA moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9480 - FILMF moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9481 - MNSTR moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9486 - FAMLY moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam (A)
9550 - NHLHD moved from EchoStar5 129W TP 27 ConUS beam to EchoStar5 129W TP 08 ConUS beam (A)
9902 - D61.5 moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam (A)

Transponder Changes:
Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 ConUS beam 8PSK removed from tables
Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 ConUS beam QPSK removed from tables
EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam 8PSK added to tables
EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam 8PSK removed from tables
EchoStar9 121W TP 09 ConUS beam changed FEC from 2/3 to 3/4
EchoStar9 121W TP 18 ConUS beam changed FEC from 2/3 to 3/4

Channels in the system: 4582
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
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Bruce
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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

cordcuttersnews.com

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
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savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
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dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
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AZ.
dishdude said:
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
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I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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jamieh1
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NHL game channels

Looks like DTV made a deal. I'm now getting it on ch 650. The tv promise slate is gone.
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A few teams got a deal. Was posted yesterday in the Directv update thread
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...-louis-blues-regional-channels-302918682.html
DIRECTV today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement with the National Hockey League for Hurricanes Hockey Network, Blue Jackets Hockey Network, Wild+, and Blue Note+ pregame, postgame, and in-game live sports services.

Each of the four channels will be available to DIRECTV streaming and satellite customers who live in each team's NHL-designated home territory and subscribe to Choice and higher packages, and each U-verse customer in those same regions who subscribes to U200 and above.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each NHL team to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS's thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.

DIRECTV has recently obtained regional or local rights to provide 76 of the 81 U.S.-based NHL, NBA, or MLB franchises to their local fans, including multi-year agreements for 23 U.S.-based hockey teams.
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Now let's get the NBA game channels going.
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KyL416
I'm trying to figure out the math that got them to 76 of 81 US based teams:
DIRECTV has recently obtained regional or local rights to provide 76 of the 81 U.S.-based NHL, NBA, or MLB franchises to their local fans, including multi-year agreements for 23 U.S.-based hockey teams.
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77 Phillies
78 76ers
79 Flyers (Next year will mark 30 years since DTV last had local Philly sports after the demise of SportsChannel Philly, at this point the lack of NBCS Philly is not a dealbreaker for most of their remaining PA, Southern NJ and Delaware customers)
80 Stars -- Not listed in the NHL release as KDFI/KDFW only has 17 simulcasts the rest are Prime only
The lack of Flyers and Stars would match the 23 of 25 US based NHL teams.

81 Ducks? -- KCOP is listed in the NHL release, but between them and KTTV only 65/77 games will be available, the other 12 will be Prime only, and there's no OTA option at all for viewers in the Santa Barbara or San Diego DMAs
Unlike the 4 NHL distributed teams (Blues, Blue Jackets, Hurricanes, Wild), the Stars and Ducks are available at no additional cost for Prime subscribers


In the NHL release they are counting the LIL coverage of OTA teams for "local rights", even if all of the outer markets aren't available (i.e. Golden Knights and Mammoth on The Spot Idaho subchannels, the Panthers on Laff Fort Myers and Ducks outside of the LA DMA), so at least for the home markets they have the following OTA NBA teams:
Heat - WPLG/10 Miami and WTCN-CD/43 West Palm Beach -- slate up on channel 654, but I doubt they are going to add a Heat feed just for Fort Myers unless the Heat make it available cheaply, they didn't even do it for the Panthers who won the Stanley Cup in 2024 and 2025
Hornets - WAXN/64 Charlotte, WMYV/48 Greensboro, WRDC/28 Raleigh and the satellite only WZBJ/24 Roanoke -- slate up on channel 648 for the rest of the Carolinas
Magic - WRDQ/27 Orlando and WMOR/32 Tampa -- slate up on channel 656 for the non-carried subchannel markets Jacksonville, Gainesville, Panama City and Tallahassee along with the Florida portions of the Mobile-Pensacola DMA who doesn't have any OTA carriage.
Hawks - WANF/46 Atlanta -- slate up on channel 646 for the rest of Georgia and Alabama
Bucks - WVTV-D2/24 Milwaukee and the satellite only WISC-D2/14 Madison -- slate up on channel 669 for the rest of Wisconsin
Suns - KAZF/32 Phoenix -- Nothing for Tucson, Yuma or New Mexico
Jazz - KJZZ/14 Salt Lake City -- Nothing for the areas of Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, Idaho and Montana that used to get it on an alternate feed of Root Northwest
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You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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TRG said:
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
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$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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Bobby said:
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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Jimbo said:
don't think theres sodium in it
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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Jimbo said:
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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Jimbo said:
Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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It goes on sale all the time here. Like NOW! I'm gonna go stock up today. This is at Albertsons.
BTW I don't buy Ice cream for it's nutritional value. But I understand that some people need to keep an eye on that sort of thing for personal health reasons.

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I've noticed some of this too, and a bigger trend I've noticed lately is that buying bigger quantities isn't always cheaper anymore. Take Pepsi for example. At several of our local stores it is cheaper per ounce to buy the 1.25l bottles (and buy more of them) than it is to buy the 2 liter bottles when you break it down to a per ounce price. Also, Food Lion is bad about jacking up prices before Buy one get one free sales. They'll have a BOGO offer where you get the second one free, but raise the price for one to nearly the same price or higher than it would be to just buy two of the item at another store outright.

Another big trap people fall for are Dollar General and Dollar Tree. Typically their quantities are smaller, and priced higher per ounce than what you would see at Wal-Mart for example. I saw someone in line the last time I was in Dollar Tree with 6 items at $1.50 each. Four of them could've been had for less than $1 at Wal-Mart. The crazier thing is the Dollar Tree is in a shopping strip mall located in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
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TRG said:
It goes on sale all the time here. Like NOW! I'm gonna go stock up today. This is at Albertsons.
BTW I don't buy Ice cream for it's nutritional value. But I understand that some people need to keep an eye on that sort of thing for personal health reasons.

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Up here, Breyers will go on sale for $3.99 or $4.99, it varies week to week.

I never use to worry about the Nutritional value either, but now I'm suppose to ... I really shouldn't have ANY, but if I have smaller quantities I'm ok ... trying to get the old A1C down, and still have somethings that I like.
Dr wants me on weeds apparently ... he hasn't offered weed yet !
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cp2k said:
I've noticed some of this too, and a bigger trend I've noticed lately is that buying bigger quantities isn't always cheaper anymore. Take Pepsi for example. At several of our local stores it is cheaper per ounce to buy the 1.25l bottles (and buy more of them) than it is to buy the 2 liter bottles when you break it down to a per ounce price. Also, Food Lion is bad about jacking up prices before Buy one get one free sales. They'll have a BOGO offer where you get the second one free, but raise the price for one to nearly the same price or higher than it would be to just buy two of the item at another store outright.

Another big trap people fall for are Dollar General and Dollar Tree. Typically their quantities are smaller, and priced higher per ounce than what you would see at Wal-Mart for example. I saw someone in line the last time I was in Dollar Tree with 6 items at $1.50 each. Four of them could've been had for less than $1 at Wal-Mart. The crazier thing is the Dollar Tree is in a shopping strip mall located in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
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Convenience ... I guess.
Personally, I'm not bouncing around stores to save .50 cents
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Bruce said:
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Jimbo said:
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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Bruce said:
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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Jimbo said:
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Jimbo said:
Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
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Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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savarese04 said:
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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I have turned some off, not others ...
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Xbox Rumored Game Pass Overhaul

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Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dbrand Forced me to do This Review

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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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techristian said:
IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Updates on Artemis III?

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