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I took some time off from redeploying my dishes to look over a nagging problem I had called USALS. Last year I tossed a 1.2 m GEOSATpro on the roof with a PowerTech DG-380 motor. It was easy to tweak and I soon had it tracking the Clarke belt over the motor's range.
My true south is about 105 degrees, allowing me to get most of the Ku action not too far off-center. From the beginning I noticed when using my Pansat 9200HD, the farther I drove the dish from center in either direction, the greater the in-track error in positioning. In fact both east and west errors were about the same for similar offsets, with the Pansat always driving the dish not quite far enough. I realized this might simply be accumulating mechanical errors in the motor, but the consistency was concerning. In reality this wasn't causing any real trouble, because orbital locations 45 degrees from my true south were experiencing only about a 0.2 degree error. This could be easily compensated by lying to the Pansat about the orbital location. However the error quickly got larger for the lower elevation birds.
We had high winds a few weeks ago that blew the 1.2 m mount slightly off. When resetting the adjustments I again verified the satellites far off-center only had in-track errors (ie. bumping the dish up or down only reduced the signal level). I got curious what was going on. As far as I can tell, the USALS algorithms have not been openly published. There were a handful of website calculators that made some or all of the calculations, but none agreed for significant offset angles, and none agreed with my Pansat's calculated motor angles. I also looked through a number of open-source codes for controlling USALS motors, and that only increased the cacophony.
I surmised the discrepancies might have to do with different declination offset angles, and further reading found many approaches to calculating the 'optimal' declination offset angle. Of course none were the same. As the declination offset is only an approximate correction to track the arc, it appeared the differences probably resulted from different optimization criteria. For example, one approximation might minimize the tracking error for angles close to true south, at the expense of angles close to the horizon. Another might do the opposite.
Rather than re-derive each approach and figure out where they made different assumptions, I thought this was prime territory for a little linear algebra. For fun I decided to employ a non-spherical earth model and consider my altitude (this turned out to be useless for Denver because its altitude essentially offsets the earth's polar flattening). Fairly quickly I found the Pansat calculated motor angles were precisely in agreement with a zero declination offset angle, other than when it tried to calculate orbital positions more than about 65 degrees from true south and got completely nonsensical answers.
I then set up my calculations to optimize cross-track performance by varying the declination offset angle. This was all fun and good, but not terribly practical because there were many excellent fits using different optimization criteria with maximum cross-track errors of a few-thousandths of a degree. Satellites typically are only kept positioned in a box much bigger than that, even considering the folly of thinking one could adjust a dish to that accuracy.
Nevertheless to put theory into practice I hauled up the theodolite and tweaked everything until I got bored. One of the open-source programs I had come across is called xdipo and with one of my USB receivers was an excellent starting point for a better USALS controller than the Pansat. xdipo's calculations for motor offset angles are way off, but that can be fixed. I modified a number of xdipo's controls and tweaked its display of the signal levels and quality to make it into a more precise tuning instrument. It's rather convenient because the USB receiver is inside the house run by a Linux machine running xdipo remotely over wireless to display on my laptop on the roof. In some ways this turned out to be more precise than using a spectrum analyzer, and a lot faster. It didn't take long to confirm my direct calculations of the motor angle were dead-on for the given declination angle, while the Pansat was not. I was also able to calibrate out an error in the DG-380's view of what was a zero offset angle by subtracting this out in xdipo. I haven't taken the DG-380 apart, but I would like to remove this mechanical error.
I'm confident the Pansat is making the simplifying assumption that there is no declination offset angle, causing the positioning error to increase with angle. One could partially compensate for this mechanically through an intentional misalignment, at the expense of cross-track error. That wouldn't make a lot of sense.
I can't change the Pansat USALS calculations, but I could write code for Linux to build an accurate satellite positioning system. I've put that in my project to-do hopper because the Pansat has other limitations with positioning that I am no longer willing to tolerate. Whether these same approximations/errors exist in other receivers I cannot say, but hopefully some of what I've come across may explain oddities others have observed.
My true south is about 105 degrees, allowing me to get most of the Ku action not too far off-center. From the beginning I noticed when using my Pansat 9200HD, the farther I drove the dish from center in either direction, the greater the in-track error in positioning. In fact both east and west errors were about the same for similar offsets, with the Pansat always driving the dish not quite far enough. I realized this might simply be accumulating mechanical errors in the motor, but the consistency was concerning. In reality this wasn't causing any real trouble, because orbital locations 45 degrees from my true south were experiencing only about a 0.2 degree error. This could be easily compensated by lying to the Pansat about the orbital location. However the error quickly got larger for the lower elevation birds.
We had high winds a few weeks ago that blew the 1.2 m mount slightly off. When resetting the adjustments I again verified the satellites far off-center only had in-track errors (ie. bumping the dish up or down only reduced the signal level). I got curious what was going on. As far as I can tell, the USALS algorithms have not been openly published. There were a handful of website calculators that made some or all of the calculations, but none agreed for significant offset angles, and none agreed with my Pansat's calculated motor angles. I also looked through a number of open-source codes for controlling USALS motors, and that only increased the cacophony.
I surmised the discrepancies might have to do with different declination offset angles, and further reading found many approaches to calculating the 'optimal' declination offset angle. Of course none were the same. As the declination offset is only an approximate correction to track the arc, it appeared the differences probably resulted from different optimization criteria. For example, one approximation might minimize the tracking error for angles close to true south, at the expense of angles close to the horizon. Another might do the opposite.
Rather than re-derive each approach and figure out where they made different assumptions, I thought this was prime territory for a little linear algebra. For fun I decided to employ a non-spherical earth model and consider my altitude (this turned out to be useless for Denver because its altitude essentially offsets the earth's polar flattening). Fairly quickly I found the Pansat calculated motor angles were precisely in agreement with a zero declination offset angle, other than when it tried to calculate orbital positions more than about 65 degrees from true south and got completely nonsensical answers.
I then set up my calculations to optimize cross-track performance by varying the declination offset angle. This was all fun and good, but not terribly practical because there were many excellent fits using different optimization criteria with maximum cross-track errors of a few-thousandths of a degree. Satellites typically are only kept positioned in a box much bigger than that, even considering the folly of thinking one could adjust a dish to that accuracy.
Nevertheless to put theory into practice I hauled up the theodolite and tweaked everything until I got bored. One of the open-source programs I had come across is called xdipo and with one of my USB receivers was an excellent starting point for a better USALS controller than the Pansat. xdipo's calculations for motor offset angles are way off, but that can be fixed. I modified a number of xdipo's controls and tweaked its display of the signal levels and quality to make it into a more precise tuning instrument. It's rather convenient because the USB receiver is inside the house run by a Linux machine running xdipo remotely over wireless to display on my laptop on the roof. In some ways this turned out to be more precise than using a spectrum analyzer, and a lot faster. It didn't take long to confirm my direct calculations of the motor angle were dead-on for the given declination angle, while the Pansat was not. I was also able to calibrate out an error in the DG-380's view of what was a zero offset angle by subtracting this out in xdipo. I haven't taken the DG-380 apart, but I would like to remove this mechanical error.
I'm confident the Pansat is making the simplifying assumption that there is no declination offset angle, causing the positioning error to increase with angle. One could partially compensate for this mechanically through an intentional misalignment, at the expense of cross-track error. That wouldn't make a lot of sense.
I can't change the Pansat USALS calculations, but I could write code for Linux to build an accurate satellite positioning system. I've put that in my project to-do hopper because the Pansat has other limitations with positioning that I am no longer willing to tolerate. Whether these same approximations/errors exist in other receivers I cannot say, but hopefully some of what I've come across may explain oddities others have observed.
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This may be an old thread, but I read it some time ago and found it very interesting, and very puzzling at the same time, because back then I didn't understand a lot of it I must confess.
However now I understand quite a bit more, and maybe can add some usefull info.
The calculated rotation angles for a motor axis parallel to the earth polar axis is also called Hour Angle in some calculators.
(Hour angles are also the base for calculating LNB-distances for multifeed-rails on satellite dishes, by the way.)
For calculating angles for the adjusted motor angles, using a polar axis tilt, I had the following thought:
With a tilted rotation axis, the "equator" of the rotation gets lower than the earth equator, to exactly the amount of degrees of the axis tilt.
So with calculating the adjusted Hour Angles, the axis tilt value has to be added to the value of the latitude angle, used in the formula for the Hour Angle.
All the other variables in the formula can then remain the same.
I put this way of calculating in a spreadsheet, an got results only some hundredth degrees different from the values of pendragon and B.J.
So my way of calculating must be accurate enough, I would say.
The latitude alteration would also be the way to trick the 'normal' USALS Hour Angle calculation of a receiver, I think.
Add the difference of the "normal" motor elevation and the used "adjusted" motor elevation to the latitude value in the receiver, and you get the "adjusted" hour angle (which is then sent to the motor).
(You can also use the difference between the "normal" declination angle and the used "adjusted" declination angle; that is of course the same value.)
I compared the values of the normal hour angle and the adjusted hour angle for some earth coordinates and a range of satellites, and the difference between them was never more than 0.07 degrees, I'm afraid. I had expected bigger differences.
However maybe for hard to get satellites it might be of help, to use this adjusted latitude value.
greetz,
A33
Edit: BTW, I 've never seen tested that a USALS calculation of a receiver actually sends the diseqc command corresponding to the hour angle (that is the rotation angle when using a motor axis parallel to the earth polar axis). Has anyone tested this, with a diseqc command reader or oscilloscope or other measuring instrument?
This may be an old thread, but I read it some time ago and found it very interesting, and very puzzling at the same time, because back then I didn't understand a lot of it I must confess.
However now I understand quite a bit more, and maybe can add some usefull info.
The calculated rotation angles for a motor axis parallel to the earth polar axis is also called Hour Angle in some calculators.
(Hour angles are also the base for calculating LNB-distances for multifeed-rails on satellite dishes, by the way.)
For calculating angles for the adjusted motor angles, using a polar axis tilt, I had the following thought:
With a tilted rotation axis, the "equator" of the rotation gets lower than the earth equator, to exactly the amount of degrees of the axis tilt.
So with calculating the adjusted Hour Angles, the axis tilt value has to be added to the value of the latitude angle, used in the formula for the Hour Angle.
All the other variables in the formula can then remain the same.
I put this way of calculating in a spreadsheet, an got results only some hundredth degrees different from the values of pendragon and B.J.
So my way of calculating must be accurate enough, I would say.
The latitude alteration would also be the way to trick the 'normal' USALS Hour Angle calculation of a receiver, I think.
Add the difference of the "normal" motor elevation and the used "adjusted" motor elevation to the latitude value in the receiver, and you get the "adjusted" hour angle (which is then sent to the motor).
(You can also use the difference between the "normal" declination angle and the used "adjusted" declination angle; that is of course the same value.)
I compared the values of the normal hour angle and the adjusted hour angle for some earth coordinates and a range of satellites, and the difference between them was never more than 0.07 degrees, I'm afraid. I had expected bigger differences.
However maybe for hard to get satellites it might be of help, to use this adjusted latitude value.
greetz,
A33
Edit: BTW, I 've never seen tested that a USALS calculation of a receiver actually sends the diseqc command corresponding to the hour angle (that is the rotation angle when using a motor axis parallel to the earth polar axis). Has anyone tested this, with a diseqc command reader or oscilloscope or other measuring instrument?
Altitude should not make a difference to USALS calculations, at least not enough of a difference to change settings. If you needed accuracy to less than 1/10th of a degree then maybe... Consider how far away the satellite is and if it moved a mile up, down, left, or right, it wouldn't make a change in reception.
However... as you mentioned sunburning your head.. there is less atmosphere up there than at sea level so signals to the horizon should be better than lower down in elevation. If you are on a mountaintop then you might even squeek in a half or a degree or more off your horizon... but at 5000ft not much of a difference.
However... as you mentioned sunburning your head.. there is less atmosphere up there than at sea level so signals to the horizon should be better than lower down in elevation. If you are on a mountaintop then you might even squeek in a half or a degree or more off your horizon... but at 5000ft not much of a difference.
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hello everyone.
I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.
First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.
I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.
With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!
I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.
After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.
I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.
Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.
Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.
Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.
Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.
I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.
Sincerely,
RJ T.
From Illinois
I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.
First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.
I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.
With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!
I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.
After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.
I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.
Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.
Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.
Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.
Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.
I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.
Sincerely,
RJ T.
From Illinois
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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.
Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:
my.dish.com
Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:
MyDISH
Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.
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This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.
RJ T.
From Illinois
Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.
Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:
MyDISH
Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.
This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.
RJ T.
From Illinois
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Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this
my.dish.com
They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.
Will post shortly with update.
RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...
Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this
Dish TV
Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.
They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.
Will post shortly with update.
RJ T.
From Illinois
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the tip.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the alert.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
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Direct YouTube Link - Intelligent Machines 874
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Direct YouTube Link - Intelligent Machines 874
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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
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The 'get after it media' stations
www.getafteritmedia.com
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Get After It Media
www.getafteritmedia.com
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etcGet After It Media
We already have those diginets here.
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. 
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.
I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. 
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
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Direct YouTube Link - Siri AI Delayed in EU Over DMA
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.
------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
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