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Yes.
Leader in the most National HD,
Leader in the most Premium movies in HD
Leader in HD/ DVR wars
Leader in HD Price per channel.

But
Not Leader in HD Sports
Not Leader in HD PPV
Not Leader in HD PQ
Not Leader in HD VOD

Only My Opinion though .

tbenning said:

Hi,
while you're updating it, the formula's and counts on the "Regular channels" are wrong.
The formulas in cells B51,C51, F45 and G45 contain the wrong cell range and therefore the wrong counts are listed... When the Formulas are updated to ranges of B5:b50 and C5:C50 the correct Dish vs. DirecTV counts are:
Regular Channels: 44 vs 36
National HD : 84 vs. 70.

I've attached a version containing these formula corrections.

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It maybe time to buy some stock in tissues.

NotMe546 said:

It maybe time to buy some stock in tissues.

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NotMe546 said:

Be carefully do you really want to see grown men crying. With to much of this we will have many D* fan boys crying!!!
Or worst yet they will tell us so more fantasy story's.

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Dish takes over the lead in basic national HD for the first time in over a year and you Dish fanboys are gloating like a child that went to Disneyland for the first time.

Honestly, with the dismal quarters Dish has had and probably their worst one yet to come (losing more subs than just about any provider), I guess when something good does finally occur you fan boys think it is the best thing since the invention of sliced bread.

Seriously, I am glad that you guys got all of these HD channels. Healthy competition is good for both providers. Lets face it, Dish was not providing much in the way of competition lately, so maybe this is the first step in Direct stepping up a little as well.

Out of the HD channels that you guys got that Direct does not have yet, there are only 2 I want. The others like BET and WFN, ex, I will not watch those at all. The two I want are Travel and WGN (WGN I don't need as much since I can see just about every Cubs game in HD anyway. In fact I can watch more Cub games in HD than nationwide Dish subs can watch).

Although Dish does have more real national HD channels than Direct now, it still comes down to which provider is best for each individual. Basically, which one provides the package you want at the price you are willing to pay. For some, premiums are important and Dish is the leader in this field. For some cheaper package options are a priority and Dish lead here as well. For others, sports is their main focus, and Direct is the leader in this realm. Also, once people start adding equipment and packages, Direct becomes the better price deal in many situations as well. People may also look at which provider gives them the best local offerings in both SD and HD.

For me personally, although Dish has 2 HD channels that I want that Direct does not have, Direct still is the best option for me. I am quite happy. First I pay less with my setup with Direct than I would for a comparable setup with Dish. Direct offers packages that I watch that Dish does not even offer. For my particular packages, I actually get more HD with Direct than I would with Dish. I also have more local HD with Direct than with Dish (8 to 6).

NotMe546 said:

Come on D* can't even figure out how to make basic functions work on a DVR.

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Have you ever owned an HR?

Yes, the VIPs do perform better and offer some better features than the HRs. As far as interactive features, the HRs offer way more than the VIPs.

The only issue(s) I have had with my HR occured due to a CE I downloaded last week and with the update this week the problem seems to be fixed. So performance is fine.

DodgerKing said:

Dish takes over the lead in basic national HD for the first time in over a year and you Dish fanboys are gloating like a child that went to Disneyland for the first time.

Honestly, with the dismal quarters Dish has had and probably their worst one yet to come (losing more subs than just about any provider), I guess when something good does finally occur you fan boys think it is the best thing since the invention of sliced bread.

Seriously, I am glad that you guys got all of these HD channels. Healthy competition is good for both providers. Lets face it, Dish was not providing much in the way of competition lately, so maybe this is the first step in Direct stepping up a little as well.

Out of the HD channels that you guys got that Direct does not have yet, there are only 2 I want. The others like BET and WFN, ex, I will not watch those at all. The two I want are Travel and WGN (WGN I don't need as much since I can see just about every Cubs game in HD anyway. In fact I can watch more Cub games in HD than nationwide Dish subs can watch).

Although Dish does have more real national HD channels than Direct now, it still comes down to which provider is best for each individual. Basically, which one provides the package you want at the price you are willing to pay. For some, premiums are important and Dish is the leader in this field. For some cheaper package options are a priority and Dish lead here as well. For others, sports is their main focus, and Direct is the leader in this realm. Also, once people start adding equipment and packages, Direct becomes the better price deal in many situations as well. People may also look at which provider gives them the best local offerings in both SD and HD.

For me personally, although Dish has 2 HD channels that I want that Direct does not have, Direct still is the best option for me. I am quite happy. First I pay less with my setup with Direct than I would for a comparable setup with Dish. Direct offers packages that I watch that Dish does not even offer. For my particular packages, I actually get more HD with Direct than I would with Dish. I also have more local HD with Direct than with Dish (8 to 6).


Have you ever owned an HR?

Yes, the VIPs do perform better and offer some better features than the HRs. As far as interactive features, the HRs offer way more than the VIPs.

The only issue(s) I have had with my HR occured due to a CE I downloaded last week and with the update this week the problem seems to be fixed. So performance is fine.

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I'm cracking up over your post.
Do you get more money if D* gets more subs?

BTW - I'd pay 2x as much if I switched from Dish Network to Direct TV for the most similar channels. No thanks. I could spend that ~$500/year somewhere else.

My home System is as Follows

Classic 250 Gold HD DVR. Is $77.99 ( Includes my 622 1 room HD 1 room SD DVRs service and local channels)
Addtional Vip 722k $12( includes DVR and Lease Fee) 1 room HD 1 room SD DVR
Addtional Vip 211k $7 1 room HD
Protection plan $6
HBO $11
KTLA $1.50
$115.49


Directv The same setup would be
$75.99 for HD/DVR pack
$20 for 4 Addtional receivers
$15 for HBO
$6 for Protection Plan
$116.99




It would cost me $1 more for D*and I wouldn't get

1. Encore HD
2. Encore West
3. Encore Action
4. Encore Drama
5. Encore Love
6. Encore Mystery
7. Encore Wam
8. Encore Westerns
9. Hallmark Movie Channel HD
10. Lifetime HD
11. Lifetime Movie HD
12. Travel HD
13. WGN HD
14. HBO comedy HD
15. HBO 2 HD
16. HBO Signature HD
17. HBO Family HD
18. HBO Zone HD
19. ESPNU
20. Fox Soccer
21. Outdoor
22. TMC West
23. TMC Xtra West
24. Travel HD
25. KTLA.

So Yes D* is Clearly not the Bargin for me.
25 less channels then E* is giving me ,

and D* would be $1 dollar more per month,But D* would give me
Fuel HD
MLB HD
NBA HD
NHL HD,
LOGO
The 101 HD

Now With HD Platinum thats only $9 extra , Because I get $1 Off HBO now because Platinum counts as a Premium and that 4 premiums for $40 per month.
That Gives me
NBA HD
NHL HD
CI HD
Mav HD
FTV HD
Universal HD
Bet Jazz HD
LOGO HD
HDNet Movies HD
MGM HD
WFN HD
For a E* total of $124.49

bebop said:

I'm cracking up over your post.
Do you get more money if D* gets more subs?

BTW - I'd pay 2x as much if I switched from Dish Network to Direct TV for the most similar channels. No thanks. I could spend that ~$500/year somewhere else.

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I am sure you would. As I would pay more for my comparable package with Dish.

Instead of making a simple comment about you laughing, why don't you try instead to actually point out what I stated that is wrong.

BTW, I have made posts comparing what I pay to a comparable Dish package. The link below is one of the post I made. Please tell me were I am wrong. I truly want an accurate comparison.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1810245-post16.html

DodgerKing said:

I am sure you would. As I would pay more for my comparable package with Dish.

Instead of making a simple comment about you laughing, why don't you try instead to actually point out what I stated that is wrong.

BTW, I have made posts comparing what I pay to a comparable Dish package. The link below is one of the post I made. Please tell me were I am wrong. I truly want an accurate comparison.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1810245-post16.html

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Nothing's wrong, so there was nothing to point out. I'm just laughing because most everyone here in the Dish Network forum posts about Dish Network, and your post came out of nowhere and seemed like some kind of commercial or something. Lots of things make me chuckle here, so don't worry about it. Perhaps you took my post the wrong way. it's not a bad thing when you post something that makes me laugh.

Now on to your new info posted in the link you just gave:

Your current setup is the exact same one I would get to get the comparable one if I switched. I came up with $84 as well - so I think we are right on that one. I pay $41 for all that and get every national HD channel that Dish Network offers except: Fox, FoxBusiness, FX, Speed, VH1, MTV, Nick, Encore, BET. The only ones I would watch are Fox, FX and Nick (and probably Encore but I've never looked into it). That's pretty good and I've not on a promotional price. Thanks for the info.

my bad I didnt mean to start a war I was just curious on paper if Dish now offered more HD channels national/premiums than Directv. Sorry

Hemi 6.1 said:

My home System is as Follows

Classic 250 Gold HD DVR. Is $77.99 ( Includes my 622 1 room HD 1 room SD DVRs service and local channels)
Addtional Vip 722k $12( includes DVR and Lease Fee) 1 room HD 1 room SD DVR
Addtional Vip 211k $7 1 room HD
Protection plan $6
HBO $11
KTLA $1.50
$115.49


Directv The same setup would be
$75.99 for HD/DVR pack
$20 for 4 Addtional receivers
$15 for HBO
$6 for Protection Plan
$116.99




It would cost me $1 more for D*and I wouldn't get

1. Encore HD
2. Encore West
3. Encore Action
4. Encore Drama
5. Encore Love
6. Encore Mystery
7. Encore Wam
8. Encore Westerns
9. Hallmark Movie Channel HD
10. Lifetime HD
11. Lifetime Movie HD
12. Travel HD
13. WGN HD
14. HBO comedy HD
15. HBO 2 HD
16. HBO Signature HD
17. HBO Family HD
18. HBO Zone HD
19. ESPNU
20. Fox Soccer
21. Outdoor
22. TMC West
23. TMC Xtra West
24. Travel HD
25. KTLA.

So Yes D* is Clearly not the Bargin for me.
25 less channels then E* is giving me ,

and D* would be $1 dollar more per month,But D* would give me
Fuel HD
MLB HD
NBA HD
NHL HD,
LOGO
The 101 HD

Now With HD Platinum thats only $9 extra , Because I get $1 Off HBO now because Platinum counts as a Premium and that 4 premiums for $40 per month.
That Gives me
NBA HD
NHL HD
CI HD
Mav HD
FTV HD
Universal HD
Bet Jazz HD
LOGO HD
HDNet Movies HD
MGM HD
WFN HD
For a E* total of $124.49

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Is this new that Platinum counts as premium?

satjay said:

Is this new that Platinum counts as premium?

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No.
Top 250 is counted as a premium as well.
If you have Top 250,HD gold and HD Platinum. This is a 3 Premium package.
Thats how it shows up on your bill as well. And now you can add HBO for only $10.

Here, it's DirecTV, Dish, or Cox (which currently has 32 HD channels, soon to be at least 61).

My thing with each:

Cox: Great CSRs, but lagging in HD because of system upgrades
DirecTV: I've known some DirecTV pirates before...and I do remember seeing WTVR one time. That sparked my interests in local television (all I saw was RC6).
Dish: Good everywhere but striking local retransmission consent deals.

bebop said:

Nothing's wrong, so there was nothing to point out. I'm just laughing because most everyone here in the Dish Network forum posts about Dish Network, and your post came out of nowhere and seemed like some kind of commercial or something. Lots of things make me chuckle here, so don't worry about it. Perhaps you took my post the wrong way. it's not a bad thing when you post something that makes me laugh.

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Awww... I see. Sorry, misinterpreted your point.

I can see how it did seem like a commercial.

am7crew said:

my bad I didnt mean to start a war I was just curious on paper if Dish now offered more HD channels national/premiums than Directv. Sorry

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Nothing wrong with a formative discussion about the similarities and difference between the 2 providers.

Hemi 6.1 said:

Yes.
Leader in the most National HD,
Leader in the most Premium movies in HD
Leader in HD/ DVR wars
Leader in HD Price per channel.

But
Not Leader in HD Sports
Not Leader in HD PPV
Not Leader in HD PQ
Not Leader in HD VOD

Only My Opinion though .

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Sounds spot-on to me. Well put.