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linuxman
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
I got my Vantage 1100S receiver a couple of weeks ago and have been scanning the skies with no problems since.

The only issue I ran into was my 15 year old 27" Phillips TV. I sit about 15 feet from where the TV is, and I found that I wasn't able to read the information on the "Info" screen without getting up and walking closer to the TV.

That started me to thinking about how to go about getting a bigger TV, and if I was going bigger, why not something that would display the nice HD channels the Vantage was finding. :)

I remembered the "Scrounger's Guide to Satellite TV" that I had read somewhere when I got into this hobby, and I think it was Hermitman who provided a copy for me almost 3 years ago. I posted a copy below for those who have not read it. It opens in Wordpad with a nice format.

I took that guide to heart, especially hunting for satellite equipment. You can read for yourself my "Adventures In Dish Hunting" threads in the C-Band section.

So I thought, how can I go about finding a cheap way to get a bigger TV for my receiver? Some of you might be saying to yourself at this point, why have an FTA HD receiver if I don't have a TV to display it on? Or you could be saying, how can I afford an HD receiver and an HD TV?

Well, the answer is simple.

Scrounge!!!!

HD FTA receiver prices are dropping like rocks. You can get great FTA receivers for $100.00 on Ebay, and I am about to show you how to get an HDTV for really cheap.

I went to my local Craig's List for St. Louis and just typed in TV in the search. There are right now over 1000 TVs listed in the past 6 days, and there are many "older technology" TVs listed. The economy is bad, and if people aren't using these older units any more, they are shucking them for whatever they can get. If you want to spend up to $350.00, you can get Plasmas. :yikes:

"Older Technology" means rear projection, Big Screen HD TVs for as little as $150.00 and cheaper. Some of them are free for the pickup and hauling away, but most of them need work of some kind or another. After doing some research, most of the problems can be fixed with relatively inexpensive parts bought online and put in yourself.

My electronics neighbor across the street tells me these older huge TVs were designed to be fixed in the field. The technician goes in with a repair kit of boards etc. and fixes it on the spot. The service manuals are available, and probably half the guys on this forum can do electronics of one type or another. :cool:

I watched for about a week, and inquired about several of them and settled on a particular model. Just remember to do your research. Big does not always equal 1080i display. There are lots of huge TVs out there that only do 480i. :eek:

The model for sale was a Toshiba 42h82. I posted a picture below. The guy wanted $150.00 for it, but guaranteed it to work. I didn't want to have to immediately work on the TV, so I was looking for one that worked at the outset.

The other thing to remember is that these types of TVs are "BIG", and "HEAVY". They also "NEED" to be transported upright.

The one I got was 46.5 inches tall and weighs about 80 pounds. If it is bigger, it will be taller, and much heavier. I had to borrow a box trailer from a buddy to haul mine home, but my Son and I had no problems lifting and carrying it.

I actually paid $100.00 for mine. We got it home, and hooked it up using only component video since this one was before HDMI inputs. :)

All I can say is WOW. It works great!!! It pulls in all the HD TV channels that my Vantage can display with an excellent picture in 1080i. It is a 42" screen, and I am ecstatic!!

So now along with "Dish Hunting", you can start "TV Hunting" too.

Here are the Scrounger's Guide, and a stock pic of my "Cheap" HD TV.

EDIT: I forgot to say that I can now see the "Info" screen information without a problem. :D

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Inno
Nice pic tvropro, I used to have an equalizer just like that one, it's a Realistic from Rat Shack right? I also still have a Laser Disc player just like that pioneer unit you have.....well, very similar to it. Nice job building it in! I'll have to post some pics of the home theater in my "new" house. Just realized all the pics I have up in the HT pic area are of my old place.

My first HD set I had to purchase. Actually it's my only HD set unless you count the projector in my HT which is native 720......At my last job I worked as a tech. for a retail electronics store so I got my 51" Hitachi rear projo just over cost.
I agree there are some smoking deals to be had if you have the room for a rear projection set. I'm not in the market for one as my TV needs are being more than met right now but I fix 'em too and if I needed one that's what I'd be doing. :)
Phottoman
Costco was having a clearance on their 62" rear projection sets a few years ago, they marked a $3000 set down to $1500. I saw that and left immediatly to go home and get my check book. Brought a friend back with his PU truck and carted it home. It wouldn't fit through the door of the apartment till we got it out of the box. LOVED that picture (oops, forgot to mention it was a Philips), and came with an add on, a 5.1 surround sound for $30 extra shipped from the factory.

OK, fast forward to two years ago this week. I had bought property in NW AZ, with a three bedroom trailor (12' X 65') and the living room wouldn't hold all we brought so we deligated one of the bedrooms as the "TV Room," but the darn thing was SO big that we could never watch the TV comfortably. The only way we could set this room up was for the TV to block the only window in the room, and sit about 5 feet from the TV. When we watched something that had dialog, it was like watching a tennis game, heads swivelling back and forth.

I mentioned to a co-worker that I had this big TV, they came over and looked at it, played a dvd, and showed them the only OTA HD station we could get, but they said they subbed to cable so that was no prob, and he offered me $1000 as is for the set.

WOW, I watch that TV for three years plus for $500.

Now if only I could find someone with a TV they wanted to sell for .... never mind, we have a TV 'fund' started that the CFO doesn't know about, and for her birthday, we are traveling to Las Vegas to FRYS and getting her a new flat scren TV.

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Nice pic tvropro, I used to have an equalizer just like that one, it's a Realistic from Rat Shack right? I also still have a Laser Disc player just like that pioneer unit you have.....well, very similar to it. Nice job building it in! I'll have to post some pics of the home theater in my "new" house. Just realized all the pics I have up in the HT pic area are of my old place.

Yes the EQ is a RS my LD is a Pioneer CLD 1080 (1990 vintage) I like the built in look the best it adds a touch of class. :) I hung the LCD in the rack then trimmed it out.

Here's a shot of my video wall. I can't fit the whole thing in the camera shot but got what I could.
Inno
I've added some pics of my current home theater in the picture area under "current home theater".
All the FTA and 4DTV stuff is upstairs and that is a whole other system in itself.......pictures when I have time.
Anole
so, . . . how . . big . . IS it?

IF you watch 4:3 SD in the middle of your 16:9 HD screen....
... then it's the height of the picture you need to compare between existing 4:3 sets and your new HD toy.

The following table is based on picture height, and compares the two formats:

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[/FONT]Table of examples for common sizes:
  4:3 set size    equiv 16:9
      ========    =======
        19              23
        26              32  
        27              34
        30              37
        32              40
        34              42
        36              44
        38              47
        40              50
        42              52  
        45              55
        47              58
        52              64
        56              68
        60              74
Couple of obvious facts are:
- if you have a 26" 4:3, then you need a 32" HD just to be equal height.
- if you have a 32" 4:3, then you need a 40" HD just to be equal height.
(my 42" HD is lookin' pretty small, by comparison. :) )
T
You do loose height with 16x9 but you do gain width. I thought when I bought my 32 HD that it was going to be a big difference then the 32 SD I was replacing. But surprisingly to me the width made up the difference. I run all 4x3 content using Sharps Smart Stretch so it kept the picture bigger, I ended up happy :)
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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Bruce
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
Y
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
T
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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