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andyin137

Last reply May 15, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Existing Customer Deals?

Just curoius if anyone has been able to negotiate better package Deals with Dishnetwork if your an existing Customer.The reason I am asking is when I subscribed to Dish all I wanted was all the Available HD that is out and is coming up.I was told TURBO packages would offer that.Most of us know that hasnt happenned.Now in order for anyone to get all available non premium HD you have to subscribe to Classic 250 ,Platinum and 10..00 Hd add on.(I think that if you have to subscribe to any classic package,The HD add on should be waived or reduced if you subscribe to Classic 250, if you also subscribe to Platinum that should be only 5.00.Which would be a 10 discount.Well I guess I am in a dream world as Dish is out to make money for Charlie can live on his (Supposedly)6 figure salary.
It would be helpful to know if anyone has been successful in getting their pack fees reduced.
I know TV is a Luxury and if you cant afford you should go down to a package you can.This has more to do with Dish not making the package more user friendly and less confusing.And the fact I pay close to 100 a month for I can get all available HD is a waste as I have all these extra SD channels I dont want or watch.but forced to pay for them in order to Get HD.
Dish used to be cheaper than Cable but now its catching up and if prices increase too much more they will be losing people who go back to Cable as when Cable goes out you dont have to pay to fix or have a Dish to fight with.Honestly if cable was available where I live (I live in the Country)I would consider it as It seems everytime we have a wind event no matter how tight Dish is ,it gets knocked out of line and where my Dish is located makes it impossible for myself to go and adjust on my own.If Dishes prices continue to go up (Technically my Rate went from 49.00 a month in TURBO,to 90.00 because of the way thier HD package now are offered)thats a big raise in 1 year.
Please no comments on "If you cant afford it you should downgrade" The issue isnt my ability to afford (I am doing just fine "Thank YOU" .Its Dishes packages that are screwy and need to be fixed.
Let me know if anyone has been able to get a better price!

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andyin137

May 10, 2009

Heres my Deal

CEO got back to me today(On a Sunday what a surprise).After reviewing my account ,he agreed I got shafted as I signed up just as VOOM was leaving and was lead to beleive I would be able to get all available HD when it became available if I had TURBO GOLD.I was told Dish is working to have these additional channels added to Turbo but for now he could offer me some discounts to offset having to pay extra just to have all the HD .
Heres the discounts I was able to get
10 dollars credit for 12 months
free platinum for 6 months
Free HBO and Starz for 3 months(even though I had this offer previously)
also was promised that Platinum and HBO ,Starz would automatically be deleted at end of free offer unless I decided to keep.(I will watch account anyway)
I didnt expect this good of a deal but it never hurts to ask.Also CEO gave me a direct number to call if any problems with billing.
Everything was turned on and Credits applied.

The CEO told me he gave us a good deal because I was polite and non demanding in my request.
So now instead of Bill being 96.00 a month its 75.00 which is much better as I would have just TURBO HD that would be about the same if you consider I dont watch the SD channels much anyway.
I cant promise anyone else can get this type of deal but it never hurts to try ,especially in todays economy ,they dont want to lose customers.

Laddyboy

May 10, 2009

andyin137 said:
CEO got back to me today(On a Sunday what a surprise).After reviewing my account ,he agreed I got shafted as I signed up just as VOOM was leaving and was lead to beleive I would be able to get all available HD when it became available if I had TURBO GOLD.I was told Dish is working to have these additional channels added to Turbo but for now he could offer me some discounts to offset having to pay extra just to have all the HD .
Heres the discounts I was able to get
10 dollars credit for 12 months
free platinum for 6 months
Free HBO and Starz for 3 months(even though I had this offer previously)
also was promised that Platinum and HBO ,Starz would automatically be deleted at end of free offer unless I decided to keep.(I will watch account anyway)
I didnt expect this good of a deal but it never hurts to ask.Also CEO gave me a direct number to call if any problems with billing.
Everything was turned on and Credits applied.

The CEO told me he gave us a good deal because I was polite and non demanding in my request.
So now instead of Bill being 96.00 a month its 75.00 which is much better as I would have just TURBO HD that would be about the same if you consider I dont watch the SD channels much anyway.
I cant promise anyone else can get this type of deal but it never hurts to try ,especially in todays economy ,they dont want to lose customers.

Just about any existing, not new, sub can get the $10 reduction for 12 months if you extend our commitment. All subs are eligible for the HBO promo and a 3-month Platinum HD promo. If they didn't extend your commitment back out to 24 months, you got a good deal.

andyin137

May 10, 2009

Didnt extend contract

Laddyboy said:
Just about any existing, not new, sub can get the $10 reduction for 12 months if you extend our commitment. All subs are eligible for the HBO promo and a 3-month Platinum HD promo. If they didn't extend your commitment back out to 24 months, you got a good deal.

I made sure these offers werent trapping me in a longer contract,I still have only 12 months remaining .HBO/Starz is available to Subscribers but not usually again if you had it before like I did.So that was added Bonus.As for platinum I had free offer before but didnt watch much as there was nothing of interest of those channels,but now that they have added a few more Channels it might be better,so offering it again to me would benefit Dish as I am most likely going to keep Platinum after the free 6 month.
(Just a Note to Subscribers,its not a bad idea to call Dish every now and again to check on how much longer you have to complete committement(if your like me I am not good at dates)Just in case they try to pull a fast one and extend without your knowledge.They did that to my Sister and when she tried to cancel Dish after her time was up she was told she was still under contract,what it came down to was the wrong end of contract date was put in system(should of expired Dec 2007 but was put in as 2008.Fortunately for Sister she keeps good records.
I dont plan on leaving Dish after contract but I like the option if prices keep going up and also if they dont make packages more user friendly.

Stargazer

May 11, 2009

Dish has been offering more things to existing subscribers this past year. I am surprised they are losing as many subscribers as they are with all the promotions they give their existing subscribers now with discounts and hardware upgrades. Are they just not adding the subscribers they used to or do they have higher churn or both?

CoreyC

May 11, 2009

Stargazer said:
Dish has been offering more things to existing subscribers this past year. I am surprised they are losing as many subscribers as they are with all the promotions they give their existing subscribers now with discounts and hardware upgrades. Are they just not adding the subscribers they used to or do they have higher churn or both?

The main reason I stick with Dish is because of the offers they have for existing customers. DirecTV does not come close.

The best existing customer deals I have seen come from local retailers. I got a 'customer appreciation" flyer the other day that offers $10/m off for the next year, a free DVR upgrade, and 3 free months of hbo/starz/platinumhd. Sure, it requires a 2 year contract... but Dish has my business for a while anyway. That is pretty comparable to what they offer new customers.

And then you have crazy deals like Cinemax for a penny.

mitchflorida

May 11, 2009

CoreyC said:
The main reason I stick with Dish is because of the offers they have for existing customers. DirecTV does not come close.

The best existing customer deals I have seen come from local retailers. I got a 'customer appreciation" flyer the other day that offers $10/m off for the next year, a free DVR upgrade, and 3 free months of hbo/starz/platinumhd. Sure, it requires a 2 year contract... but Dish has my business for a while anyway. That is pretty comparable to what they offer new customers.

And then you have crazy deals like Cinemax for a penny.

They are being smart in making sure that they are locking their customers into long-term contracts. If they are lax about that, people will just dump dish and go with DirecTV or Comcast. They made the wrong decision before in not catering to customers without long term contracts, and they lost a lot of customers. Now they are wising up.

It is the same thing with the Cell Phone companies. When you are under contract they give you nothing. But when your contract is expired, they really start loading the goodies to get you to re-up.

I got that same offer you did, what a great deal.

andyin137

May 15, 2009

Promises Made ,but not Kept

andyin137 said:
I made sure these offers werent trapping me in a longer contract,I still have only 12 months remaining .HBO/Starz is available to Subscribers but not usually again if you had it before like I did.So that was added Bonus.As for platinum I had free offer before but didnt watch much as there was nothing of interest of those channels,but now that they have added a few more Channels it might be better,so offering it again to me would benefit Dish as I am most likely going to keep Platinum after the free 6 month.
(Just a Note to Subscribers,its not a bad idea to call Dish every now and again to check on how much longer you have to complete committement(if your like me I am not good at dates)Just in case they try to pull a fast one and extend without your knowledge.They did that to my Sister and when she tried to cancel Dish after her time was up she was told she was still under contract,what it came down to was the wrong end of contract date was put in system(should of expired Dec 2007 but was put in as 2008.Fortunately for Sister she keeps good records.
I dont plan on leaving Dish after contract but I like the option if prices keep going up and also if they dont make packages more user friendly.

I want to update my post as of Friday May 15 th.I finally got an email back after waiting a week to have what was promised turned on.Dish took back their offer and are only giving me a 12.00 credit for 3 months.I didnt ask for any specific offer,the offer that was made was solely at their discretion.But telling me they were going to give me Classic 250 with HD for the price of HD gold and not following thru is inexcusable.I dealt with a CEO and if thats the way Dish does Business,when contract is up I will be moving to other provider.I emailed CEO again re-explaining the offer I was given(Copied and Pasted chat transscript)will see what happens.Most likely they will just ignore like they did all this week.I am hoping its just a mistake and hope to get resolved,if not its thier loss.

Stargazer

May 15, 2009

The combination of deals is really good. $10 off, free Starz/HBO, Cinemax for a year for a penny, free HD Platinum for three months, and equipment upgrades along with HD channel additions makes things pretty nice to sweeten the pot. I am just wondering if they will continude to do this or sweeten the pot even more to continue to try to keep customers. Hopefully they realize that it costs less to try to keep existing customers by giving them some deals instead of paying so much money to lure a new customer in.

I have been thinking for a while now that they need to really do something to keep the customers that they have. Sometimes they offer the deals too late waiting until they shut you off and called another provider to offer the deal. Its too little too late at that point. Dish may not offer quite as good of a deal in some cases as you would get by switching providers but if they prevent people from calling around and keeping them in contract then it would not be as big of a problem. Making people sign another two-year contract is fine if you get the benefit for two years. Having to sign a two-year contract to only get one year's worth of promotions seems not as good to me. I think they need to give someone a deal for two years if they make you sign a two year contract.

ab187

May 15, 2009

I have been thinking about upgrading to HD since football season is just around the corner. Looking at my account Dish is charging $75 to upgrade to a 722. In my opinion that is to much since I am out of contract and I already have a 1000.2 installed. On the on line chats the rep. won't go any lower than $75 so I am thinking the best option is to call Dish and see if the retention department will get me a better deal. Does anybody have any advice for dealing with the retention department?

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 1 minute ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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vazhog

Yesterday at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

harshness

Today at 2:37 AM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).

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Foxbat

Today at 12:33 PM

Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

harshness

Today at 1:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?

Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?

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slow_poke_pete

23 minutes ago

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

what about the welfare kings and queens

osu1991

1 minute ago

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.

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telebiker

Last reply 46 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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navychop

Oct 18, 2026

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.

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snissen

46 minutes ago

reubenray said:
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 1:18 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

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(((Garyd)))

Today at 1:05 PM

dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.

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ewindowman

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Last reply Today at 1:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Almighty1

Oct 7, 2026

EchoStar fixes some of its mess, but there's much more to mop up

EchoStar's satellite TV and Sling TV services have exited Chapter 11, but clouds still hover above Dish Wireless, which faces a multitude of lawsuits.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 7:11 AM

News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

www.lightreading.com

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:50 AM

Bruce said:
News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

www.lightreading.com

So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?

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Today at 10:53 AM

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nelson61

Today at 1:01 PM

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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 12:40 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Oct 18, 2026

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Oct 21, 2026

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Oct 21, 2026

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Bobby

Today at 11:03 AM

Regular$5.699
Premium$6.199
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

osu1991

Today at 11:26 AM

Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places

dfergie

Today at 12:40 PM

$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...

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Van

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.

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TRG

Sunday at 1:40 PM

Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

Bobby

Wednesday at 1:53 PM

Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!

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dfergie

Wednesday at 3:35 PM

Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)

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TRG

Wednesday at 5:06 PM

dfergie said:
Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)

I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.

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dfergie

Today at 11:26 AM

Mixed one egg, one tablespoon cottage cheese with a small fine grated potato, salt and pepper, made 3 waffles in the small waffle iron... Bacon, sausage and milk. (next time will add grated cheese to mix)

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Club TWiT: AI User Group #21 - Superpowers With Jesse Vincent

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meStevo

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Last reply Today at 3:27 AM · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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rvvaquero

Oct 22, 2026

Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.

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Sunday at 8:17 PM

Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.

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Tuesday at 6:21 PM

Balls
Bears. Gave the Pats a good beatdown.
Bucs. Got Baker back and absolutely demolished the previously surprising Panthers.
Falcons. Took care of the 49ers and did so convincingly.
Vikings. I hate them. I do. I've never seen such a bad/good team. Know what I mean? I know their D is epic. But their O is insulting. How they remain undefeated is a mystery.
Rams. Finally looked the part. Mind you against the hapless Cards.
Cowboys. Fireworks performance from their O.
Dolphins. Finally logged in a W. There won't be many. Enjoy it, Miami fans.
Browns. Still atop the AFC North.
Giants. Epic OT win with Buffalo's very own Motor Singletary finishing it off.
Seattle. Dominated KC from start to finish.

Goats
Jets. Couldn't beat the winless Dolphins. Aaron Glenn is a dead man walking.
Eagles. Injured beyond repair
Ravens and Lamar. Has he ever played a full season? Honestly, dude is fragile. Of course he's back for the Bills game.
49ers. No longer undefeated.
Colts. A sh*t show. When are they gonna realize that Daniel Jones is ass?
Steelers vs Saints game. Ass, just ass all around. Those poor people in Paris have had enough lately, and on top of that, endure that game.
Chiefs. They looked terrible. Like really bad.
Pack vs. Detroit game refs. Some of the worst refereeing I've seen in a long time. And the sample is pretty large.

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Pretty great story.

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