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BACKGROUND:

So my Motorola RAZR is 2 years old, which means the carefully designed in obsolescence has kicked in. The battery sorely needs replacement, and the outside screen no longer works.

Of course, I went to the amazing dot com place to see about ordering a new battery. Plenty of such batteries for $5-$10, but apparently they are all counterfeits. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. IIRC the Cingular- ah, uh, err- the AT&T store online "might" have it available for a price a bit over $40. I think Motorola no longer has such batteries available. Other places online showed "unavailable" or had no listing.

I went to a local AT&T store. Not a franchise shop, a real, corporate operated AT&T store.

Side note: For a couple years, I carried around an iPAQ 3850 PDA. Stopped because it was too bulky & I looked ridiculous with a phone and a PDA on my belt.


THE iPHONE

I looked over a few phones there, as the place was a little crowded. When my chance at a sales critter arose, I took it. I told the guy I wanted a PDA phone, since I really missed some PDA functions. I forget exactly why, but we quickly narrowed down to the iPhone 3G.

I was looking for something that would sync with my Outlook calendar. I also wanted something that could at least read a small Excel spreadsheet, and preferably allow some editing (adding a line comprised of 3 or 4 columns). Some minimal word processing was assumed. I wasn't too interested in music, or much online stuff (although I admitted if I had it, I would use it). The only way I'd hit email on it would be via web mail. The calculator I saw was fine. Being able to read some news, perhaps via RSS subs, would be nice. Reading an e-book or magazine was desired but not an absolute requirement. A bookmarkable audio book would be nice.

I'm on a 3 phone family plan, paying just over $100 per month. Sales Critter said I'd pay an additional $30 per month, no more, for unlimited service, including internet and all data services.

I walked out of the store with an 8GB iPhone. He set up my BT headset for me.


THE DREAM SOURS


I later learned he thought spreadsheets were a part of Outlook. Ungood.

I discovered, much to my shock, that the iPhone does not support voice dialing. My Motorolas and Nokias do. Or, did. Well, that is a VERY BIG drawback for me, but, maybe I could do without.

I couldn't find anything supporting spreadsheets.

No real word processing, just a very minimalist "Notes." Might be good enough for a grocery list.

Called the store with questions and went thru a voicemail system that eventually hung up on me. Drove over. Asked questions. Ungood answers. Had me call, in store (I think they wanted to know the answers too) to Customer Service. CS Verified no SS support (although maybe something about reading an email attachment) and no known 3rd party product for that. No voice dialing feature, and there will never be a 3rd party solution because the phone simply cannot support it.

The idiot guide online is of almost no use. The PDF is better, but not great- at least of what I've seen of it so far. Mapping is slow and I'm not too sure how useful it would be, but frankly that's not what I was looking for, so any functionality in that area is lagniappe.

Camera seems nice enough, overall interface is nice. The "App Store" seems to connect about half the time, although I'm in a strong signal area.

Can't move over my "Riverdance" ring tone from my Motorola. It seems I must go to the iTunes store, buy some music, and they'll convert it into a ring tone for me. DK if they have Riverdance, but I doubt it. And I must do this from a PC!

iTunes button doesn't work except on wifi. I assume it will dl music and little else.

Still need to reset weather to local area. Weather and time default to Cupertino.

I did visit SatGuys using it, and learned to double tap to make the print just large enough to read, with reading glasses on top of my bifocal contact lenses. PDA mode helped.

Actually, I was expecting too much from the store- they sell the product but are not experts on it. I was referred to certain Apple Stores in the area. Where I should call and schedule an appointment in order to be ushered in to their august presence, and where I might get some answers. You'd think I was asking for an appointment with Bill Gates.


THE QUESTIONS

Those of you familiar with the iPhone or any "smart" phone- does what I'm looking for exist? Too much to expect?

Is there any way to at least read a small Excel SS on the iPhone?

Is the sync with Outlook truly functional, to where I can read, and dare I say it, "add" or "edit" calendar entries?

Just how useful is the "Notes" function?

Any knowledge about eBooks or audio books?


I can return it for a 10% restocking fee. But then I'd still need a phone, since the RAZR is dying and it's battery is almost dead (& I may or may not be able to buy a genuine replacement). If I should return it, is there a phone that will do what I need, or is it back to a phone and a separate PDA? Maybe a new, smaller, PDA?
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Is there any way to at least read a small Excel SS on the iPhone?
You should be able to read a spreadsheet but not edit it. I am not famiiar with the app mentioned, but go for it. Windows Mobile is the only platform that lets you edit Excel spreadsheets in native form. However, most screens are very small, and the phone functions are far less than the PC functions.[/quote]

Is the sync with Outlook truly functional, to where I can read, and dare I say it, "add" or "edit" calendar entries?
If you have an Exchange Server you can do everything on the iPhone you can do from your PC desktop, including manage and sync email, contacts and appointments. What changes on your iPhone changes on your Exchange server and vice versa. What's missing is Tasks -- a notable omission, IMHO. Blackberry and Windows Mobile enable you to do all, plus allow you to seamlessly turn emails into calendar appointments. You need to have a Microsoft Exchange server account with some provider (generally about $15 a month). Blackberry capability requires a BB Enterprise account (generally a small add-on from your Exchange server host), plus Blackberry BES service from your wireless provider.[/quote]


Just how useful is the "Notes" function?
Nowhere near as usable as Windows Mobile and Blackberry. The iPhone also has as lot of catching up to do to come up with a desktop app that shows your messages, appointments, tasks and notes at a glance, the way Windows Mobile and, to some extent, Blackberry do.

Any knowledge about eBooks or audio books?
None. Sorry.

Bottom line:
Windows Mobile would be the perfect platform if it had: way faster speeds; sharper and more colorful screen and the ability to be seen outdoors; and far greater stability. Because it doesn't yet, I can't give it a hardy recommendation. My experience with Windows Mobile was I got more frustrated about the lack of all those than about what it could do.

Blackberry is far more seamless than Windows Mobile but it lacks some of the attributes, including a lousy browser. Desktop integration also is awkward, and the BES fee for full on-the-go integration is extortionate. However, BB phones are consistently well-made and very stable, they give superb reception and control over the phone individuality, and the newest model, available from Verizon soon, is supposed to be able to give you better editing access to Office docs, a touch screen and a better browser.

IPhone: I use one because I work with a developer. I have found the web browser far over anything else's, and the ease of use and stunning screen graphics is without peer. The reception is quite good where AT&T signal is strong. (There are a few places in Des Moines where it isn't; grrrrrr.) And it is wi-fi capable, which is a big plus considering how slow AT&T is to roll out its 3G network. Its minuses are as I described, plus no external memory or removable battery. But if there's one thing you can count on from Apple, it is they are quick to respond to consumer demand, and I wouldn't be surprised if firmware upgrades in the months to come address some of these concerns.

So . . .

If you need a PC in your pocket, go for the Windows Mobile phone, and be prepared to reset it several times a day. If you want greater business functionality, don't care about paying more for it, and don't mind that it speaks business and not friendliness, go for the Blackberry. If you want some of what's good now and want to gamble that Apple will come thru for its phone the way it's come thru for its other consumer enterprises, go with the iPhone.
thowe21
The other app you might want to check out in the App store is "Air Sharing". It allows you to sync with your computer and save various files (Word, Excel etc..) to your iPhone. (Note: Viewing only- no editing allowed)
bowens
As for eBooks, check out a free app called "Stanza" http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284956128&mt=8. Download that and then the desktop version, then you can add books to the desktop (.txt, .html, etc) and then download them to the phone from the iPhone app.

The iPhone handles audiobooks exceptionally well. It will remember previous place. I have listened to quite a few books on mine.
harshness
As much as it might sound like heresy between the iPhone and WinMob, the Palm OS based phones might be an option. There is support for most document formats as well as PDFs.
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My MotoQ seems to do what you've asked for. I can't believe that the Almighty iPhone would not surpass my old antiquated MotoQ in all areas of usability and such :( I like my simple, usable, and cheap old motoQ.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.