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Getting back into the Satellite thing was wondering if I could get some recommendations.
Background: A few years ago I moved into my grandpa's house and found 2 BUDs. One was disassembled and missing parts on the ground, and one was in place with an 80s C-band LNB. Picked a General Instruments 2400r on E bay. It worked great, I used it tell DCII was phased out...
Just installed a 30" FTA set up at a friend of the family's house (AMC-4 @ 101w) for religious broadcast. I received their old Dish 300, a universal KU LNB and broken receiver.
I picked up a SonicView-360 locally. Then I literally used a 2x4 and a ball peen hammer, to attach the universal LNB on the Dish 300 (pics)... Yes it works have over 80+ channels on Galaxy 19 (S:99 Q:20-40).
As I expected the FTA receiver doesn't like my BUD. It will turn on the LNB, but doesn't let me control the skew/H/V and I can't pick up anything on C-band with the FTA receiver...
This is my dilemma. I would like to use the BUD for both C and KU; however, I have read on many of these forums the size of the mesh will affect the Ku response.
How small must the mesh be to ignore the loss on the Ku band?
If I were to buy a new LNB for the BUD what should I look for and what should I stay away from?
Are there any Motor controllers that will allow me to utilize the FTA box (SV-360) to control the BUD's motor?
Background: A few years ago I moved into my grandpa's house and found 2 BUDs. One was disassembled and missing parts on the ground, and one was in place with an 80s C-band LNB. Picked a General Instruments 2400r on E bay. It worked great, I used it tell DCII was phased out...
Just installed a 30" FTA set up at a friend of the family's house (AMC-4 @ 101w) for religious broadcast. I received their old Dish 300, a universal KU LNB and broken receiver.
I picked up a SonicView-360 locally. Then I literally used a 2x4 and a ball peen hammer, to attach the universal LNB on the Dish 300 (pics)... Yes it works have over 80+ channels on Galaxy 19 (S:99 Q:20-40).
As I expected the FTA receiver doesn't like my BUD. It will turn on the LNB, but doesn't let me control the skew/H/V and I can't pick up anything on C-band with the FTA receiver...
This is my dilemma. I would like to use the BUD for both C and KU; however, I have read on many of these forums the size of the mesh will affect the Ku response.
How small must the mesh be to ignore the loss on the Ku band?
If I were to buy a new LNB for the BUD what should I look for and what should I stay away from?
Are there any Motor controllers that will allow me to utilize the FTA box (SV-360) to control the BUD's motor?
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Well, your General Instruments 2400 could be used to run the motor and skew the servo on your existing feedhorn, or . . .
Motor controller: Sadoun Gbox v3000, link in my signature, review in our Hardware Review department.
Controlled by a modern DVB FTA receiver.
Modern voltage controlled LNBF: CK-1 available at Sadoun or SatelliteAV, or DMX741 from WSI.
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These LNBFs are a little touchy to adjust for Ku reception, but many have mastered them.
Hole size on the BUD is generally recommended as being small enough to not pass a #2 pencil.
If you have a "perforated" dish (round holes punched in a sheet), then that test may be appropriate.
However, "expanded mesh" dishes may have diamond-shaped holes, and if the long direction is larger than the pencil, they might have reduced Ku reflectivity.
Give it a test and see.
There's a better feedhorn solution for a lot more money.
It's called an orthomode feed. eg: ADL or Bullseye II.
It takes two original style C-band LNBs, and two Ku-LNBs.
They are generally easier to fine tune, and will perform a little bit better.
Cost for feed, lnbs (from cheap to exotic), and a multiswitch to hook them all together could range up to $500 or $700 or more for new.
Lots less for used, but still a couple hundred dollars.
I'm not recommending, just trying to paint you the whole landscape.
Hopefully, others will add their suggestions and opposing views.
Well, your General Instruments 2400 could be used to run the motor and skew the servo on your existing feedhorn, or . . .
Motor controller: Sadoun Gbox v3000, link in my signature, review in our Hardware Review department.
Controlled by a modern DVB FTA receiver.
Modern voltage controlled LNBF: CK-1 available at Sadoun or SatelliteAV, or DMX741 from WSI.
(see gold sponsor links at the top of any page, here)
These LNBFs are a little touchy to adjust for Ku reception, but many have mastered them.
Hole size on the BUD is generally recommended as being small enough to not pass a #2 pencil.
If you have a "perforated" dish (round holes punched in a sheet), then that test may be appropriate.
However, "expanded mesh" dishes may have diamond-shaped holes, and if the long direction is larger than the pencil, they might have reduced Ku reflectivity.
Give it a test and see.
There's a better feedhorn solution for a lot more money.
It's called an orthomode feed. eg: ADL or Bullseye II.
It takes two original style C-band LNBs, and two Ku-LNBs.
They are generally easier to fine tune, and will perform a little bit better.
Cost for feed, lnbs (from cheap to exotic), and a multiswitch to hook them all together could range up to $500 or $700 or more for new.
Lots less for used, but still a couple hundred dollars.
I'm not recommending, just trying to paint you the whole landscape.
Hopefully, others will add their suggestions and opposing views.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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You're no fun.
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.
