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Muckrak3r
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I recently got a 73" 1080p TV and realize the artifacts in the compressed 1080i on Dish. It still looks great overall but I would love to see all the HD shows in 1080p.
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1080p is a fairly worthless gimmick invented by a few TV manufacturers to sell big screens. There is very little product available for the average consumer at this point.
Muckrak3r
1080p is a fairly worthless gimmick invented by a few TV manufacturers to sell big screens. There is very little product available for the average consumer at this point.

Well I have a 73" 1080p set, and I sit 9 feet from it for the THX viewing angle of 40 degrees.

I have an Xbox 360 that does nearly every single one of my games in 1080p. I have a PS3 for blu-rays, and those are 1080p too. The only thing I have that is not 1080p is the Dish DVR.

I can tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p on this screen, and at this distance.

I could understand if someone has a 50" TV and sits 14 feet away... It would be impossible to tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p.
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Well I have a 73" 1080p set, and I sit 9 feet from it for the THX viewing angle of 40 degrees.

I have an Xbox 360 that does nearly every single one of my games in 1080p. I have a PS3 for blu-rays, and those are 1080p too. The only thing I have that is not 1080p is the Dish DVR.

I can tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p on this screen, and at this distance.

I could understand if someone has a 50" TV and sits 14 feet away... It would be impossible to tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p.

Sure Blu-Ray is 1080p, but only 24fps. There is no resolution loss viewing it as 1080i or 1080p. If you set the PS3 to 1080i and see a PQ difference then your TV can't de-interlace properly, or it's in your head :)

It is just like many people complaining about Dish PPV in 1080p and some viewers not able to see it because their TV is not compatible and they are only seeing it in 1080i. If your TV does things correctly there is no difference PQ-wise. The only benefit of the 1080p is if your set can display in multiples of 24 so you have no frame judder from 3:2 pulldown.
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Sure Blu-Ray is 1080p, but only 24fps. There is no resolution loss viewing it as 1080i or 1080p.

That's not quite true. 1080i can refer to either 1920*1080i or 1440*1080i, and a lot of TV stations are already chopping down to a 1440-wide frame to allow them the bandwidth for additional 480i feeds (NBC Action Weather, for example).

This is all neither here nor there; NOBODY broadcasts in 1080p.
TheForce
OTA Broadcast TV will never see another paradigm shift in technology that requires a major upgrade in both broadcast and receiving equipment. The reason is the OTA RF Broadcast business model won't survive the future generation's shift to internet or IP broadcasting. Local TV is ad based revenue and unless they can find another income source their business model just won't survive without public funding, i.e. another government spending drain and another cause for tax increase to keep broadcast TV alive.

As a licensed Broadcast engineer I've spent most of my life working with the technology side of TV but the money has always been there through the 20th century business model-- advertising. Today the competition for the ad dollar is just too prolific and TV execs have not been innovative at all in diversification of income. TV broadcast has resisted change ever since I can remember. While the industry successfully moved from NTSC to ATSC the business model has remained the same. Until you all can figure out a new profit center for OTA TV all this discussion of 1080p60 or 1080p24 is nothing but fantasy dreaming.

My personal experience is that when my TV production business went from analog to digital, I could see the writing on the wall so I took my company's content from Local TV broadcast channels to cable channels to now, webcasts. I kept it alive as the ad revenues shifted from one outlet to another, this dictated the change in technology. What I read in this thread is just the opposite. You all are proposing the technology dictate the change. I just don't see that happening since there is no justification for a market for the technology. The reason for this is that content trumps PQ. And quantity of content trumps quality of content ( in the majority of revenue based programming). Finally, price for content, ie. competition, is what kills quality, and delivery.

In other words, make a good story, lots of stories, and deliver it to me the cheapest way will win out. Local OTA TV just is nowhere near competing against IP TV in the next 20 years. If it survives at all, don't expect it to be the bastion of the latest high quality of content and technology.
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mpeg4 is coming to OTA for their mobile tv standard. They could also leave a single 480i mpeg2 stream for the converter box and put everything else in mpeg4 but it wouldn't happen unless mpeg4 becomes mandated like atsc tuners did.

That's not quite true. 1080i can refer to either 1920*1080i or 1440*1080i, and a lot of TV stations are already chopping down to a 1440-wide frame to allow them the bandwidth for additional 480i feeds (NBC Action Weather, for example).

This is all neither here nor there; NOBODY broadcasts in 1080p.

1440x1080i is not part of the ATSC spec, I'd be interested to hear what stations you know to be in this format.
whatchel1
So things will change.

OTA Broadcast TV will never see another paradigm shift in technology that requires a major upgrade in both broadcast and receiving equipment. The reason is the OTA RF Broadcast business model won't survive the future generation's shift to internet or IP broadcasting. Local TV is ad based revenue and unless they can find another income source their business model just won't survive without public funding, i.e. another government spending drain and another cause for tax increase to keep broadcast TV alive.

As a licensed Broadcast engineer I've spent most of my life working with the technology side of TV but the money has always been there through the 20th century business model-- advertising. Today the competition for the ad dollar is just too prolific and TV execs have not been innovative at all in diversification of income. TV broadcast has resisted change ever since I can remember. While the industry successfully moved from NTSC to ATSC the business model has remained the same. Until you all can figure out a new profit center for OTA TV all this discussion of 1080p60 or 1080p24 is nothing but fantasy dreaming.

My personal experience is that when my TV production business went from analog to digital, I could see the writing on the wall so I took my company's content from Local TV broadcast channels to cable channels to now, webcasts. I kept it alive as the ad revenues shifted from one outlet to another, this dictated the change in technology. What I read in this thread is just the opposite. You all are proposing the technology dictate the change. I just don't see that happening since there is no justification for a market for the technology. The reason for this is that content trumps PQ. And quantity of content trumps quality of content ( in the majority of revenue based programming). Finally, price for content, ie. competition, is what kills quality, and delivery.

In other words, make a good story, lots of stories, and deliver it to me the cheapest way will win out. Local OTA TV just is nowhere near competing against IP TV in the next 20 years. If it survives at all, don't expect it to be the bastion of the latest high quality of content and technology.

I a broadcast engineer as well I'm a member of the Society Of Broadcast Engineers. Things in the digital age are changing at a much faster pace than they did in the analog days. It is my understanding that in the next couple of years I'm am being told that we will be migrationg from MPEG 2 to MPEG 4. Those that have the new boxes & TV sets will have to replace the STB or the inboard tuner of the HDTV with a new STB that is MPEG 4. The reason for this is MPEG 4 is a better format that will allow be compression of the signal and take less bandwidth than the MPEG2. So you may want to prepare for the next change.
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mpeg4 is coming to OTA for their mobile tv standard. They could also leave a single 480i mpeg2 stream for the converter box and put everything else in mpeg4 but it wouldn't happen unless mpeg4 becomes mandated like atsc tuners did.

The old Racer Maxim used to be, if it's not forbidden, it's allowed. I wouldn't put it past the FCC to allow MPEG4 as an ad hoc standard as long as the 480i/MP2 stream is kept.

1440x1080i is not part of the ATSC spec, I'd be interested to hear what stations you know to be in this format.

Not a part of the standard, no, but since the content (below) is limited at this level, it was part of the leverage that D* and E*used to petition (and win) the FCC to downres content for retransmission. I can't point to specific cases, but it appears to be an open secret. It's mentioned on the 1080i Wikipedia entry, and nobody's disproven it, so I have to assume it to be true. Not that I believe everything I read on Wikipedia...

Is the pixel count really a part of the spec? Couldn't one theoretically encapsulate a 480*640 square-pixel stream inside a 1080i signal without upscaling, as long as the aspect ratio is flagged in the transport? I'm not an engineer, so I don't know from experience, nor am I a member of a consortium that distributes the spec books.

There is one more issue that was mentioned in this thread but the truth was never discussed. It has to do with the reality of 1920 H pixels vs. 1440 or less.
Point is that the majority of programs were generated with video formats, or films were telecined and distributed in formats that were no higher than a resolution of 1440 as restricted by the tape media limits of their day. HDCAM, the most widely used field production system was for many years limited to 1440 H pixels on the tape.
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But that still leave a whole lot more content in circulation at the lower resolution than most of you all care to acknowledge. Nothing in the distribution end of TV will add back the resolution that just was not recorded to begin with. However what you do get when all limits in distribution are removed is a transmission of video and electronic noise that shows up as grainy detail texture to what should be clean original content. AKA an artifact!
mike123abc
I a broadcast engineer as well I'm a member of the Society Of Broadcast Engineers. Things in the digital age are changing at a much faster pace than they did in the analog days. It is my understanding that in the next couple of years I'm am being told that we will be migrationg from MPEG 2 to MPEG 4. Those that have the new boxes & TV sets will have to replace the STB or the inboard tuner of the HDTV with a new STB that is MPEG 4. The reason for this is MPEG 4 is a better format that will allow be compression of the signal and take less bandwidth than the MPEG2. So you may want to prepare for the next change.

I do not see the main channel changing from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 for at least 10-20 years. But, they could of course start stepping down the resolution of the main channel to make room for MPEG-4 subchannels. After all the trouble to get millions of converter boxes in place, I do not think that the FCC would go along with making them obsolete in the next few years. If a new standard was inacted I could see the FCC allowing the switchover after enough years have gone by to allow all the old MPEG-2 ones to break and be replaced by MPEG-4 capable ones.

I would love to see MPEG-4 available. It would be nice to easily get 2-3 HD pictures on a channel.
whatchel1
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I do not see the main channel changing from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 for at least 10-20 years. But, they could of course start stepping down the resolution of the main channel to make room for MPEG-4 subchannels. After all the trouble to get millions of converter boxes in place, I do not think that the FCC would go along with making them obsolete in the next few years. If a new standard was inacted I could see the FCC allowing the switchover after enough years have gone by to allow all the old MPEG-2 ones to break and be replaced by MPEG-4 capable ones.

I would love to see MPEG-4 available. It would be nice to easily get 2-3 HD pictures on a channel.

Since all they have to do is keep the 480i MPEG2 in place for the STB's then I see no reason why it won't be allowed to go MPEG4 for the HD siganls. The switch to digital is all that the new ATSC boxes are for. The built in tuners on the new HD sets is only a small part of what the new HD sets do since all have multiple inputs on them it is possible to have a new outbord decoder for MPEG4. Since some have ports for S/W updates it may be possible for those to be upgraded to MPEG4. So i see little reason why the industry will not be allowed to move much faster to MPEG4 than to digital.
navychop
"Better" does not necessarily mean "better enough" to get such a major change adopted. Pols may see this as more pain, so soon after the last bit of (not) fun.

Of course, we're really talking about a small proportion of the population that would be affected. It is my understanding that the number of people completely reliant on OTA is well below that of a year ago. Many just went with cable rather than buy a converter or new TV.

Hmmm. If you're right (about MPEG-4 coming soon - not "soon" ;)) -and I hope you are, I'm just doubtful- then that would explain the ViP722K, wouldn't it? Just sell the boys a new MPEG-4 OTA module.

Such a move could actually be good for the OTA business model, even with yet more investment required. With say, 12-15 SD channels going out from the station, the broadcasters could drop the air time rates they charge. Then small interest groups could go out over the air. Local metro woodworkers, anyone? With a weekly show on duck decoy carving? The Router Workshop returns? Basket weaving using organic materials? Shoe making at home? The Glass Blowers tutorial? Etc etc. Multicasting destroys PQ & AQ, but allows for niche programming.

Maybe I'm coming around to your way of thinking. Perhaps the pols will decide this last go 'round wasn't so bad after all, and pretty much ignore the process. Possible.
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With say, 12-15 SD channels going out from the station, the broadcasters could drop the air time rates they charge. Then small interest groups could go out over the air. Local metro woodworkers, anyone? With a weekly show on duck decoy carving? The Router Workshop returns? Basket weaving using organic materials? Shoe making at home? The Glass Blowers tutorial? Etc etc. Multicasting destroys PQ & AQ, but allows for niche programming.
By the bimap math (not the MPEG I/P/B frame math), a full 1080i/60 frame is over 62Mpix/sec. A 480i/60 frame is way less than 10Mpix/sec. An "HDLite" 1440*1080i/60 frame is less than 47Mpix/sec. If one assumes that 1920*1080(i)*60 is the best you can do, and requires 19Mbit/sec of bandwidth, and you cut that frame down to 75% of it's intended (bitmap) width, you could fit way more than one 480i stream for free. Hell, you could fit a full 1080p/24 and a 480i side by side and still use less bandwidth than a single 1920*1080i*60 frame, and that's without changing any compression codecs.

If every HD channel in a market is allocated a full 1080i channel, and isn't already multicasting, it's totally practical (though expensive) to add a 1080p/MP4 stream to a 480i/MP2 stream and carry on, business as usual. In Kansas City, we only have a few high-def multicasters (PBS-19, CW-29, and NBC-41), but every major network is represented (Univision and Daystar are still analog-LP, though). PBS isn't going to do anything, and CW can't afford it, but it would be in NBC's best interest to broadcast whatever they can in 1080p.

It's completely possible, but I'm not holding my breath, nor do I want to pay for it out of pocket.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
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If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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dfergie
Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
dishstaller
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
jayn_j
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
dishstaller
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
navychop
Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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