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steve800x

Last reply Jul 9, 2009 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

I NEED HELP TUNING DISH

My dish with is a 5 lnb {only 3 really} slimline must of moved. I have a h 23 receiver. Most of my HD channels are gone . It says searching for signal 771.

101 is 94%
110 is 89%
119 is 94%
99a is 74%
99b is 0
103a is 0
103b is 0
I messed with this for almost a hour but the bugs won. I'm new at this so any help is more that I know now. I'm not sure how to tune this without losing my signal that i have now. At my friends house his 110 and 119 is at 0 but his 103a is 100 and 103b is 90. All I want is ch 278 and 282 back and I would be happy. Thanks for any help.

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harshness

Jul 4, 2009

If you've had the new setup for less than a month, call DIRECTV IMMEDIATELY.

You should confirm that the mast is rigid and plumb. Absent those two things, it will never sit still.

Joe Diamond

Jul 4, 2009

harshness said:
If you've had the new setup for less than a month, call DIRECTV IMMEDIATELY.

You should confirm that the mast is rigid and plumb. Absent those two things, it will never sit still.

AND

Check the satellite selection in MENU. Even though there is an option for 3LNB (phase 3) dish you are using a 5LNB (slimline). It is not uncommon for techs to select the 3LNB because they count the horns on the Ka/Ku dish and select the wrong dish.

Might be wrong but worth checking.

Also from the numbers it looks like you are a few degrees too far east. Try a few very slight AZ moves right / west with your 103 signal meter on. Position someone to call you with the numbers....work slowly...there is a bit of a time lag on the meters.

Joe

steve800x

Jul 4, 2009

Joe Diamond said:
AND

Check the satellite selection in MENU. Even though there is an option for 3LNB (phase 3) dish you are using a 5LNB (slimline). It is not uncommon for techs to select the 3LNB because they count the horns on the Ka/Ku dish and select the wrong dish.

Might be wrong but worth checking.

Also from the numbers it looks like you are a few degrees too far east. Try a few very slight AZ moves right / west with your 103 signal meter on. Position someone to call you with the numbers....work slowly...there is a bit of a time lag on the meters.

Joe

The dish type is 5 LNB ,Multi-sat
zip code is 13039
101 is 94
110 is 83
119 is 92
99a is 94
99b is 0
103a is 0
103b is 0
Elevation is 34
Tilt is 65
So your saying to just to move the Azimuth to the right slowly.
What about the Elevation or the tilt?
Thanks for you help.

Joe Diamond

Jul 4, 2009

steve800x said:
The dish type is 5 LNB ,Multi-sat
zip code is 13039
101 is 94
110 is 83
119 is 92
99a is 94
99b is 0
103a is 0
103b is 0
Elevation is 34
Tilt is 65
So your saying to just to move the Azimuth to the right slowly.
What about the Elevation or the tilt?
Thanks for you help.

Tilt rarely needs tuning....set it to the published number.
Assume the el is ok for now.

Mark the mast and dish base before moving the az...loosen the rear bolts only....move right very little. Watch as the signal on 103 goes up and then back down. Go back to the hightst point and tighten the rear bolts.

Push the top and bottom of the dish. If the signal improves adjust the el the same way.

You are close enough to also do this with the dither controls. I just won't spend the money on the meter.

Go slow....You are close.

Joe

steve800x

Jul 5, 2009

Joe Diamond said:
Tilt rarely needs tuning....set it to the published number.
Assume the el is ok for now.

Mark the mast and dish base before moving the az...loosen the rear bolts only....move right very little. Watch as the signal on 103 goes up and then back down. Go back to the hightst point and tighten the rear bolts.

Push the top and bottom of the dish. If the signal improves adjust the el the same way.

You are close enough to also do this with the dither controls. I just won't spend the money on the meter.

Go slow....You are close.

Joe

With the dither control knob I went west {right} with no luck yet. Do you think a couple of turns or a few degrees on the knob. I'm using a phone on speaker to listen for it {wife went shopping}. I'll be happy to hear something on 103. Does it matter if it on a or b. I was using a with no luck. This can stress you out when it so close. I need a beer. LOL Thanks again for your help.
Steve

Joe Diamond

Jul 5, 2009

steve800x said:
With the dither control knob I went west {right} with no luck yet. Do you think a couple of turns or a few degrees on the knob. I'm using a phone on speaker to listen for it {wife went shopping}. I'll be happy to hear something on 103. Does it matter if it on a or b. I was using a with no luck. This can stress you out when it so close. I need a beer. LOL Thanks again for your help.
Steve

You will see the 101 change first. It will probably go up and then down a little..still in the 90s...then you will see the 103 begin to move. The idea is a compromise to hit all three (or five) sats from the same dish. Any move you make moves the whole rig in that same direction.

I would still suggest pushing the dish through the compass line (az) (rear bolts only) until you hit the 103... then dither if you want. Just loosen the dither lock down bolts before you start and tune one parameter at a time. Tighten all at the end.

Some other numbers to know.........signal below 70 is too low for activation..tune
more.
.........signal below 40 you start to loose picture &
sound as during a storm
The Ka (99 & 103) HD .....will go down & out first in storms
The Ku 101 (110 &119) .......will be easier to find and will work better / longer
in storm conditions

...signals in the 90s on all sats are not hard to hit
even without a Birdog meter......that meter
cannot "see" the Ka sats anyhow.

I never paid attention to the a / b or conus (c) and spot beam(s). They seem to vary from receiver type to type.

Somebody on here knows. They may even have recent info on a receiver lock out program that shuts you out of the receiver if you don't get a signal promptly. You might even want to do a reset before continuing.
Check for the presence of audio and video on your screen. Examine the signal meter results. Channel 362 is a good HD test. If that is there the rest will be ok.

Joe

FED-UP-INSTALLER

Jul 6, 2009

force a download and make sure there are no bbcs installed?!?

hancox

Jul 6, 2009

Hmmmm - I would tend to think that it's just about impossible to get readings on 99a, 101, 110, 119, and NOTHING on the other 3 birds.

Anyone else think bad LNB here?

steve800x

Jul 6, 2009

FED-UP-INSTALLER said:
force a download and make sure there are no bbcs installed?!?

I'm not sure what you mean.

steve800x

Jul 6, 2009

Joe Diamond said:
You will see the 101 change first. It will probably go up and then down a little..still in the 90s...then you will see the 103 begin to move. The idea is a compromise to hit all three (or five) sats from the same dish. Any move you make moves the whole rig in that same direction.

I would still suggest pushing the dish through the compass line (az) (rear bolts only) until you hit the 103... then dither if you want. Just loosen the dither lock down bolts before you start and tune one parameter at a time. Tighten all at the end.

Some other numbers to know.........signal below 70 is too low for activation..tune
more.
.........signal below 40 you start to loose picture &
sound as during a storm
The Ka (99 & 103) HD .....will go down & out first in storms
The Ku 101 (110 &119) .......will be easier to find and will work better / longer
in storm conditions

...signals in the 90s on all sats are not hard to hit
even without a Birdog meter......that meter
cannot "see" the Ka sats anyhow.

I never paid attention to the a / b or conus (c) and spot beam(s). They seem to vary from receiver type to type.

Somebody on here knows. They may even have recent info on a receiver lock out program that shuts you out of the receiver if you don't get a signal promptly. You might even want to do a reset before continuing.
Check for the presence of audio and video on your screen. Examine the signal meter results. Channel 362 is a good HD test. If that is there the rest will be ok.

Joe

I messed with this all day yesterday with no luck.
101 is 94
110 is 85
119 is 90
99a is 89
99b is 0
103a is 0
103b is 0
Channel 362 says seaching for sat signal.
The only thing that I did not try was to go left on the az which would be south.
I tried using my gps as a compass but unless your moving there not that good. My little one had my small compass and now its mia. If I'm getting most of the sat's I must be facing the correct way I think. Some HD channels work like ch 281 but not ch 282. Is the window that small for 103? Would going south on the az be it maybe. I hate when I can't figure things out. I even went on my friends roof. He has a slimline with only 1 {3} lnb's .His elev and tilt are the same as mine. Same H 23 receiver. His 103 was 100 on a and 90 on b.
I hate to give up but I'm almost there.

boba

Jul 6, 2009

You have a 90 day installation warranty call Directv before you screw things up and lose what you have for satellites.

steve800x

Jul 9, 2009

Joe Diamond said:
You will see the 101 change first. It will probably go up and then down a little..still in the 90s...then you will see the 103 begin to move. The idea is a compromise to hit all three (or five) sats from the same dish. Any move you make moves the whole rig in that same direction.

I would still suggest pushing the dish through the compass line (az) (rear bolts only) until you hit the 103... then dither if you want. Just loosen the dither lock down bolts before you start and tune one parameter at a time. Tighten all at the end.

Some other numbers to know.........signal below 70 is too low for activation..tune
more.
.........signal below 40 you start to loose picture &
sound as during a storm
The Ka (99 & 103) HD .....will go down & out first in storms
The Ku 101 (110 &119) .......will be easier to find and will work better / longer
in storm conditions

...signals in the 90s on all sats are not hard to hit
even without a Birdog meter......that meter
cannot "see" the Ka sats anyhow.

I never paid attention to the a / b or conus (c) and spot beam(s). They seem to vary from receiver type to type.

Somebody on here knows. They may even have recent info on a receiver lock out program that shuts you out of the receiver if you don't get a signal promptly. You might even want to do a reset before continuing.
Check for the presence of audio and video on your screen. Examine the signal meter results. Channel 362 is a good HD test. If that is there the rest will be ok.

Joe

Does anyone know if I have a 90% on 99a with 0 on 99b. I've be just using 103a to find the signal. Am I suppose to use 103b. I hope thats the problem why I can't find anything on 103.Please left me know. Thanks again for all the help.

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Monday at 9:37 PM

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Yespage

Thursday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Thursday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Thursday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Thursday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Thursday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

Yespage

Yesterday at 10:04 AM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.

AZ. said:
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 6:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

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Are you experiencing an issue with your 3rd party remote since the newest Hopper update?

Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.

If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.

Thanks!
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david_jr

Oct 5, 2026

I lost IR control of my H3 after the H398 update in September of 25. We were using the Harmony Hub remote system from Logitech. We have been using the H3 OEM remote to turn the receiver on and off ever since then.

H398 Software Version

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bookworm370

Monday at 9:50 AM

I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

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GRB1959

Monday at 10:31 AM

bookworm370 said:
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

Excellent suggestion.

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david_jr

Tuesday at 6:15 PM

david_jr said:
I lost IR control of my H3 after the H398 update in September of 25. We were using the Harmony Hub remote system from Logitech. We have been using the H3 OEM remote to turn the receiver on and off ever since then.

H398 Software Version

BTW my bedroom H3 does not have this problem where I am using a Harmony 650. Also has there been any more feedback? Are they still working on this or what?

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Foxbat

Tuesday at 6:49 PM

I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

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JeffN9

Tuesday at 7:14 PM

Foxbat said:
I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.

A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won

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bookworm370

Today at 3:13 PM

GRB1959 said:
Excellent suggestion.

Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years!

Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!

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Astroman3427

50 minutes ago

Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.

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JohnGalt1234

Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

H3 EHD lists upcoming airings instead of recordings on EHD and often won't recognize EHD is connected after reboot

This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!

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Almighty1

Today at 6:55 PM

Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.

At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.

This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.

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JohnGalt1234

Today at 6:55 PM

Sorry about dupe images... having a heck of a time trying to post an image of other H3 that my gf text to me.

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JohnGalt1234

Today at 6:56 PM

JohnGalt1234 said:
Sorry about dupe images... having a heck of a time trying to post an image of other H3 that my gf text to me.

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JohnGalt1234

Today at 7:00 PM

Almighty1 said:
Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.

At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.

View attachment 194853

This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.

The image I just sent for master H3 is on hopper+., casino is not but both Vs and bootstraps are the same.

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Almighty1

52 minutes ago

JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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dfergie

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Last reply 55 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

Homemade Breakfast Sausage

Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...

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navychop

Today at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Today at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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dfergie

Today at 10:17 AM

They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)

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TRG

Today at 6:19 PM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

reubenray

Today at 6:38 PM

TRG said:
Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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No Kroger's near me. I live in the heart of Walmart land. The only option besides Walmart is Harp's.

TRG

Today at 6:41 PM

reubenray said:
I live in the heart of Walmart land.

My deepest condolences.

reubenray

55 minutes ago

TRG said:
My deepest condolences.

Surprisingly I moved here from the Gulf Coast due to the heat. But it has been hotter here due to the heat domes than it did down there.

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Peter Parker

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Last reply Today at 6:40 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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cpdretired

Oct 7, 2026

Two bugs out and three new bugs in.

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Almighty1

Oct 7, 2026

Updated to H713 on a Hopper 3 from H712 with Hopper Plus a few hours earlier.

It brought a old problem back:

One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software.

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency but it's broken again.

Rick Durham and brittanygarden

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dishstaller

Oct 7, 2026

cpdretired said:
Two bugs out and three new bugs in.

Yep. Just got a call from a customer who said her DVR buttons stopped working. Told her about the new software and had her reboot her H3, problem solved.

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bookworm370

Monday at 9:56 AM

dishstaller said:
Yep. Just got a call from a customer who said her DVR buttons stopped working. Told her about the new software and had her reboot her H3, problem solved.

Reboot just fixes it for a short time and then it's back to messed up

Try going exclusively to an IR remote and you will see the pain

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Almighty1

Wednesday at 7:51 PM

Almighty1 said:
Updated to H713 on a Hopper 3 from H712 with Hopper Plus a few hours earlier.

It brought a old problem back:

One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software.

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency but it's broken again.

Rick Durham and brittanygarden

Within the last few hours as I did check earlier today when it was still missing, the Available Joey Software line now has added "P154 P15403" which is for the Hopper Plus that I have but my Hopper Plus software is still on P15317, I will do a Download Android TV (ATV) Software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey which are all Android TV devices and then manually do a check update on the Hopper Plus to update the software shortly.

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BatStang2000

Today at 1:29 PM

This happened to me. I was outside mowing and my wife came out and said that our nieces and nephews were going to be on the Noon News. She had it on in the bedroom on our Joey3. Since they weren't on yet, I decided to turn it on in the Living Room on our Hopper3. When I selected the channel (through Dish, not OTA) the Joey3 turned itself off. When I went back to the bedroom to turn it back on, the Hopper3 did a reboot. Luckily it all finished before their story came on, but I just found it strange.

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bookworm370

Today at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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reubenray

Today at 6:40 PM

I got the 713 update yesterday.

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cpdretired

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Last reply Today at 4:35 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Thursday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 3:07 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.