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FCC DTV FAQS
THE DIGITAL TRANSITION
What is the digital TV (DTV) transition?
The switch from analog to digital broadcast television is referred to as the digital TV (DTV)
transition. In 1996, the U.S. Congress authorized the distribution of an additional broadcast
channel to each broadcast TV station so that they could start a digital broadcast channel while
simultaneously continuing their analog broadcast channel. Later, Congress mandated that
February 17, 2009 would be the last day for full-power television stations to broadcast in
analog. Broadcast stations in all U.S. markets are currently broadcasting in both analog and
digital. After February 17, 2009, full-power television stations will broadcast in digital only.

Why are we switching to DTV?
An important benefit of the switch to all-digital broadcasting is that it will free up parts of the
valuable broadcast spectrum for public safety communications (such as police, fire
departments, and rescue squads). Also, some of the spectrum will be auctioned to companies
that will be able to provide consumers with more advanced wireless services (such as wireless
broadband).
Consumers also benefit because digital broadcasting allows stations to offer improved picture
and sound quality, and digital is much more efficient than analog. For example, rather than
being limited to providing one analog program, a broadcaster is able to offer a super sharp
"high definition" (HD) digital program or multiple "standard definition" (SD) digital programs
simultaneously through a process called "multicasting." Multicasting allows broadcast stations
to offer several channels of digital programming at the same time, using the same amount of
spectrum required for one analog program. So, for example, while a station broadcasting in
analog on channel 7 is only able to offer viewers one program, a station broadcasting in
digital on channel 7 can offer viewers one digital program on channel 7-1, a second digital
program on channel 7-2, a third digital program on channel 7-3, and so on. This means more
programming choices for viewers.


What do I need to do to be ready for the end of analog TV broadcasting?
Because Congress mandated that the last day for full-power television stations to broadcast in
analog would be February 17, 2009, over-the-air TV broadcasts will be in digital only after
that date. If you have one or more televisions that receive free over-the-air television
programming (with a roof-top antenna or "rabbit ears" on the TV), the type of TV you own is
very important. A digital television (a TV with an internal digital tuner) will allow you to
continue to watch free over-the-air programming after February 17, 2009. However, if you
have an analog television, you will need a digital-to-analog converter box to continue to
watch broadcast television on that set. This converter box will also enable you to see any
additional multicast programming that your local stations are offering.
To help consumers with the DTV transition, the Government established the Digital-to-Analog
Converter Box Coupon Program. The National Telecommunications and Information
Administration (NTIA), a part of the Department of Commerce, administers this program.
Every U.S. household is eligible to receive up to two coupons, worth $40 each, toward the
purchase of eligible digital-to-analog converter boxes. You will be able to request the
coupons beginning in January of 2008. The coupons may only be used for eligible converter
boxes sold at participating consumer electronics retailers, and the coupons must be used at
the time of purchase. Manufacturers estimate that digital-to-analog converter boxes will sell
from $40 to $70 each. This is a one-time cost. For more information on the Digital-to-Analog
Converter Box Coupon Program, visit the NTIA's website at NTIA: Digital TV Transition and Public Safety,
or call 1-888-388-2009 (voice) or 1-877-530-2634 (TTY).
Cable and satellite TV subscribers with analog TVs hooked up to their cable or satellite service
should not be affected by the February 17, 2009 cut-off date for full-power analog
broadcasting.

Do I have to wait until after February 17, 2009 to watch DTV?
No, digital television is available now. If you watch over-the-air television today, you should
be able to receive all or most of your local stations' digital signals if you have a DTV receiver.
You may view high definition and multicast programming from your local stations. Check
your local program listings or contact your local TV stations to find out more about the digital
television available now. The FCC's special website, The Digital TV Transition: What You Need to Know About DTV, has more information on
digital television, or call 1-888-225-5322 (TTY: 1-888-835-5322).

If I have an older analog television, will I have to throw it away after February 17,
2009?

No. A digital-to-analog converter box will allow you to continue using your existing analog TV
to watch over-the-air digital broadcasts. You do not need to get rid of your existing analog
TV. In addition, analog sets should continue to work as before if connected to a subscription
service such as cable or satellite TV. Also, analog sets should continue to work with gaming
consoles, VCRs, DVD players, and similar products that you use now.

Will the February 17, 2009 date for the end of full-power analog television
broadcasting be pushed back?
Federal law mandates that February 17, 2009 is the last day of full-power analog television
broadcasting. Government agencies, industry, public interest groups, and other interested
organizations are working hard to make sure that the deadline is met and that everyone is
prepared for the end of full-power analog television broadcasting.


YOUR TELEVISION

If I want a new TV, will I have to buy a High Definition TV (HDTV) to watch digital
broadcast television after the transition?
No. It is important to understand that the DTV transition is a transition from analog
broadcasting to digital broadcasting. It is not a transition from analog broadcasting to High
Definition broadcasting. Digital broadcasting allows for High Definition broadcasts, but High
Definition is not required, and you do not need to buy a HDTV to watch digital TV. A
Standard Definition DTV (which is simply a TV with an internal digital tuner), or a digital-to-
analog converter box hooked to an analog TV, is all that is required to continue watching
over-the-air broadcast television. Digital broadcast television includes Standard Definition
(SD) and High Definition (HD) formats. You can watch High Definition programming on a
Standard Definition DTV (or on an analog TV hooked to a digital-to-analog converter box), but
it won't be in full High Definition quality. It is also important to know that Standard Definition
DTVs are comparably priced to similar sized analog TVs.

How can I be sure that I am buying a digital TV (DTV)?
By law, beginning March 1, 2007, all television reception devices (including TVs, VCRs, DVRs,
etc.) imported into the U.S. or shipped in interstate commerce must contain a digital tuner.
Retailers may continue to sell analog-only devices from existing inventory, but must
prominently display on or near the analog-only device a Consumer Alert label with this
advisory:
Consumer Alert
This television receiver has only an analog broadcast tuner and will require a converter box
after February 17, 2009, to receive over-the-air broadcasts with an antenna because of the
Nation's transition to digital broadcasting. Analog-only TVs should continue to work as before
with cable and satellite TV services, gaming consoles, VCRs, DVD players, and similar
products. For more information, call the Federal Communications Commission at 1-888-225-
5322 (TTY: 1-888-835-5322) or visit the Commission's digital television website at:
The Digital TV Transition: What You Need to Know About DTV.

Therefore, all television equipment being sold should contain a digital tuner, or should be
identified at the point-of-sale as not having one. Be aware of this label and the limitations of
analog-only devices if you are purchasing a new TV or other TV equipment.


How do I know if I already have a digital TV (DTV)?
Many DTVs and digital television equipment will have labels or markings on them, or
statements in the informational materials that came with them, to indicate that they contain
digital tuners. These labels or markings may contain the words "Integrated Digital Tuner,"
"Digital Tuner Built-In," "Digital Receiver," or "Digital Tuner," "DTV," "ATSC," or "HDTV"
(High Definition television). If your television equipment contains any of these labels or
markings, you should be able to view digital over-the-air programming without the need for a
digital-to-analog converter box. (Remember, you do not need an HDTV to view free over-
the-air digital programming. As long as your television equipment contains a digital tuner,
you can view over-the-air digital. An HDTV is only necessary if you want to view High
Definition programming in full HD quality.) You should also check the manual or any other
materials that came with your television equipment in order to determine whether it contains
a digital tuner.
If your television set is labeled as a "Digital Monitor" or "HDTV Monitor," or as "Digital Ready"
or "HDTV Ready," this does not mean it actually contains a digital tuner. Thus, you still will
likely need a separate set-top box which contains a digital tuner in order to view over-the-air
digital programming.
Over-the-air digital set-top boxes for Digital or HD "Monitors" can be purchased at retail
stores. Cable and satellite TV providers also sell or lease digital set-top boxes for their
specific services. (Note: the digital set-top box described here is not the same as the digital-
to-analog converter box, described above, used to convert free over-the-air digital broadcasts
for viewing on an analog TV set.)
If your television set is labeled as "analog" or "NTSC," and is NOT labeled as containing a
digital tuner, it contains an analog tuner only.
If you cannot determine whether your television set or other television equipment contains a
digital tuner, you are advised to check your equipment for the manufacturer name and model
number, and then contact your consumer electronics retailer, or the manufacturer, to
determine whether it contains a digital tuner. This information also may be available online
through the manufacturer's website.
Because most broadcast stations in all U.S. television markets are already broadcasting in
digital, consumers can watch DTV today. You can contact your local broadcast stations to
determine the channel numbers on which the stations are currently broadcasting digital
programming. You should then ensure that your television is set up to receive over-the-air
programming (as distinguished from being connected to a paid provider such as cable or
satellite TV service), and then tune to the over-the-air digital channels to see if your set can
receive the digital broadcast programming.

What is the difference between "Integrated" DTVs and DTV or HDTV "Monitors"?
An Integrated DTV set is a television with a built-in digital tuner (also referred to as "a DTV").
A digital tuner is also sometimes called a DTV decoder or DTV receiver. If you have an
Integrated DTV, you will not need any additional equipment, with the exception of a
broadcast antenna (either a rooftop antenna or "rabbit ears" connected to the set), to receive
over-the-air digital broadcast programming. Integrated DTVs can also receive and display
analog broadcast programming, so you can continue watching analog broadcasts.
In contrast, a DTV Monitor is not capable of receiving digital broadcast programming without
additional equipment; it is simply a display device without the processing capability for DTV
reception. A digital or HD set-top box must be connected between the antenna and the
monitor to receive and display over-the-air digital or HD programming.
If you have a digital or HD "Monitor" and would like to purchase a digital or HD set-top box to
view over-the-air programming, confirm with your retailer that the set-top box is compatible
with your Monitor.

What about my VCR, DVD player, camcorder, and gaming console? Will I be able to
use them with a digital television set?
Yes. Digital television sets are "backward compatible," meaning existing analog equipment
(VCRs, DVD players, camcorders, video games, etc.) will work on digital TV sets. However,
their video will only be displayed in the maximum resolution that is available with each analog
product. Manufacturers are producing a number of different connectors to hook equipment
together and improve picture and sound quality when DTVs are used with existing analog
equipment. Check with your retailer to determine the types of connectors that will work with
your equipment.

How do I get DTV or HDTV programming?
In order to receive over-the-air digital programming (as opposed to digital programming
provided by a paid provider such as cable or satellite TV service), you will need: (1) a DTV (a
TV with a digital tuner) or an analog TV connected to a digital-to-analog converter box and
(2) a broadcast antenna (either a rooftop antenna or "rabbit ears" connected to your set). In
general, an antenna that provides quality reception of over-the-air analog TV broadcasting
will work for digital TV broadcasting.
A listing of the U.S. TV stations that are broadcasting digital programming is available at
DTV STATIONS ON THE AIR. Satellite TV providers and many
cable systems are currently offering digital programming. Subscribers should check with their
service providers to see what digital programming is available in their area.

Will I need a special antenna to receive DTV over-the-air?
In general, dependable reception of over-the-air digital TV programming will require the same
type of signal reception equipment that currently works to provide good quality reception of
analog TV programming. If you need a roof-top antenna to receive analog TV broadcasts, the
same antenna generally will work to receive digital TV broadcasts. You should not have to
purchase new antennas that are marketed as "digital ready" or "HD ready."

What will happen to the old analog TVs that will be replaced by DTVs? Will there be
an effort to recycle them?
There are recycling programs for those who choose to discard old analog TVs or other old
electronic products (but remember, analog TVs can continue to be used after the transition).
One such program is myGreenElectronics. Through this program you can learn about disposal
options and locate recycling programs near you.
Go to myGreenElectronics for more information.
CABLE AND SATELLITE
Does the DTV transition affect TV sets that are connected to cable services?
No. If you subscribe to cable service, the DTV transition should not affect any TV sets that are
connected to your cable services. The DTV transition applies only to full-power broadcast
television stations – stations that use the public airwaves to transmit their programming to
viewers through a broadcast antenna.
Is the FCC making cable companies switch to digital service?
No. Cable companies are not required to switch to digital service. Cable companies may
choose to make their service all or partly digital, but they are not required to change from the
analog service they offer today. In fact, the FCC requires cable companies to continue to
provide local stations in analog as long as they provide any analog service, even after
February 17, 2009.
Can my cable company make me get a box to receive the cable channels I receive
today without a box?
Some cable companies have decided to switch to digital service. This is a business decision
made by the cable companies and is not required by the federal government. Your cable
company may decide to move certain cable channels off of its analog service tier and onto a
digital service tier, or it may decide to switch to all-digital service at once, so that there is no
analog service tier for any subscribers. If your cable company decides to move some or all of
the channels it provides onto a digital service tier, it may notify you that you need to get
"digital cable" equipment to continue receiving that cable service. This may include renting or
purchasing a digital cable set-top box or purchasing a digital cable ready TV equipped with a
"CableCARD" slot. The digital cable equipment is different from the digital-to-analog converter
boxes that are used to receive over-the-air broadcast signals.
How do I know if I already have digital programming through my cable or satellite
TV service?
You may receive digital programming if you subscribe to a digital or HD package from your
provider and you are viewing the digital programming on a digital set. However, the digital
cable tier and satellite TV service are not necessarily DTV. Your cable or satellite TV system
may be using digital technology as a more efficient way of delivering analog programming to
you. If you have an analog television set, then you are probably not getting digital, even
though the reception may be somewhat improved. Check with your cable or satellite TV
provider to find out what kinds of programming you can receive, and what equipment you
need to receive it.
My cable operator offers a digital cable package. Is this the same as HDTV?
No. "Digital cable" and high definition programming on cable are not the same. If you want to
watch HDTV programming on cable, you will need to subscribe to your cable provider's HDTV
package and view the programming on an HDTV set. You may also need a set-top box or
other equipment to view HDTV programming. Check with your cable provider to find out what
kinds of programming you can receive, and what equipment you need to receive it.
Do cable TV networks, like CNN, MSNBC, Lifetime, etc., have to switch to digital
broadcasting as well?
No. The current requirement to switch from analog to digital only applies to full-power
broadcast TV stations, which use the public airwaves to provide free over-the-air
programming. However, as cable providers convert to digital transmissions over their
systems, you may need to subscribe to their digital tier to continue to receive this non-
broadcast programming.
Can my cable system move programming to a digital tier that makes me subscribe
to digital service?
Your cable system decides when and whether to carry programming on a digital tier, which
may mean that you will need digital equipment. However, all of your local stations will
continue to be available in analog format for as long as your cable system offers any analog
service.
Will cable customers with analog TVs have to buy or rent a set-top box from their
cable company? If so, how much will it cost?
First, it's important to know that the February 17, 2009 deadline for the digital television
transition only applies to full-power broadcast stations. Cable companies are not required by
the government to transition their systems to digital, and can continue to deliver channels to
their customers in analog. Cable companies are actually required by FCC rules to continue
offering local broadcast stations to their customers in analog as long as they offer any analog
service. This requirement will continue for at least three years after February 17, 2009. The
Commission will decide in 2011 whether the requirement should be continued beyond
February 17, 2012. This means that customers who receive analog cable service (without a
cable set-top box) will be able to continue to do so.
However, for business reasons (among other things, digital is much more efficient than
analog), cable companies may be interested in transitioning their systems from analog
delivery to digital delivery. If a cable company makes the business decision to go all-digital
(meaning it will stop offering any channels to its customers in analog), it must ensure that its
analog customers can continue to watch their local broadcast stations. This may require
customers with analog televisions to get a set-top box. If the cable company provides the
customer with a set-top box, any costs related to it will be determined by the cable company.
Therefore, it is recommended that analog cable customers contact their cable company to ask
if a set-top box will be needed, when it will be needed, and if there will be a cost.
It is also important to note that a cable set-top box is different from a digital-to-analog
converter box. A digital-to-analog converter box is necessary only for analog televisions that
receive their programming over-the-air using a rooftop antenna or "rabbit ears" connected to
the set. A digital-to-analog converter box is not necessary for a TV connected to a paid
television service such as a cable or satellite TV provider. Information on any set-top boxes
needed for a paid service such as cable or satellite should be obtained from the service
provider.

Does the DTV Transition affect TV sets connected to satellite TV service?
The DTV transition will not affect satellite TV subscribers who receive their local TV stations
through their satellite dishes. Satellite TV service is a digital service and all satellite
subscribers must have a set-top box connected to their TVs to receive the satellite-delivered
programming. As a result, there should be no change in service for satellite subscribers unless
the local TV stations are not provided by the satellite carrier. If you subscribe to a satellite TV
service, you should check with your provider to find out if you receive a local TV station
package through your satellite dish.

CONVERTER BOX
What is the Converter Box Coupon Program?
To help consumers with the DTV transition, the Government established the Digital-to-Analog
Converter Box Coupon Program. The National Telecommunications and Information
Administration (NTIA), a part of the Department of Commerce, administers this program.
Every U.S. household is eligible to receive up to two coupons, worth $40 each, toward the
purchase of eligible digital-to-analog converter boxes. You will be able to request the coupons
beginning in January of 2008. The coupons may only be used for eligible converter boxes sold
at participating consumer electronics retailers, and the coupons must be used at the time of
purchase. Manufacturers estimate that digital-to-analog converter boxes will sell from $40 to
$70 each. This is a one-time cost. For more information on the Digital-to-Analog Converter
Box Coupon Program, visit the NTIA's website at NTIA: Digital TV Transition and Public Safety, or call 1-888-
388-2009 (voice) or 1-877-530-2634 (TTY).
What digital to analog converter boxes are coupon eligible?
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is maintaining a list
of eligible boxes at http://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm.

Can I hook up more than one TV and video recorder to a single digital-to-analog
converter box?
You will need one digital-to-analog converter box for each TV set or other device (such as a
VCR) that only has an analog tuner. The digital-to-analog converter box basically replaces
the analog tuner in one piece of equipment. So if you want to use your analog TV and VCR at
the same time (for example, to watch one program and record another simultaneously), you
will need two digital-to-analog converter boxes.

Will digital-to-analog converter boxes (used to convert over-the-air digital TV
broadcasts for viewing on analog sets) also convert digital closed captioning?
Yes. FCC rules require that digital-to-analog converter boxes be able to convert over-the-air
digital closed captioning for display on analog TV sets.
See Closed Captioning for Digital Television (DTV)
I have an old antenna that attaches to my TV with two wires. Will I be able to use a
converter box with this antenna?
Yes, but you will need to get two adapters (also called "baluns" or "matching transformers,"
which are pictured below). Unscrew the existing twin-lead antenna wire from your TV
"Antenna In" twin-lead terminals. Attach the existing twin-lead antenna wire to the twin-lead
terminals on the balun (first picture below). Then plug the balun's coaxial connector into the
"Antenna In (RF)" port on the Converter Box. Using coaxial wire, plug one end into the "Out
To TV (RF)" port on the Converter Box. Plug the other end into a second balun (second
picture below). Then attach the second Balun to your TV "Antenna In" twin-lead terminals.


GENERAL QUESTIONS
What about my portable, battery-powered analog TV? Will I be able to use it to
watch broadcast TV after February 17, 2009?
Portable, battery-powered analog TVs may be able to receive over-the-air programming after
February 17, 2009 if they have the inputs necessary to allow them to be connected to a
digital-to-analog converter box. Because it is not anticipated that battery powered digital-to-
analog converter boxes will be produced, an external power source would also be required.

What are low-power (LPTV), Class A, and TV translator stations and how does the
DTV transition affect them?
You may have noticed that Congress mandated that "full-power" TV stations will not be able
to broadcast in analog after February 17, 2009. While the majority of the viewed TV
broadcast stations are full-power stations, three other categories of TV stations exist – "low-
power" stations, "Class A" stations, and "TV translator" stations. There is currently no
deadline for these stations to convert to digital broadcasting.
The FCC created low-power television (LPTV) service in 1982 to provide opportunities for
locally-oriented television service in small communities. These communities may be in rural
areas or may be individual communities within larger urban areas. LPTV stations are operated
by diverse groups and organizations including high schools and colleges, churches and
religious groups, local governments, large and small businesses and individual citizens. More
than 2,100 licensed LPTV stations are in operation. LPTV programming can include satellite-
delivered programming services, syndicated programs, movies, and a wide range of locally-
produced programs.
Class A TV stations are former LPTV stations that have certain interference protection rights
not available to LPTV stations. These stations are technically similar to LPTV stations, but
unlike LPTV stations must air at least three hours of locally-produced programming each week
and comply with most of the non-technical regulations applicable to full-power stations.
Approximately 600 licensed Class A TV stations are in operation.
A TV translator station rebroadcasts the programs of a full-power TV broadcast station.
Translator stations typically serve communities that cannot receive the signals of free over-
the-air TV stations because they are too far away from a full-power TV station or because of
geography (such as uneven terrain or mountains). Many of the 4,700 licensed TV translator
stations operate in mountainous or more remote areas of the country.
There are several ways to determine whether the broadcast stations you view over-the-air
(with a rooftop antenna or "rabbit ears" attached to your TV) are LPTV, Class A or TV
translator stations. Class A stations are required to visually or aurally identify their stations
with their community of license and call sign (that includes the suffix "-CA" for Class A) at
sign on, sign off, and on an hourly basis. LPTV stations also must regularly identify their
station call sign. When locally originating programming, they must visually or aurally identify
their call sign and community of license at sign on, sign off, and hourly. LPTV call signs may
consist of four letters followed by the suffix "-LP" (for low power) or, alternatively, five
characters beginning with the letters K or W followed by two numbers (their operating
channel) and two additional letters. Also, some TV translators are identified by the full-power
TV stations whose signals they rebroadcast. Further, LPTV, Class A, and TV translator stations
may regularly broadcast information as to their status, and may include information regarding
the DTV transition.
While the February 17, 2009 deadline for ending analog broadcasts does not apply to low-
power, Class A, and TV translator stations, the FCC will require these stations to convert to
digital broadcasting some time thereafter. Nearly 2,000 of these stations have been
authorized to construct digital facilities and some are broadcasting in digital already. The FCC
is currently considering the remaining issues involved with the low-power digital transition
and will make decisions regarding these stations in the future.
If you have an analog-only television that receives free over-the-air programming (with a
roof-top antenna or "rabbit ears" on the TV), you will need to purchase a digital-to-analog
converter box in order to watch digital broadcast television. Each U.S. household is eligible to
receive two $40 coupons to be used toward the purchase of two digital-to-analog converter
boxes. The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is
administering the coupon program. More information can be found at www.dtv2009.gov, or
by calling 1-888-388-2009 (voice) or 1-877-530-2634 (TTY).
If you purchase a digital-to-analog converter box to watch digital broadcasts on an analog TV
and also wish to continue watching analog LPTV, Class A, or TV translator stations, you should
purchase a converter box with "analog pass-through" capability, which allows analog
broadcast signals to pass through the converter box to be tuned by your analog TV. NTIA's
TV Converter Box Coupon Program has certified converter box models that have analog pass-
through capability. A current list of coupon-eligible converter boxes is available at
NTIA: Digital TV Transition and Public Safety. The converter box models that have
analog pass-through capability are noted on the list with an asterisk next to them. In
addition, NTIA will mail a list of current coupon-eligible converter boxes, noting with an
asterisk those that have analog pass-through capability, to each household that receives
converter box coupons. You can also check with your retailer to determine whether the
converter box you are purchasing has analog pass-through capability.
If you purchase a digital-to-analog converter box without analog pass-through capability, you
may have to connect an antenna switch or a signal "splitter" to bypass the box if you wish to
view analog TV broadcasts. Check with the manufacturer of the digital-to-analog converter
box and your retailer if you need instructions on how to connect the box to view broadcasts
from both analog and digital stations.
Viewers should look for information from their LPTV, Class A, and TV translator stations about
plans to convert from analog to digital broadcasting. Viewers should also visit Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Home Page for
any updates on the digital transition of low-power, Class A, and TV translator stations.
What are my options for watching over-the air analog TV broadcasts from
LPTV or translator stations after the digital transition?

To watch analog LPTV and translator station broadcasts received through an antenna, you can take one or more of the following actions:

• Keep an analog TV connected to a broadcast antenna to view analog LPTV
and translator station broadcasts.
• Purchase a digital-to-analog converter box that has analog pass-through
capability. For a current list of digital-to-analog converter boxes that have
been certified by NTIA as eligible for the TV Converter Box Coupon
Program, click on www.ntiadtv.com/cecb_list.cfm and look for the boxes with
the asterisk (*) next to them. Analog pass-through allows you to watch
analog television broadcasts as well as digital television broadcasts through
the converter box.
• Purchase a digital-to-analog converter box without analog pass-through
capability, and then connect a "splitter" or antenna switch to receive both
analog and digital broadcasts. Check with your consumer electronics retailer
if you need instructions on how to connect the box to view broadcasts from
both analog and digital stations.
• Purchase a digital television set. A television with a built-in digital tuner can
receive both analog and digital stations, so you will be able to watch both
digital programming and analog LPTV and translator station programming for
as long as these stations continue to broadcast in analog.
• Subscribe to a cable television or other pay service that carries the analog
station(s) you want to watch.​

:!: Will I be able to use parental controls like the V-chip with digital TV the same way I
now can with my analog TV? Yes. The V-chip is a technology that enables parents to block television programming based
on a program's rating. The ratings are encoded within the television signal. The V-chip reads
the encoded rating information of each program and blocks shows according to the parents'
blocking selections. FCC rules require that V-chips be built into digital televisions and other
DTV reception devices just as they are in analog televisions.
You can learn about the ratings
system, also known as "TV Parental Guidelines," at FCC V-Chip
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this has been discussed. if you subscribe to locals, the ratings will be recognized and vchip will work. if you do not subscribe to locals, the rating will be unrecognized, and if you have vchip enabled, it will work and block the show, in fact it will block all shows. this still keeps the receiver in compliance with the vchip rule. The dishnetwork vip receiver is a paytv reciever. it is not a receiver on the govt coupon for the dtv conversion, nor is it the internal tuner in a new tv.

technically, even the new tvs and the govt approved settop boxes would be fcc compliant for the vchip providing it blocked every show it was unable to dertermine the rating on.
Derwin0
this has been discussed. if you subscribe to locals, the ratings will be recognized and vchip will work. if you do not subscribe to locals, the rating will be unrecognized, and if you have vchip enabled, it will work and block the show, in fact it will block all shows. this still keeps the receiver in compliance with the vchip rule. The dishnetwork vip receiver is a paytv reciever. it is not a receiver on the govt coupon for the dtv conversion, nor is it the internal tuner in a new tv.

technically, even the new tvs and the govt approved settop boxes would be fcc compliant for the vchip providing it blocked every show it was unable to dertermine the rating on.
True, all the "Digital Local" listings are rated AO (Adults Only).
reddice
Plus Dish Networks rating system is pathetic at best. The worse of the worse. All they use is movie ratings and NR/AO ratings and do a terrible job at it. Cable and DirecTV actually use the TV Ratings so the V-Chip thing would work. When is Dish going to get out of the 90's and actually update their receivers with the TV Ratings.
Hall
Why is this in the Dish forum ? Move it to the OTA forum.....
M
moved :)

and I have no idea why he decided to post the whole freaking thing from the DTV site...a snippet at the end with a link would have been suffice
Hall
He is on an anti-Dish rant anyway.... Probably why it was posted in the Dish forum.
dishstaller
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Jimbo
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
AZ.
AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

.
But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Jimbo
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.



But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
No, no ... if you want to make the playoffs, you want to Win it ... If you want to Win it, you need to Win 4-5 games in a row against Top 10 teams for the most part, theres a Possibility you'd play someone out side of the Top 10, but not much.

The Playoffs is a 4-5 game Win or Go Home.
DialgaChampion
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
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HipKat
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You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub
DialgaChampion
You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub

Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?
HipKat
Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?
Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required
LQQK
Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?
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DialgaChampion
Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?

No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.
SandFarmer
Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.
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Bobby
Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.
You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....
SandFarmer
You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....
Yup. Been there done that many times over the past 29 years. Since not having it, I have found better and cheaper ways to get what little programming in need from it.

Just wondering how far down I can strip down all the gear on my chimney.

The 129 J-Arm grew an Outdoor Long Range AP. I already have several unused RJ lines that are going to be IPoE from the rack. Just wondering how much gear I'm going to be able to put up there.

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DialgaChampion
Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required
Yep just swap the lnb with a dpp lnb and connect the 42 switch.

Finally got around to trying to set everything up. Need some help because I've got an issue.

1st Hopper 3 works fine.

2nd Hopper 3 doesn't show any channels in my Top 200 package in the guide, even though it's set to All Subscribed. But it does see the 1st Hopper 3 and can access the recordings on it.

Here's my setup:
  • DPP EA 61.5/72 LNB on the dish. 2 Coaxes going from LNB into the DPH42 switch.
  • DPH42 "Receiver 1" port > Power Inserter "To Switch" port..... Power Inserter "To Receiver" port > Duo Hub "ODU 1" port.
  • DPH42 "Receiver 2" port > Duo Hub "ODU 2" port.
  • 2 Coaxes from both Host ports on the Duo Hub into both Hopper 3s.
I've spent the last few hours troubleshooting, no success. I did the Test Installation on the Diagnostics screen. Red button. Held Power Button for 15 seconds.

Also tried several different configurations with the coax cables according to Google's AI suggestions. Tried connecting both a Solo Hub and a Duo Hub (I don't have 2 solo hubs at the moment), having each Hopper connected to each hub independently. Tried connecting Receiver 2 from the DPH42 directly into the 2nd Hopper 3. Tried having the Power Inserter connected both before and after the hub.

I even checked my account online. Both Hopper 3s are authorized and "Powered" on the account. Even tried "Wake Up Receivers". That second H3 still won't show my channels in the guide at all.

According to Google's AI, it thinks this is the problem:
  • - When you plug two Hopper 3 units into a single Duo Hub, the hub cannot allocate the correct satellite transponder frequencies to both boxes simultaneously.
  • - As a result, the first Hopper 3 hogs the satellite line, while the second Hopper 3 gets locked out of the satellite signal entirely—causing an empty guide and blocking live TV. The unlinked status on the whole-home screen occurs because the software recognizes the conflict and stops integration.
But none of its solutions have worked. Any ideas?
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Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment
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DialgaChampion
Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment

Check Status complete. No issues found.
Test Installation screen shows green checks for 61.5 and 72, all 16 tuners.
Options > TV Activity shows 1 of 16 tuners in use.

When I bring up the program guide, the dish scapes channel appears and displays fine. The guide also shows the bonusview channels, and the stream and ppv channels.

I tried swapping the 2nd H3's cables with the 1st H3 and having it as the only H3 connected. It still has the same issue, so it seems isolated to the second Hopper 3 itself.

There was another suggestion from Google, not sure if it applies:

If the TV Activity Screen shows that your tuners are "Available" and "1 of 16 in use," your satellite signal path is 100% active and perfectly working. Your hardware wiring bypass has officially succeeded—the second Hopper 3 is successfully talking to the DPH42 switch, receiving high-frequency satellite data, and its internal processors are healthy. Because the hardware is fully operational, the fact that your screen is still black and the guide is missing means your receiver is stuck in Account Quarantine (Authorization Hold). Because a dual Hopper 3 system requires a non-standard account setup (32 tuners instead of the typical 16-tuner cap), standard "Wake Up" hits sent from the customer app or website are getting rejected by the system. The box can look at the data stream (which is why tuners show as available), but it is legally blocked by the internal software from decoding the live video feeds. To flip the switch and activate the live video feed, a DISH billing agent must manually push a tier-3 service re-hit through their legacy terminal.​

Any thoughts?
S
No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.
Why not upgrade to the joey 4 with is an android box and dump the 4k joey
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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While always entertaining....I hope you guys recognize that the child molesters they arrested in this video were STRICTLY due to tips from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. I strongly suggest that you go to their website and support them. They are the ONLY entity that is trying to curb all the perverts out there. And yes...if you want to have sex or see someone have sex with a minor you ARE a pervert.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swYXp9x5bag&t=911s
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M
· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Throwing It All Away - Genesis
dishstaller
All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics
gms49ers
Sweet Miracle - Rush
long_time_Dish
Sweet Baby James - James Taylor
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JSheridan
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
S
ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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BradleyD
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
S
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
S
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
can you DVR every channel now or is still only certain ones you can DVR
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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FTA4PA
R.I.P.
M
R.I.P.
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
dfergie
R.I.P. …
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Foxbat
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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