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Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Got a iPhone 3GS Today

My wife has been having trouble with her cell phone for a few weeks now, so today while I was setting up for tonights SatelliteGuys Family Fun night she told me she needed to run to the store.

She was gone for about an hour and came back with an AT&T bag in her hand smiling. In it was a brand new 32 GB Black iPhone 3GS.

She handed to it to me and she told me she would take my old phone and handed me the new 3GS. It only took me a few second to open the box and get her sim card removal tool and pop the Sim card for her iPhone and my iPhone.

A few moments later I now had my Simcard in the new phone and booted it up.

I only had a few moments to play with it. I played with the camera and was surprised how good the pictures looked, I also took a short demo video, again was impressed with what I saw.

The apps do load faster n the 3GS, but the internet was about the same.

I cant wait to play with it tomorrow. I need to format it again as when it restored things its copied all the apps to the phone instead of only the apps I want on there.

And then I got to Jailbreak it. ;) :D

Thanks to my wife for the upgrade. :)
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riffjim4069
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Yikes! I am still using my Sprint Mogul that I picked-up two years ago when you got yours. It works just fine, but I have been looking at the new phones. The only problem is I don't feel like losing my SERO plan and wind-up paying 3X for a data plan.
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digiblur
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riffjim4069 said:
Yikes! I am still using my Sprint Mogul that I picked-up two years ago when you got yours. It works just fine, but I have been looking at the new phones. The only problem is I don't feel like losing my SERO plan and wind-up paying 3X for a data plan.
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I picked up the Touch pro for like $60 when I did an exchange since my wheel was acting up and buttons on the keyboard were going out. It would have been free if I had the insurance. You can still swap yours ;)

The Touch Pro is miles ahead of the Mogul...and I loved that phone! Love the $30 SERO cell phone bill even more ;)
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digiblur said:
I picked up the Touch pro for like $60 when I did an exchange since my wheel was acting up and buttons on the keyboard were going out. It would have been free if I had the insurance. You can still swap yours ;)

The Touch Pro is miles ahead of the Mogul...and I loved that phone! Love the $30 SERO cell phone bill even more ;)
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Digi,

Are you telling me that you were able to upgrade to the Touch Pro and still retain your $30 plan? My Sprint account says that I am due for a phone upgrade (new 2-year agreement), but I was provided with the following message when I click "update", "Everything Plus Referral Program (formerly Sprint Exclusive Referral Offer/SERO). Please visit Everything Plus(SM) Referral Program to complete your Everything Plus phone upgrade, or you may call an Everything Plus sales representative by phone at 1-888-882-4030 to place your order." So I called.

Anyway, I was told that I can keep my $30 SERO Plan only if I select a phone with a $50 rebate. Any phone with a $100+ rebate will move me into an Everything Plus Referral Plan ($59 for basically the same plan I currently have plus Sprint TV (which I don't use often and don't need thanks to my Slingbox) and GPS (also don't need since we have Garmins). In a nutshell, the $100 rebate covers all of their PDA/Smartphones: Blackberry Curve, Palm Pre, HTC Touch Pro, etc.

Needless to say, I passed on the offer since my old Mogul is in excellent shape and the offer didn't sound like much of an offer. To be honest, the sales rep was trying her best to force me off of my SERO Plan...not sure if she shaded the truth, but she sure appeared to be working on commission.

Maybe I will have to call another CSR...
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riffjim4069 said:
Digi,

Are you telling me that you were able to upgrade to the Touch Pro and still retain your $30 plan? My Sprint account says that I am due for a phone upgrade (new 2-year agreement), but I was provided with the following message when I click "update", "Everything Plus Referral Program (formerly Sprint Exclusive Referral Offer/SERO). Please visit Everything Plus(SM) Referral Program to complete your Everything Plus phone upgrade, or you may call an Everything Plus sales representative by phone at 1-888-882-4030 to place your order." So I called.

Anyway, I was told that I can keep my $30 SERO Plan only if I select a phone with a $50 rebate. Any phone with a $100+ rebate will move me into an Everything Plus Referral Plan ($59 for basically the same plan I currently have plus Sprint TV (which I don't use often and don't need thanks to my Slingbox) and GPS (also don't need since we have Garmins). In a nutshell, the $100 rebate covers all of their PDA/Smartphones: Blackberry Curve, Palm Pre, HTC Touch Pro, etc.

Needless to say, I passed on the offer since my old Mogul is in excellent shape and the offer didn't sound like much of an offer. To be honest, the sales rep was trying her best to force me off of my SERO Plan...not sure if she shaded the truth, but she sure appeared to be working on commission.

Maybe I will have to call another CSR...
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Yep, all I did was go to the link below... punch in my phone info and they sent me a new Touch Pro. Even threw in an extra battery. If I would have had the insurance it would have been free. Once the phone came in, I called them up to activate it, the lady said she couldn't activate it on my plan but I told her that I have friends with Touch Pro's on the same plan, she came back a few minutes later and it was on the account.

You're not going to pry my SERO plan from my fingers! ;)

https://indirect3.sprint.com/apps/advanceexchange/aeCriteria.do?method=displayCriteria&FROM_SPRINT=Y
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TomTom is now available for iphone...$99.99
App Shopper: TomTom U.S. & Canada (Navigation)
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DodgerKing
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rglore said:
TomTom is now available for iphone...$99.99
App Shopper: TomTom U.S. & Canada (Navigation)
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Not worth $100. Not even worth $50. If it was $30 or less, then I may get it. I don't want my phone tied up using a $100 app. I rather pay $300 for a stand alone.

The free Google Maps app does exactly what I need it to do.
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HD MM
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DodgerKing said:
Not worth $100. Not even worth $50. If it was $30 or less, then I may get it. I don't want my phone tied up using a $100 app. I rather pay $300 for a stand alone.

The free Google Maps app does exactly what I need it to do.
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Does it speak? Can it be mounted safely for a driver to see his/her path of destination?

I was all about Google Maps too, before I invested in a stand-alone Garmin GPS.
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HD MM said:
Does it speak? Can it be mounted safely for a driver to see his/her path of destination?

I was all about Google Maps too, before I invested in a stand-alone Garmin GPS.
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Are these questions about Google Maps or the Tom Tom app?
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digiblur said:
Yep, all I did was go to the link below... punch in my phone info and they sent me a new Touch Pro. Even threw in an extra battery. If I would have had the insurance it would have been free. Once the phone came in, I called them up to activate it, the lady said she couldn't activate it on my plan but I told her that I have friends with Touch Pro's on the same plan, she came back a few minutes later and it was on the account.

You're not going to pry my SERO plan from my fingers! ;)

https://indirect3.sprint.com/apps/advanceexchange/aeCriteria.do?method=displayCriteria&FROM_SPRINT=Y
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Well, I called a short while ago and this time I was told that I could indeed keep my current $30 SERO Plan if I upgraded to the HTC Touch Pro. Cool. I was going to place my order when I was told the price would be $299.99 net ($579.99 less $180.00 instant discount and mail-in rebate) which was $150 more than the $149.99 price I was quoted yesterday. I asked what happened to my $150 Eligible upgrade that is reflected on my account, and I was told that it was already reflected in the instant discount. Huh? I kindly thanked her and ended the call.

If Sprint is trying to frustrate me to the point of jumping-ship and signing-up with AT&T they re doing a good job. Shouldn't I be able to upgrade to an HTC Touch Pro for $579.99 (retail), minus $180 Instant Savings (with new 2-year agreement), minus $150 Eligible Upgrade, minus $100 mail-in rebate?

The one thing I noticed in the "eligible upgrade" fine print was that it was good for any plan $39.99 and higher which may disqualify my current SERO Plan. If so, the CSRs should at least be able to explain what discounts are and are not being applied during a phone upgrade. Why have a $150 upgrade credit if you cannot use it. Apparently if you dump the $30 SERO and opt for the $59.99 Everything Referal Plan then you get the $150 Eligible Upgrade; if you keep the $30 SERO you can upgrade to a non-Blackberry PDA but you don't get the $150 Eligible Upgrade; if you upgrade to the Blackberry you are automatically moved into the $59.99 Everything Referal Plan or higher and also the $150 Eligible Upgrade discount. Confused? Me too! :confused:
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DodgerKing said:
Are these questions about Google Maps or the Tom Tom app?
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It was a rhetorical question, but I was talking about the Google Maps.
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DodgerKing said:
Not worth $100. Not even worth $50. If it was $30 or less, then I may get it. I don't want my phone tied up using a $100 app. I rather pay $300 for a stand alone.

The free Google Maps app does exactly what I need it to do.
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Google maps is nice but as I have stated in other threads you pretty much need a copilot to use it properly. Driving by yourself using google maps can be a challenge to use.

I really wish they would have a evaluation of the Tom Tom software to see how it works prior to spending the money on the application.
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They do have a "free evaluation".
It's called jailbreak and pirated apps!!
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digiblur
digiblur
riffjim4069 said:
Well, I called a short while ago and this time I was told that I could indeed keep my current $30 SERO Plan if I upgraded to the HTC Touch Pro. Cool. I was going to place my order when I was told the price would be $299.99 net ($579.99 less $180.00 instant discount and mail-in rebate) which was $150 more than the $149.99 price I was quoted yesterday. I asked what happened to my $150 Eligible upgrade that is reflected on my account, and I was told that it was already reflected in the instant discount. Huh? I kindly thanked her and ended the call.
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Well it is a known fact they are trying to get everyone off the SERO plans at any chance they can since they are not making money on those.

Do the advanced exchange and call it done... If you've had the Mogul that long you're bound to have a button going out somewhere ;) Very simple to do.

Need to pull these posts out and put them in a new thread since it isn't iphone discussion anymore.
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i'm still using a mogu; also but about 2 months ago i dropped it in the pool. how can i get around that? I do have insurance just haven't replaced it since it still works.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Macbook PROLED XDR Impressions: They Said They Wouldn't!

Time for another AWESOME video from Marques Brownlee!


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MacBook PROLED Nanotexture

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Microsoft's New Round of Employee Buyouts

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I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy


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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Bruce said:
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Jimbo said:
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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Bruce said:
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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Jimbo said:
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Jimbo said:
Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
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Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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savarese04 said:
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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I have turned some off, not others ...
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Jimbo said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u4rACh-Tt5k?feature=share
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Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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Ramy
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
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No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
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I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
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I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
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Ronnie- said:
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
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Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
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Ronnie- said:
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
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Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Jimbo said:
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
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Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


Jimbo said:
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Ronnie- said:
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.



But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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No, no ... if you want to make the playoffs, you want to Win it ... If you want to Win it, you need to Win 4-5 games in a row against Top 10 teams for the most part, theres a Possibility you'd play someone out side of the Top 10, but not much.

The Playoffs is a 4-5 game Win or Go Home.
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Two Hopper 3 DVRs Installation

Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
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You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub
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HipKat said:
You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub
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Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?
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DialgaChampion said:
Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?
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Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required
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DialgaChampion said:
Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
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Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?
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Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?
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No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.
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Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.
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SandFarmer said:
Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.
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You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....
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Bobby said:
You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....
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Yup. Been there done that many times over the past 29 years. Since not having it, I have found better and cheaper ways to get what little programming in need from it.

Just wondering how far down I can strip down all the gear on my chimney.

The 129 J-Arm grew an Outdoor Long Range AP. I already have several unused RJ lines that are going to be IPoE from the rack. Just wondering how much gear I'm going to be able to put up there.

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HipKat said:
Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required
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tjboston5676 said:
Yep just swap the lnb with a dpp lnb and connect the 42 switch.
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Finally got around to trying to set everything up. Need some help because I've got an issue.

1st Hopper 3 works fine.

2nd Hopper 3 doesn't show any channels in my Top 200 package in the guide, even though it's set to All Subscribed. But it does see the 1st Hopper 3 and can access the recordings on it.

Here's my setup:
  • DPP EA 61.5/72 LNB on the dish. 2 Coaxes going from LNB into the DPH42 switch.
  • DPH42 "Receiver 1" port > Power Inserter "To Switch" port..... Power Inserter "To Receiver" port > Duo Hub "ODU 1" port.
  • DPH42 "Receiver 2" port > Duo Hub "ODU 2" port.
  • 2 Coaxes from both Host ports on the Duo Hub into both Hopper 3s.
I've spent the last few hours troubleshooting, no success. I did the Test Installation on the Diagnostics screen. Red button. Held Power Button for 15 seconds.

Also tried several different configurations with the coax cables according to Google's AI suggestions. Tried connecting both a Solo Hub and a Duo Hub (I don't have 2 solo hubs at the moment), having each Hopper connected to each hub independently. Tried connecting Receiver 2 from the DPH42 directly into the 2nd Hopper 3. Tried having the Power Inserter connected both before and after the hub.

I even checked my account online. Both Hopper 3s are authorized and "Powered" on the account. Even tried "Wake Up Receivers". That second H3 still won't show my channels in the guide at all.

According to Google's AI, it thinks this is the problem:
  • - When you plug two Hopper 3 units into a single Duo Hub, the hub cannot allocate the correct satellite transponder frequencies to both boxes simultaneously.
  • - As a result, the first Hopper 3 hogs the satellite line, while the second Hopper 3 gets locked out of the satellite signal entirely—causing an empty guide and blocking live TV. The unlinked status on the whole-home screen occurs because the software recognizes the conflict and stops integration.
But none of its solutions have worked. Any ideas?
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Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment
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n0qcu said:
Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment
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Check Status complete. No issues found.
Test Installation screen shows green checks for 61.5 and 72, all 16 tuners.
Options > TV Activity shows 1 of 16 tuners in use.

When I bring up the program guide, the dish scapes channel appears and displays fine. The guide also shows the bonusview channels, and the stream and ppv channels.

I tried swapping the 2nd H3's cables with the 1st H3 and having it as the only H3 connected. It still has the same issue, so it seems isolated to the second Hopper 3 itself.

There was another suggestion from Google, not sure if it applies:

If the TV Activity Screen shows that your tuners are "Available" and "1 of 16 in use," your satellite signal path is 100% active and perfectly working. Your hardware wiring bypass has officially succeeded—the second Hopper 3 is successfully talking to the DPH42 switch, receiving high-frequency satellite data, and its internal processors are healthy. Because the hardware is fully operational, the fact that your screen is still black and the guide is missing means your receiver is stuck in Account Quarantine (Authorization Hold). Because a dual Hopper 3 system requires a non-standard account setup (32 tuners instead of the typical 16-tuner cap), standard "Wake Up" hits sent from the customer app or website are getting rejected by the system. The box can look at the data stream (which is why tuners show as available), but it is legally blocked by the internal software from decoding the live video feeds. To flip the switch and activate the live video feed, a DISH billing agent must manually push a tier-3 service re-hit through their legacy terminal.​

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No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.
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Why not upgrade to the joey 4 with is an android box and dump the 4k joey
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