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brad880

Last reply Feb 2, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Leased Receiver Fees

Customer service is taking a hard line on the leased receiver fee for the FIRST receiver on an account. I called to change my base programming and asked them to remove the leased receiver fee (I only have one receiver). They said they couldn't because I was grandfathered into that receiver promotion that charged the leased receiver fee on the first receiver... What???

I had to go to retentions to get it removed... Whats the deal with that?

BTW I'm not under contract.

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MikeD-C05

Feb 2, 2009

That's our CHARLIE! The king of cable like FEES!

The more he can charge the more he likes it. That is why we have;

The wonderful DVR fee $5.98 PER dvr RECEIVER!

The additional receiver fees -highest in the sat industry: 6.00 for sd and 7.00 for hd receivers.

The hd enabeling fee -Now reduced to just $5.00!

Oh and lets not forget the no phone line connection fee for a low, low price of $5.00 a month.

Extra fees you can expect : $39.99 for external hard drives for the 612/622/722 dvrs and a separate $39.99 for external hard drives for the 211/211k receivers. That's right ! Even if you have both on your account ,you still pay TWICE!!

And remember folks with DISH you pay more than either DIRECTV or cable for your pay per views. If you have an hd receiver and you want just a regular pay per view it will be $4.99/ HD version $5.99. Now if you want the convenient pre recorded pay per views on DISH portion of your hard drive it will be $5.99 for sd and $6.99 for hd movies.

THe best part / saddest part is that DISH is still cheaper ,yes cheaper for regular programming packs than the competition. Its the extra fees where DISH racks up the $$$$ and kill you.

DISH the home of extra FEES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

StanUbankit

Feb 2, 2009

brad880 said:
Customer service is taking a hard line on the leased receiver fee for the FIRST receiver on an account. I called to change my base programming and asked them to remove the leased receiver fee (I only have one receiver). They said they couldn't because I was grandfathered into that receiver promotion that charged the leased receiver fee on the first receiver... What???

I had to go to retentions to get it removed... Whats the deal with that?

BTW I'm not under contract.

brad880: did retention remove the fee? I'm going thru the same thing, trying to get the $7 lease fee removed on the only rec (622) on my acct; I got the 622 (under the dishing it up plan) in July 2006, so I figgered they've recouped their investment since I've been paying the lease fee for 2 1/2 years. My story is that to get the fee waived dish is doing a swap; they are sending me a replacement 622 (via ups) and I'll return my leased 622. I had tried to get the fee removed thru the phone, no luck, so I sent an email to the ceo address. I think it's pretty screwy that they can't just drop the lease fee but I'll play the game to save $84 + tax for a year. I did find out when viewing your acct online, on the menu there is a heading called "orders"; I clicked on it and it shows the replacement rec was shipped on 1/30, with a link to the ups tracking #. Now I'm hoping that I don't get someone else's defective 622

; well actually I'm thinking it would be nice to get a 722

. My email said the "back office department" wouldn't waive the fee outright, that's the reason for the swap (upgrade). Boy, that hurts my feelings

Stargazer

Feb 2, 2009

That's so screwed up that they have to swap the 622 for another one just to get the $7 fee removed. Something is very wrong with a company that has to do it that way. Their computer system must not be setup correctly to remove fees. At least you get an updated 622 but if your current one is working fine and you get your refurb it might start causing you lots of issues, swap it for another one once again and it start giving you problems as well.

Don't forget, you will lose all of the recordings on your hard drive and have to redo all of your timers unless you have an external hard drive. You can go ahead and buy one but its $39.99 for the privelidge to do so. Maybe you can get it waived by telling them that you want to transfer your recordings.

brad880

Feb 2, 2009

Retentions did remove the fee and indicated there was no reason for the fee being on my account. I asked them why the regular cust service reps were basically lying to customers when their own website is clear on this subject that the first leased receiver fee is included with your basic programming package and she didn't have an answer.

I should have mentioned that the service rep couldn't do basic math either. My contract went from Jan 2007 thru Jan 2009. The dude was convinced that was only 1 year and I still had another year left. Go figure.

StanUbankit

Feb 2, 2009

Stargazer said:
That's so screwed up that they have to swap the 622 for another one just to get the $7 fee removed. Something is very wrong with a company that has to do it that way. Their computer system must not be setup correctly to remove fees. At least you get an updated 622 but if your current one is working fine and you get your refurb it might start causing you lots of issues, swap it for another one once again and it start giving you problems as well.

Don't forget, you will lose all of the recordings on your hard drive and have to redo all of your timers unless you have an external hard drive. You can go ahead and buy one but its $39.99 for the privelidge to do so. Maybe you can get it waived by telling them that you want to transfer your recordings.

Yeah, I agree it's a pita. I suppose I can see their point, the only legal way to do away with the lease fee is to close that contract out
(since that was what I signed up for in July 2006, and that's what the contract said), do an "upgrade", then I'll be covered under the current agreement, which says the first receiver on the acct doesn't have a lease fee. Two other points, I didn't have to commit (am out of contract), and the no fee for the first receiver is good for 12 months, after that I'll hafta contact the executive branch

again to get it waived for another 12 months. Maybe they figger I'll forget by then

. I don't have the ehd option, thought about it and to me it's not worth the $40. Got most of the recordings watched or deleted, no biggie on anything that's left unwatched. This just goes to show that businesses don't do anything to accomodate their existing customers, just want the new ones to sign up

Looking at the acct online, it shows a $50 upgrade charge, then a -$50 credit for that charge.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 11 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

16 minutes ago

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

11 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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reubenray

18 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 19 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 19 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

20 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

19 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

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Gary Toma

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Last reply 57 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

57 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee