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PLEASE READ THIS FIRST! DirecTV Cutting Edge Program: Terms, FAQ, How-To, Hidden Features, and More

If you have any issues with this CE release, please post them in this thread. We'll try to help, and DirecTV will see / be aware of your issue :)


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H21-100, H21-200, H23-600 (x42E4) (CE #17)

(Release Dates 4/3 & 4/4, 11pm-2:30am ET)

Areas of Focus
• Scheduling autotunes
• Resetting the set-top-box in standby
• Call ID inconsistency

Notes
• H21-100: low risk download
• H21-200: customer candidate
• H23-600: low risk download
• Going back to National will go back to default settings and lose local market ID setting
• Please report non-MRV issues only
• Please report abnormally low signal strength values; please specify whether the box is in FTM (SWM) or Multiswitch (traditional switch or no switch) environment

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Previous Release Notes:
New features
01 - Network
01 - Media Share
01 - Music Screen Saver
01 - Game Search
01 - 1080p/24
01 - OTA via the AM21
01 - Autotune
01 - Multi-Room Viewing
:::::::View Playlist from a networked HR2x or R22
:::::::Playback/Trick Play functions from any networked HR2x or R22
:::::::Press {LIST} to see HR2x or R22 servers one playback per server at a time
02 - Parental Controls when scheduling autotune
02 - MRV: bookmarks and resume playback from previous location
04 - Friendly name in network setup
04 - QuickTune
05 - Built-in Self Test
13 - Advance setup in remote control

Improved/Updated
02 - Support for more 1080p Sony TV models
02 - Faster Guide scrolling
02 - ATSC signal meter performance
02 - Fixed a screen saver issue
02 - ATSC setup screen now works on first boot
02 - Fixed reappearance of deleted autotunes
02 - UI updates ("tuner 2" and "tuner 3" references)
02 - Fixed Gray Screen or a PPV OSD appearing overnight
02 - Improved "Try Again" when trying to connect to the Internet.
03 - AV1/AV2 remote code refinements
03 - Improvements to DHCP network setup
04 - Issues with rebooting while in standby
04 - WGA600N Support
04 - Static IP Setup
05 - Stability
05 - Missing "Just a few seconds" OSD
05 - MRV playback and trickplay problems
05 - User Interface polishing
06 - Network services, Network setup, Network status
06 - One touch autotune via Enter key
06 - H21-100, SWM compatibility--will not affect other boxes
06 - H21-100, remote control support
06 - Removed "Reformatting Hard Drive" screen after Reset Everything
06 - Changing Display Language
07 - One touch autotune via Enter key
07 - WGA600N setup with WPA encryption
07 - Receiver not resetting
07 - Closed Captioning Loss
08 - Autotune on ATSC channels
08 - WGA600N setup with WPA encryption
08 - UI Improvements
08 - Missing spending limit unlock OSD
08 - SWM issue, Signal Strength H21-100
08 - System test H21-100
09 - Network Setup
09 - Autotune on ATSC channels
09 - Keyword search
09 - Screen flash coming out of Standby
10 - Improved Front Panel display on boot up
10 - IR Remote H21-100
10 - Remote setting when reset defaults
11 - PPV spending limit conversion (compared to national release)
11 - Video when switching to alternate audio
11 - Fixed blank reset everything screen
12 - Stability fixes
12 - Faster keyword search
12 - Reset everything warning message
13 - Autotuning when using parental controls
13 - Fixed "tune to 201" issue
13 - Reset defaults correctly sets the hide/show SD duplicates option
13 - Updated connection successful message in Network setup
13 - Stability
14 - Autotune Fixes:
::::::Manual with past start times
::::::Lingering icon after canceling
::::::Parental Controls
::::::Minor polishing
14 - Updated welcome screen and help messages
15 - Autotune Scheduling with Viewing Hours set
15 - Preserve favorites when converting from NDS to DIRECTV firmware
15 - HDCP content protection H23-600
15 - Minor polishing
16 - Additional improvements to items from previous CE
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J
Actually I thought this was the DVR thread, heh, sorry. I don't have any sluggishness with this release. Everything is working great.
LGM
LGM
And yet again, I spoke too soon. Lost signal once last night. Signal shows all 0's on everything, and there's a 771 error. The AM21 still stays powered up when turning off the receiver.

No, it's not a big deal, and no I'm not too upset about it, but I thought the idea of CE was too point out things that aren't working or aren't working right.
Having a unit stay on after turning it off doesn't sound like it's working right, and while it might not use much juice or cause any other problems it does present an inconsistent user experience when it does turn off when attached to the HR series.
Of course DTV COULD add my locals, like dish has, then I wouldn't need the AM21..... :)

Take care,

L.G.M.

Oh yeah, it's a H23-600 wired directly to my dish, no switch.
Rey
Rey
And yet again, I spoke too soon. Lost signal once last night. Signal shows all 0's on everything, and there's a 771 error. The AM21 still stays powered up when turning off the receiver.

No, it's not a big deal, and no I'm not too upset about it, but I thought the idea of CE was too point out things that aren't working or aren't working right.
Having a unit stay on after turning it off doesn't sound like it's working right, and while it might not use much juice or cause any other problems it does present an inconsistent user experience when it does turn off when attached to the HR series.
Of course DTV COULD add my locals, like dish has, then I wouldn't need the AM21..... :)

Take care,

L.G.M.

Oh yeah, it's a H23-600 wired directly to my dish, no switch.

i would still have the am21 but I'm beginning to think that your H23 is defective. I've seen you post this issue many times and i think it's a hardware issue. unless your receiver runs correctly with the national release? :)
LGM
LGM
i would still have the am21 but I'm beginning to think that your H23 is defective. I've seen you post this issue many times and i think it's a hardware issue. unless your receiver runs correctly with the national release? :)

I thought so too, I've ruled out cabling by moving the unit around. I haven't reverted it back to the national release, but I don't recall it ever losing signal before I started using the CE releases.
Of course, it was only installed a couple of weeks before I started with CE releases and I might not have been "looking" for issues. (The national release doesn't support the AM21, so I'm not sure what would happen to that issue.)
I'm goingto revert it tonight and see what happens over the next few days.

Thanks,

L.G.M.
Rey
Rey
I thought so too, I've ruled out cabling by moving the unit around. I haven't reverted it back to the national release, but I don't recall it ever losing signal before I started using the CE releases.
Of course, it was only installed a couple of weeks before I started with CE releases and I might not have been "looking" for issues. (The national release doesn't support the AM21, so I'm not sure what would happen to that issue.)
I'm goingto revert it tonight and see what happens over the next few days.

Thanks,

L.G.M.

that's a great idea. either way i'm pretty sure there's another ce this weekend for the H23. let us know how it goes ;)
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
long_time_Dish
Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
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All Around The World - Oasis
dfergie
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
R
Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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dfergie
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
S
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
S
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
meStevo
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Some wild inflation and significant uptick in earthquake activity in the caldera. Magma intrusion, could lead to new fissure(s). Or not.

1790868854059.webp


Summary: A shallow intrusion of magma is occurring within the summit region near the existing eruption location in Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

Activity Summary: Earthquake activity has increased in the summit region of Kīlauea beneath Halemaʻumaʻu crater and the south caldera region. Ground deformation patterns recorded by summit tiltmeters suggest that magma is intruding beneath the ground in this area, in an east-west orientation, near the western or southern part of Halemaʻumaʻu crater.

Increased earthquake activity began this afternoon, September 30, 2026, at approximately 2 p.m. HST, underneath Halemaʻumaʻu. Since then, about 40 earthquakes have been detected and activity is still on-going. The largest event, so far, a magnitude 3.4 earthquake, occurred at 9:52 p.m. HST, 1.4 km (0.9 miles) beneath the surface in the northeast part of Halemaʻumaʻu. Starting around 8 p.m. HST., summit tiltmeters began to show extremely rapid changes consistent with crack growth in an east-west orientation possible near the current vent area, suggesting that magma is intruding in this region.

Historically, east-west trending fissures have erupted in the southeastern part of Halemaʻumaʻu and extending through the Keanakākoʻi crater area all the way to Chain of Craters Road near Lua Manu. The last east-west fissure in this area erupted in September 2023 and extended from the middle of Halemaʻumaʻu to the eastern wall just beneath the Keanakākoʻi overlook. An event of this type is also possible under current conditions.

Currently, there are no signs of a change at the surface as the existing eruptive vent complex in Halemaʻumaʻu, including the north and south vents, continue to intermittently spatter with strong glow and flames; however, conditions could change quickly. It is possible that this event ends without reaching the surface or it produces a fissure eruption in a new location within the summit caldera region.
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View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME


Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:
  • Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].

  • No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].

  • Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].

  • Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].

  • Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...
Anony55
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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