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I have several things going on here so bear with me.
My setup: Coolsat 6000 with a BSC621. Using an analog HTS receiver as a mover. The actuator is a 24" HTS. I get between 5 & 6 counts per degree of movement. There is a bit of slack - especially on my southern sats (where the dish is balancing it's weight on the mount - any bit of wind will really affect the quality readings. But, as long as I'm past that breaking point, the weight of this dish takes care of this problem.
First off, I've spent the last 2 days getting my south alignment correct. I'm now getting high quality all the way across the belt. My current range is 65 to 125 (could be more if I had a 36" actuator!) I've managed to get quality readings in the high 90s all across. So I feel like I'm about as aligned as I can get.
(think I've said before how the digital stuff has me relearning everything I thought I knew about dish alignment!)
Now- the questions:
1. On the CoolSat, there was no sat entry for 89. I used one of the blank sats at the end of the list for it. I guess this works OK since I get Pentagon, etc. ok there, but, where's more info on how to get the latest maps on this thing (I have never dealt with one of these before.)
2. The BSC621 - there isn't an alignment arrow on it, but there is a 30...0...30 scale. I currently have the 0 aligned at 9:00 with the C-lnb at around the 5:00(ish) point, BUT, based on the CoolSat, it appears I'm 90 degrees out. For instance - KBZT on 123 is in THE LIST as 12114V 4340 but the CoolSat shows it at 11.964H 4.340, so what gives there? Another example that really seems weird to me is Pentagon on 89 - THE LIST: 4060H 28000, CoolSat 10.840V 28.000 - I'm confused...
3. I've already seen another thread on this one... Ku on 123... AHHHH!! I get KBZT, WAQT, etc in the mid to high 90s for quality, but I can't hit anything on the other TPs... what is going on with that? Are those other TPs a lot weaker? I know I can go with a smaller dish for the Ku (as I've done that elsewhere) but I just can't make sense of why it's not working on the 10ft'r.
Is there a way on the CoolSat for me to key in the specs of a channel so I can adjust the dish and feedhorn until I get a signal? I haven't found any way to do that...
Help?
My setup: Coolsat 6000 with a BSC621. Using an analog HTS receiver as a mover. The actuator is a 24" HTS. I get between 5 & 6 counts per degree of movement. There is a bit of slack - especially on my southern sats (where the dish is balancing it's weight on the mount - any bit of wind will really affect the quality readings. But, as long as I'm past that breaking point, the weight of this dish takes care of this problem.
First off, I've spent the last 2 days getting my south alignment correct. I'm now getting high quality all the way across the belt. My current range is 65 to 125 (could be more if I had a 36" actuator!) I've managed to get quality readings in the high 90s all across. So I feel like I'm about as aligned as I can get.
(think I've said before how the digital stuff has me relearning everything I thought I knew about dish alignment!)
Now- the questions:
1. On the CoolSat, there was no sat entry for 89. I used one of the blank sats at the end of the list for it. I guess this works OK since I get Pentagon, etc. ok there, but, where's more info on how to get the latest maps on this thing (I have never dealt with one of these before.)
2. The BSC621 - there isn't an alignment arrow on it, but there is a 30...0...30 scale. I currently have the 0 aligned at 9:00 with the C-lnb at around the 5:00(ish) point, BUT, based on the CoolSat, it appears I'm 90 degrees out. For instance - KBZT on 123 is in THE LIST as 12114V 4340 but the CoolSat shows it at 11.964H 4.340, so what gives there? Another example that really seems weird to me is Pentagon on 89 - THE LIST: 4060H 28000, CoolSat 10.840V 28.000 - I'm confused...
3. I've already seen another thread on this one... Ku on 123... AHHHH!! I get KBZT, WAQT, etc in the mid to high 90s for quality, but I can't hit anything on the other TPs... what is going on with that? Are those other TPs a lot weaker? I know I can go with a smaller dish for the Ku (as I've done that elsewhere) but I just can't make sense of why it's not working on the 10ft'r.
Is there a way on the CoolSat for me to key in the specs of a channel so I can adjust the dish and feedhorn until I get a signal? I haven't found any way to do that...
Help?
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First let me 
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next maybe a mod can break this off to its own thread
and i would remove your e-mail
several things i noted
your using a BSC-621 to feed several units ( dsr 410 X 3 + a 4dtv)
the bsc-621 is designed for one unit meaning that all these units can only use on polarity ( usually channel ) at a time. so if several units want to watch different channels they will interfere with each other trying to change the polarity unless you have the splitter that doesn't alow power passing on all the extra receivers. but they wouls still have to watch what the first ( primary ) unit is watching ( same polarity ). if all the units are trying to control the polarity then you might have a problem.
next you didn't explain how the c-band & ku bands are sent to the units. since you only talk about one coax X 100 ft , i take it to mean that you are running both c & ku through the same coax and you are using the built in 22k of the bsc621.
next amplification - this will amplify everything to include noise .... if you are getting good signal at one receiver .... the problem is elsewhere.
next rg11 -- this is usually used for long runs ... since you have good signal at one unit you won't be able to increase signal strength, just decrease signal loss so the problem is either your splitter or other run of coax... check all connections & your splitter.
you to the group next maybe a mod can break this off to its own thread
and i would remove your e-mail several things i noted
your using a BSC-621 to feed several units ( dsr 410 X 3 + a 4dtv)
the bsc-621 is designed for one unit meaning that all these units can only use on polarity ( usually channel ) at a time. so if several units want to watch different channels they will interfere with each other trying to change the polarity unless you have the splitter that doesn't alow power passing on all the extra receivers. but they wouls still have to watch what the first ( primary ) unit is watching ( same polarity ). if all the units are trying to control the polarity then you might have a problem.
next you didn't explain how the c-band & ku bands are sent to the units. since you only talk about one coax X 100 ft , i take it to mean that you are running both c & ku through the same coax and you are using the built in 22k of the bsc621.
next amplification - this will amplify everything to include noise .... if you are getting good signal at one receiver .... the problem is elsewhere.
next rg11 -- this is usually used for long runs ... since you have good signal at one unit you won't be able to increase signal strength, just decrease signal loss so the problem is either your splitter or other run of coax... check all connections & your splitter.
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Thanks for that info. However, The antenna is parked on W5 and the first initial setup is with the 4DTV and 3 dsr 410. The other 3 DSR 410 to be installed at a leter date.
Can I use regular C-Band LNBs with a Multi Switch? Will that config work with the DSr 410?
I'm not using KU Band.
First let me
next maybe a mod can break this off to its own thread
several things i noted
your using a BSC-621 to feed several units ( dsr 410 X 3 + a 4dtv)
the bsc-621 is designed for one unit meaning that all these units can only use on polarity ( usually channel ) at a time. so if several units want to watch different channels they will interfere with each other trying to change the polarity unless you have the splitter that doesn't alow power passing on all the extra receivers. but they wouls still have to watch what the first ( primary ) unit is watching ( same polarity ). if all the units are trying to control the polarity then you might have a problem.
next you didn't explain how the c-band & ku bands are sent to the units. since you only talk about one coax X 100 ft , i take it to mean that you are running both c & ku through the same coax and you are using the built in 22k of the bsc621.
next amplification - this will amplify everything to include noise .... if you are getting good signal at one receiver .... the problem is elsewhere.
next rg11 -- this is usually used for long runs ... since you have good signal at one unit you won't be able to increase signal strength, just decrease signal loss so the problem is either your splitter or other run of coax... check all connections & your splitter.
Thanks for that info. However, The antenna is parked on W5 and the first initial setup is with the 4DTV and 3 dsr 410. The other 3 DSR 410 to be installed at a leter date.
Can I use regular C-Band LNBs with a Multi Switch? Will that config work with the DSr 410?
I'm not using KU Band.
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.
I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hi all, I recently inherited a FTA system off Craiglist and have been trying to get it set up. What I got was a Glorystar-branded ~90cm offset dish with a ground mount (/flat roof) frame, and GEOSATpro DSR200c receiver. From that initial equipment, I've replaced the old LNBF with a (cheap!) new one and also splurged on an SG-2100 H-H motorized rotor which does respond from the receiver's USALS menu.
The previous owner had it set up for religious programming on Galaxy 19 and I've been trying to start by finding that same bird at least. After a couple sessions I'm not sure I have, but I've found *something* at least! A handful of motor ticks further than the dish wants to be for 97W after starting from motor 0 pointing as much south as I can guess at. (I don't have great references to aim for and it's really hard to sight where exactly the dish is pointing anyway….)
Anyway, so far there's only one transponder that I've ever been able to catch as I search. It's 12146 V and when the receiver scans it I get this list of video channels:
but it's a long-winded spiel about "you know us as an industry-leading satellite solutions provider with over a quarter million sites" and to call them For All Your Every Needs™ type thing.
While I get little blips from other frequencies, this is the only strong transponder I've been able to come across. My receiver shows it as S 75 and Q up to 85 when I adjust it. It actually seemed to get better as I **un**skewed my LBNF — iiuc G19 was supposed to be -20º for me but however I'm supposed to be reading/referencing the angles the puck is now basically at 0º relative to the dish/arm got the strongest on this transponder.
Anyway sorry this is so long winded already… my question is, do I even have the right satellite? None of the other transponders that are supposed to be active on G-19 seem to come in. And if not the right satellite does anyone happen to recognize which one I might have found instead? I think knowing that would help me then adjust for a truer south aim and then hopeful the USALS will work automatically once I can get it dialed in.
The previous owner had it set up for religious programming on Galaxy 19 and I've been trying to start by finding that same bird at least. After a couple sessions I'm not sure I have, but I've found *something* at least! A handful of motor ticks further than the dish wants to be for 97W after starting from motor 0 pointing as much south as I can guess at. (I don't have great references to aim for and it's really hard to sight where exactly the dish is pointing anyway….)
Anyway, so far there's only one transponder that I've ever been able to catch as I search. It's 12146 V and when the receiver scans it I get this list of video channels:
- 1.1 Srv_1
- 2.84 OU_Chan
- 3.2 Srv_2
- 4.5 Srv_5
- 5.3 Srv_3
- 6.4 Srv_4
- 7.6 Srv_6
- 8.7 Srv_7
but it's a long-winded spiel about "you know us as an industry-leading satellite solutions provider with over a quarter million sites" and to call them For All Your Every Needs™ type thing.While I get little blips from other frequencies, this is the only strong transponder I've been able to come across. My receiver shows it as S 75 and Q up to 85 when I adjust it. It actually seemed to get better as I **un**skewed my LBNF — iiuc G19 was supposed to be -20º for me but however I'm supposed to be reading/referencing the angles the puck is now basically at 0º relative to the dish/arm got the strongest on this transponder.
Anyway sorry this is so long winded already… my question is, do I even have the right satellite? None of the other transponders that are supposed to be active on G-19 seem to come in. And if not the right satellite does anyone happen to recognize which one I might have found instead? I think knowing that would help me then adjust for a truer south aim and then hopeful the USALS will work automatically once I can get it dialed in.
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Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.
Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.
Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!
I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.
Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on
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beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W. It has at least 2 DVB-S transponders with SD/Mpeg2 channelsDone and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.
Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.
Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!
I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.
Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on
No luck finding this one. I motor over and it seems like a pretty dead spot of sky. I did get a slight blip (Q up to 1% or 2%) if I lowered the dish slightly. So I wonder if my polar mount itself maybe needs a bit of fine tuning?
Even when loosening the bolts and manually nudging the dish up/down/left/right nothing seemed to really wake it [new receiver, see below!] up and never saw anything more than 4% or 5% which I don't know is even real or could have been just noise?
I'm in Washington state (northwest CONUS) so this one's not an option for me.
I now have a V8 Finder 2
I've been able to scan in more now on G-19, and as well as watching the ad on SES 1 and getting some PBS stations there and G-16 both. So three satellites kinda in the general vicinity of each other (97W/101W/99.1W) programmed and able to rotate between.
Is G-18 at 123W as strong as the others? According to Satbeams I should be at least somewhat in its footprint although it looks like it's maybe focused more on Alaska.
Now that I'm back at my computer waiting for the Finder to charge back up looks like the Eutelsat(s) 117W have a couple Ku transponders I could look for too.
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