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Pansat 9200 HDMI audio

"The Pansat 9200 had a HDMI output and the HDTV I have has 2 HDMI inputs so I used one cable and got both audio & video through that HDMI cable." ---Iceberg 4/18/2008

I am attempting to relay my Pansat 9200HD HDMI to my Panasonic G10 plasma and I have yet to get the HDMI audio working (video works well). In your setup as mentioned above is the audio emanating from the TV speakers or do you output the optical audio from the TV to a Dolby receiver for the sound?

I have, on the same Panasonic HDMI input, successfully taken signals from my computer HDMI output as well as from a Monoprice #4631 component+Dolby converter (to HDMI) [component out of my HDD200 and Dolby out of the Motorola 922 coax] which does provide audio from the TV speakers. Thus, the Panasonic seems correctly setup.

The Pansat 9200HD literature mentions only video when relating to HDMI output. Software version is 1226 and confirmed as the latest factory version just a couple weeks back by a Pansat tech.

The Pansat is 100' from the TV but the extender works flawlessly.
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Grimgnaw
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The cable used for testing the Pansat was the same one used for the successful tests of the computer and HDD200 as it was dragged around to each output to iron out problems before any are installed for keeps.

Further, as I mentioned video works fine. HDMI is a bit stream including both audio and video and hardware problems would diminish both.

While the manual for the Pansat is more complete than many FTA units it is still wanting in detail, such as for specs of the hardware. My next step will be to disassemble it to determine chip mfg and numbers to get the respective datasheets describing their capabilities. I have gone thru both the Pansat and Panasonic manuals with a fine tooth comb.

This particular 9200HD was manufactured in June of 2008.

The audio may be there in a form not compatible with the L-PCM required by the Panasonic but the comment of Iceberg, as referenced, in my initial post implies there is something I could be missing. The tech at Panerax I talked to last might be the next logical step if no owner specifically states he is using the HDMI output and getting the audio as well as the video.

Thanks for the interest.
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Grimgnaw
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With the HDMI input from my computer or from the Monoprice converter the sound is present on the Panasonic immediately. I tried your suggestion previously and now again after seeing your post with no positive result. Do you have an 8PSK tuner in your Pansat? I do not.
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Grimgnaw said:
With the HDMI input from my computer or from the Monoprice converter the sound is present on the Panasonic immediately. I tried your suggestion previously and now again after seeing your post with no positive result. Do you have an 8PSK tuner in your Pansat? I do not.
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Yes i have the new blind scan versioin. Seems like i may have turned the pansat off/on at the switch and have sound come on also. i also have to turn up volume all the way on pansat then adjust with tv
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Grimgnaw said:
The audio may be there in a form not compatible with the L-PCM required by the Panasonic but the comment of Iceberg, as referenced, in my initial post implies there is something I could be missing. The tech at Panerax I talked to last might be the next logical step if no owner specifically states he is using the HDMI output and getting the audio as well as the video.
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Why are you assuming that the Audio from the Pansat is always Linear PCM?. Some FTA channels use DD either 2.0 or 5.1 , make sure you are testing with a TV channel that uses PCM instead of DD. It is just a thought and very less likely to have happened but you loose nothing by checking. I assume you do not have an AV Receiver HDMI capable otherwise you would not probably have this issue now.

Also with any audio track the receiver has 2 choices , either send it as PCM or as DD (even if originally was PCM it could encode it as DD 2.0 and send it as DD). Check the settings on your pansat and make sure about this. Some equipment even have the choice to use both , like PCM & DD, and eventually will basically passthrough the original track without re-encoding. This scenario is more likely to be the issue here. Although I would assume that the Panasonic TV is capable of decoding DD since it probably also have an ATSC tuner.

3rd option , last but not least, a Linear PCM audio track could have different sampling rate , up to 192 khz I beleive now a days. It is common to have equipment that can handle up to 96 khz but not every equipment could handle PCM at 192 khz. Although I doubt the Pansat is acctually re-encoding the audio to PCM at 192 Khz , as the Panarex tech , you have to verify this as well. The best option , connect it to a powerfull AV receiver via HDMI, like the Onkyo 605 , just to mention one, and it will tell you not only it is PCM , how many channels (PCM could also be multichannel 7.1) but also will tell you the sampling rate. If the Panasonic can not handle PCM high sampling rates (even 96 khz) and the Pansat is using 96 Khz or the original audio track is 96 khz then this is the issue here.

Other than that , I have no idea what else to come up with.
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Response to "Det1000":
That particular 8PSK tuner was a good choice of the four available I know of. When the FTA available channels justify the added heat in the box I expect to do the same. Thanks for the info.

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I had no assumption about the format output from the Pansat, but did have an assumption about what the Panasonic required to produce sound. The Panasonic G10 manual has this in their "Technical Information" section:

Applicable audio signal sampling frequencies (L.PCM): 48kHz,44.1 kHz, 32kHz

There is no reference to any other format such as Dolby therein, although this does not exclude any possibility. Since this TV does have a Toslink optical output it was my thinking that if Dolby was present it would show up as an output there as a substitute for any internal decoding to produce stereo for on board speakers. That is why I asked the question earlier about the source of the audio being from the TV speakers or from a Dolby capable receiver.

The Pansat 9200HD is one FTA receiver that does itself decode Dolby and presents it in stereo as well as a Toslink output.. What they include in the HDMI bit stream is unknown to me at this point but is, of course, part of what this query is about. It is not described in any Pansat literature that I have found yet. In fact in the Pansat 9200HD manual they only refer to the HDMI content as including video with no mention of audio, again cause for my interest.

You are right that this is the first HDMI capable receiver I have owned. My 1998 Panasonic 32" CRT was too reliable to dispose of till now and my 2004 Sony flat screen TV had a DVI input.

The Pansat receiver has no settings, hardware or software, for what it sends via HDMI. As I mentioned above it does not even say audio is on board the HDMI even in its features section. One note of interest is that the Panasonic manual also in its technical section states the following in a footnote:

The HDMI logo is displayed on an HDMI-compliant device.

There is no HDMI logo on the Pansat 9200HD although there is a Dolby logo and 3 others not relevant to audio.

The ATSC tuner on the Panasonic and any decoding it does is not necessarily relevant for HDMI input.

The sampling rates the Panasonic can handle for the L.PCM are noted above. Yeah, I think I will contact the Pansat tech again and pose the sampling rate and format question. After the answer I got for the general question relating to the HDMI producing perfect video and no audio, that the output connector was likely separated from the PC board, I gave up.

The comments of LYNSKYN, ICEBERG and DST100 do provide solid evidence that the audio is onboard of their 9200HD HDMI output, and one even has a Panasonic TV consistent with the brand I have.

Another clue of interest, as mentioned in my earlier post, is that I have a Monoprice Converter (#4631) which transforms component video and Toslink (or coax) SPDIF (Dolby) into an HDMI signal which my Panasonic can produce picture and sound from. I used the coax (Dolby) input.

I very much appreciate your interest and comments.
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After checking lots of TV stations the sampling rate does not hold much water since they use 48 khz, nor the other 2 options I gave after re-reading other posters. I am thinking that maybe the HDMI audio output capability on your Pansat is defective, if under warranty try replacing it.

Even with pay tv provider HDMI receivers there has been issues with certain audio or video equipment so the best bet is to wait until someone who has the same set up post their experience or if you could try a second pansat. I could not find any relevant info on the net. I really have nothing else to think about. Sorry I could not help any further.
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Developments on the question of Pansat's HDMI audio content may be more of a Panasonic G10 TV problem.

Long discussions with the Panasonic "tech" led to no conclusion on the capabilities of the G10 although he agreed that it should be able to produce stereo (Pro Logic) even when fed the 5.1 or other Dolby audio via HDMI. He consulted with another, who referenced signal strength as the likely problem. This is unreasonable in that the video would be affected as well and it is perfect. HDMI video and audio are both carried on the same 4 differential-pair of signals.

On one chat site it was revealed that the Toslink output of the G10 provided only 2 channel audio when full Dolby was provided on the HDMI and that the HDMI had to first be fed to the AV receiver and then passed on to the TV to get 5.1 Dolby.

Internet searches revealed a G10 and V10 Onkyo HDMI compatibility problem. New firmware was released to correct same. I hooked up my internet to the G10 and installed the latest Panasonic firmware update (Ver 1.190), with no change in solving the missing audio problem on HDMI.

I checked a movie which I played from my computer file using the KM Player, where the audio comes through the HDMI on the G10, and it is 2 channel at 44.1K sample rate.

The Monoprice #4631 produced HDMI, which worked initially with the HDD200 component video as input and the Motorola 922 digital audio as input, is now also without audio on the G10 Panasonic TV unkike the original test. I am trying to repeat that success. By the way I have tried channels with and without DD (Dolby) into the Pansat. I now realize the the original success with the #4631 was using the 922 digital output port and not the HDD200 digital output port. This may be significant. The 922 audio output can be controlled and was originally set to SURROUND sound. The HDD200 indicates when Dolby Digital is received and possibly always provides the full Dolby to its coax port. No variation of the output setting of the 922 audio format (MONO, STEREO, SURROUND, DOLBY) has restored the audio relative to the G10 TV.

It is beginning to look like the problem is more Panasonic G10 series centered than Pansat 9200HD.
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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Works every time. My wife needs one.
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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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AI thread

A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.


View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k


We've literally got a movie already about this ;)


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Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.
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Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.
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That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.
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That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.
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Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.
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... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.
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Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.
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Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.
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You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.
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Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.
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I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.
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I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.
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Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

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There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.
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This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.
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Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.
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Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.

That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:

www.eweek.com

Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”

An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.
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XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.

Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.

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Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.



This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.
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You invested in datacenters?
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You invested in datacenters?
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Though, I do have stocks in my portfolio that benefit from data centers.
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This Week in Tech 1105

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SXM still giving discounts

My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
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I tried to do that, when I did delivery driver work (2010- 2013), we had a fleet of Freightliners. The newer trucks had headunits that were satellite compatible (XM only I think), but lacked the antenna and guts. I got a car kt for my old Roady XT and tried to use it, but at the volume levels I needed have it at to hear it over the diesel engine it sounded like crap, so I used my phone with an aux cable. When I was in the middle of nowhere with no cell service it didn't do me any good though.

At my current job, one of our new cars has the free trial of SXM active, I frequently have to go off site to a location 75 miles away in a rural area and it's nice being able to use the service off of the satellites versus using the app. There are many places on this journey where all three providers lack service.
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
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yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
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You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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