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mdonnelly
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Here's some exciting news: :sarcasm:

" The Big 12 and Big East might play a bowl game in Yankee Stadium beginning in 2010. The game would take place between Christmas and New Year's and feature the seventh-place Big 12 team and the third- or fourth-place team in the Big East.

Big 12 officials told the New York Times that they planned to sign an agreement in the near future. ..."

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Unlike many northern cities (no offense) NYC is certainly worth visiting in December, but what is the point of a bowl game. NYC is not a college market. It just is not.

And Insider, you are exactly correct. This is the source of the sorry and silly excuse that touts of woeful conferences like the Leastleftovers spew out. The broken BcS system set up uneven matchups based on trying to do some kind of "affirmative action" system, as in this case with 7th in a legitimate Major conference plays the 3rd place in the Leastleftovers, creating an nearly even matchup. Because 3rd in the Leastleftovers would lose by 50 to 3rd in a True Major.
SabresRule
3rd in the Leastleftovers would lose by 50 to 3rd in a True Major.

What do you have against the Big East?

Sam, people LIKE collegiate football in the Northeast. What is it going to take for you to realize that?

IIRC, the Big East has produced some fine players- ever heard of that Larry Fitzgerald guy? He came from Pittsburgh.
S
What do you have against the Big East?

It exists.

Seriously, the Leastleftovers is a solid mid-major conference. Right on par with CUSA, Mountain West, WAC, etc. A mid-major. Nothing wrong with that.

But, under the broken BcS cartel, one of two things will happen this year, as every year. The other mid-majors must go undefeated to get a trip to the lowest BcS bowl and a few $$. Otherwise, they will be told to pound sand. But the Leastleftover "champion" will, AUTOMATICALLY, go to a BcS bowl, no matter what. Wrong. Or, worse yet, and this will happen some year, the Leastleftover "champion" will be undefeated, in which case we will be force to sit through a laughable BcS final. Evil.

If the Leastleftovers were replaced in the cartel by the Mountain West, or the cartel was simply declared illegal (which it is) you would not hear a peap out of me about the Leastleftovers.


Sam, people LIKE collegiate football in the Northeast. What is it going to take for you to realize that?

Yes, they are called Nittany Lions.

I like my local minor league team. I know they are not the Yankees. I like my local community theatre. I know it is not Broadway. I like my neighbor's garden and the stuf he gives me. I know it is not the Great Valley of California. Etc.

If you equate what goes on in Piscataway to what goes on in Gainsville, you do not understand college football. It is a fundamentally different level.



IIRC, the Big East has produced some fine players- ever heard of that Larry Fitzgerald guy? He came from Pittsburgh.

So have CUSA, the Mountain West, the WAC, I-AA, Div II, and so on.
Jimbo
It exists.

Seriously, the Leastleftovers is a solid mid-major conference. Right on par with CUSA, Mountain West, WAC, etc. A mid-major. Nothing wrong with that.

But, under the broken BcS cartel, one of two things will happen this year, as every year. The other mid-majors must go undefeated to get a trip to the lowest BcS bowl and a few $$. Otherwise, they will be told to pound sand. But the Leastleftover "champion" will, AUTOMATICALLY, go to a BcS bowl, no matter what. Wrong. Or, worse yet, and this will happen some year, the Leastleftover "champion" will be undefeated, in which case we will be force to sit through a laughable BcS final. Evil.

If the Leastleftovers were replaced in the cartel by the Mountain West, or the cartel was simply declared illegal (which it is) you would not hear a peap out of me about the Leastleftovers.




Yes, they are called Nittany Lions.

I like my local minor league team. I know they are not the Yankees. I like my local community theatre. I know it is not Broadway. I like my neighbor's garden and the stuf he gives me. I know it is not the Great Valley of California. Etc.

If you equate what goes on in Piscataway to what goes on in Gainsville, you do not understand college football. It is a fundamentally different level.





So have CUSA, the Mountain West, the WAC, I-AA, Div II, and so on.

You left out the MAC conference in several places in this post ....

I would consider the MAC a Mid Major
I would also consider the MAC as a conference to get many of your "Unknown" players.
Look at all the QB's that have come out of it in the last 10-15 years not to mention the effect Mr. Cribbs has had as a Non QB/ special teams player. btw, he to was a QB in the MAC.
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What do you have against the Big East?

Sam, people LIKE collegiate football in the Northeast. What is it going to take for you to realize that?

IIRC, the Big East has produced some fine players- ever heard of that Larry Fitzgerald guy? He came from Pittsburgh.

Well, the truth is...Sam is speaking the truth. College football is not and will never be a big time sport in the northeast, outside of certain pockets like Happy Valley. Very odd, since high school football is as much a religion in Pennsylvania as it is in Texas.

People will tune in to big national games, but college football will never take over the psyche of the region like it does elsewhere. Here in the City, in the Fall people are so wrapped in the playoff/World Series aspirations of the Yankees and Mets, and the fortunes of the Giants and Jets, there is little time available to think about college football. They'll watch OSU-USC from 8-11 on a Saturday night, but after that people are calling talk shows about Eli Manning, Rex Ryan, and Joba Chamberlain...not college football.

I was in Pensacola Florida the week before Memorial Day weekend a few years ago, and I drove over to New Orleans as well. Ninety percent of the sports talk on the radio was about college football, even in their 'down time'. It was weird.

Rutgers will always have local support, so will Boston College, Pittsburgh, etc. But even when those teams are good it's not like everyone is talking about them. College basketball is huge in the northeast. College football is not.


Sandra
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Also, for some reason, College Football seems like a more rural thing than an urban experience.

On the rare occasion College Gameday is broadcasting from a bigger city with tall buildings, something just doesn't seem right. Maybe that's my own personal perception of the whole collegiate football experience, but I've always viewed college football as a rural thing.
Will94
I was in Pensacola Florida the week before Memorial Day weekend a few years ago, and I drove over to New Orleans as well. Ninety percent of the sports talk on the radio was about college football, even in their 'down time'. It was weird.

I was in Orange Beach, AL on my honeymoon. It was the first week of June 1995. I bought the Mobile newspaper, and the lead sports story was a preview of the 1995 Iron Bowl. That was just bizarre to me, and I had been living in College Station, TX for five years at that point.
hancox
CFN actually has a good article on the whole "boot the xxxxx from the BCS," though you have to discount the headline (it's a joke)

Scout.com: Cavalcade of Whimsy - Boot The Big East

1. The Big East should be kicked out of the BCS for the Mountain West
Because of the emergence of the Mountain West in recent years, with Utah, BYU, and TCU playing so well on the big stages, and with a sprinkling of wins here and there by the league's lesser teams over the BCS schools, the league deserves the sixth automatic spot in the BCS and the Big East should be booted out. Cincinnati? Connecticut? Louisville? These are basketball schools, and if they have any success on the gridiron there's a little bit of attention, but that's from fans waiting for Midnight Madness to start up. The ratings are mediocre for Big East games, and the conference is permanently crippled after losing Virginia Tech, Miami, and Boston College. It's the Mountain West's time.

You Lie!!! … Utah was fantastic against Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl, and BYU shocked Oklahoma in the season opener this season. TCU is the real deal, and the Mountain West owned the Pac 10 throughout most of last year. If you want to include the Mountain West in the BCS party, then fine. The league already has a permanent spot (for the most part) just by getting its champion to finish in the top 12 of the final BCS rankings, but it should probably get the seventh automatic bid. If you want to kick one league out and keep it at six leagues, then the Big East shouldn't be booted. The Big Ten probably should.

Actually, to be more accurate, the Mountain West shouldn't be included. When you say the Big East should be booted out from the BCS, what are you basing this on? The perception is that the league can't win the big games, and while that's true, it wins a whole bunch of decent ones. If you took all six BCS leagues, along with the Mountain West, over the last three years and the first two weeks of this season, which league is the best in non-conference play against other BCS teams, the Mountain West, and Notre Dame?

No. 1 overall is the SEC, who has won 56% of those non-conference games, but it's top-heavy. Florida, Georgia, and LSU account for most of the wins, but 56% is still impressive. No. 2 is the Pac 10, winning 55% of those non-conference games, but USC is the one to thank for that. The Trojans account for 11 of the wins, and if you take them out of the equation, the Pac 10 has won just 47%.

And then comes the stunner. The only other league to win more than half of its games over the last three years against BCS teams, the Mountain West, and Notre Dame is the Big East coming out on the right side 53% of the time. So where's the Mountain West?

The Big 12 is No. 4 winning 48% of those games, carried by Texas, the Big Ten is No. 5, winning 47% of those games (brought down by Ohio State), and the Mountain West is sixth winning 46% of those games. While that's still relatively impressive, it's not like the league is ripping up the outside world, and the results are disastrous if you take out TCU and Utah from the top-heavy league. Oh yeah, we're missing one conference.

If you're desperate to boot out a league from the BCS, the Big East isn't the one you should focus on; the ACC is. While the conference is getting better, this year aside, it has only won 44% of those non-conference games.

Now cower in shame for yelling, or Nancy Pelosi will shoot you an icy stare.
boomer69
Also, for some reason, College Football seems like a more rural thing than an urban experience.

On the rare occasion College Gameday is broadcasting from a bigger city with tall buildings, something just doesn't seem right. Maybe that's my own personal perception of the whole collegiate football experience, but I've always viewed college football as a rural thing.

You're are correct, sir!!!...Last week was a perfect example!!!...;)
S
Hey, maybe Urban Meyer should do Tim Tebow a favor and bring the Gators to the 'Yankee Stadium Bowl' this season. That way, if Tebow wants to continue his professional career as a QB, he can start getting used to playing 'up north'.

Perhaps Urban can also petition the bowl to be played with three downs, everyone in motion at the snap, and 150 yards of field too...so Tim can get used to that as well. ;)


Sandra
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You left out the MAC conference in several places in this post ....

I appoligize to all my midwestern friends. The MAC certainly is another mid-major which can be mentioned in the same breath as the woefull and undeserving to be in the BcS Leastleftovers. For that matter so is the Sun Belt.

As to the comments about urban and rural and northeast and rest of the country relative to college sports, EXACTLY. College football in a state w/o pro sports, or to the "native" population in a state that has filled up with "outsiders" to the point that it now has pro sports is so totally different from people who watch "fair Harvard" or who give 3 seconds of notice to Rutgers when they actually win a few that it is unbelievable. It is a different level and the broken BcS includes this to try to make a claim to the northeastern market. It is just not right and is a tone deaf move.
ppappas
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
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Nebugeater
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
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Bobby
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....
tanman
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
Cold Irons
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.
Jim5506
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.
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dennispap
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.
Correct. If you enable PTAT, you don't have to set other timers for those programs. You can choose all of the 4 networks or as few as you want. You also can choose all 7 days or other options. However the programs will auto delete after 8 days unless you save that episode or save the whole series.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
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Change​
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4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
K
Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
They're finally live in the app's API, doing a check

PISTONS is not available in Detroit (WMYD/20), it is available in the rest of Michigan including Marquette who also gets the games on their MyNet station WJMN/3, along with the Toledo DMA and the northern portions of the South Bend and Fort Wayne DMAs.

THUNDER is available in OKC and Tulsa, so I wonder if DTV is just going to keep the OTA feeds of KSBI/52 and KQCW/19 and direct viewers to 675 for the rest of the games.
On stream it's in Choice for Oklahoma and Western Arkansas and requires Sports Pack for Nebraska, Kansas and Western Missouri, I'm not sure if it's the same for satellite.
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KAB
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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N5XZS
A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!😎👍
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KAB
A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!😎👍
"Jackson Lamb for Prime Minister! "
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Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
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KAB
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
I think this new season is a little too slow of a burn (as of ep #4, probably due to new show runner. However, I can't wait to find out what's up with Taverner!
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KAB
Well, the season finale went balls to the wall. Non stop action and several twisted twists. Gary Oldman at his best. Very well written and executed. Tavener owes Jackson big time. Only "if" was Jack Lowden's (River) cliffhanger, especially admin-st the buzz that he is the next James Bond in waiting.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
dishstaller
Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
sdfntx
Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
MikeD-C05
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.
T
That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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KAB
922 was a train wreck. The end!
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KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Much better than the critics would want you to believe. Only problem, the last guy was pretty obvious a couple of episodes in.
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R
I have watched three episodes so far and I like it.
T
As do I.
osu1991
Season 2 out now on Prime
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Amazon Sets 'The Lord of the Rings' TV Series In Mega Deal With Multi-Season Commitment

$250 Million just for the rights to make something :eeek


The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.

Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring.
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long_time_Dish
Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?
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Bruce
Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?
I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.
long_time_Dish
I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.
They're taking a lot of this from The Silmarillion, of which I'm not quite a third of the way through yet, and sure, they've invented some new people, places and situations, but it's still (IMHO) a really good prequel to LOTR. Having only just started season 2, I'm still enjoying it quite a bit. I'm really not seeing the fan-fic angle in it. If season 2 proves to be as enjoyable as season 1 was for me, I'd sure like to see a 3rd season.
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long_time_Dish
Up to s2, ep4. Didn't like episode 3 quite as much as the rest, but episode 4 was terrific!
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Foxbat
I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
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Scott Greczkowski
Yup thats what xenforo is written in, php.

But all patched now. :)
harshness
I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
PHP and a heapin' helpin' of JavaScript.

As dated as it is, PHP is eminently adept at projects like a forum. With modules, it is competitive in flexibility and computational efficiency with tools like Node.js or Ruby (where you must choose from many outboard tools).
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harshness
More specifically, these:



A more scholarly story is here:

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navychop
"WARNING Will Robinson!"
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
b4pjoe
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
harshness
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.
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Juan
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Juan
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
dishstaller
.a bag...not much
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
Anony55
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Since it hasn't been connected to a dish in that long, it probably missed the firmware update that they designed to cause the problem.