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Expanded RSNs vs. Purchasing Sports Subscriptions

If you purchase the sports pack or upgrade to premier which grants you an expanded RSN, do you still need to purchase the Sports subscription (NHL Center ICE, MLB Extra Innings, NBA Pass, etc) to watch games on that expanded RSN?
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For 99 people out of 100, yes. All live NHL, NBA, pre-season NFL, WNBA, MLS, and some live college footbal and basketball (those game included in Full Court or Game Plan), and all in-season live and tape MLB are blacked out on distant RSNs. The Sports Pack will bring you some extra college sports and reruns of the above mentioned games, pre- and post game shows and such ONLY. It will not bring you extra live pro sports.

The only exception has to do with rural people in areas claimed by multiple teams. For example, I get the Ohio RSNs (Reds, Blue Jackets, Indians) in the basic package, but the Sports Pack gets me the Pittsburgh RSN as well, with the Pirates and Penguins. This situation only applies to a very few people.
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Expanded RSNs vs Pro Subscriptions

That is the dilemma i cant figure out. I live in cleveland (44124) and i cant watch Pittsburgh hockey games on NHL network (i even purchase Center Ice) because DirecTv says i am blacked out because FSN pittsburgh is my Expanded RSN and the game is available on it but i dont subscribe to the SportsPak.

So if i drop Center Ice and upgrade to sportspak (thus acquiring FSn Pittsburgh) will I be able to watch the hockey games?

I dont see how i have to purchase both Center Ice and Sportspak? it happens for every NHL network game as FSN pittsburgh also carries the game but Center Ice does not (which is still 18 games this year).

I am in a quandry... without versus on directv as well I will lose out on about 35 pittsburgh games this year which makes Center Ice really not worth it.
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Based on your zipcode DirecTV Choice package or above you get FSN Ohio on ch. 660 for Cleveland Cavaliers and Columbus Blue Jackets games. With Choice Xtra you also get Sports Time Ohio on ch. 662 for Cleveland Indians games. If you have the Premier package or the Sports Pack you would also get FSN Pittsburgh on ch. 659 for Pittsburgh Penguins games.

If you have Center Ice check every Center Ice channel the Penguins are playing on see if you can get the game there. I've had to do that sometimes when my local MLB team is not playing on their usual RSN channel.
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thanks, but my question is: If i DONT have Center Ice, and I just purchase the sports pak which grants me FSN pittsburgh, will i get to watch the Penguin games on FSn pittsburgh or will they be "not purchased" since i wont have Center Ice.

The issue it that when the NHL network broadcasts NHL game, the RSNs still broadcast the games as well. In fact, the NHL Network usually just takes one of the feeds and puts in on their channel.

Understand this is a quirk in the system when NHL Network debuted last year. Unlike NBC or versus, local RSNs can still broadcast their games if the game is selected for an NHL Network broadcast, with NBC and Versus, they are not allowed. So Center Ice does not carry the game because it thinks NHL network is carrying its own broadcast and nobody else is carrying the game. However, since an expanded RSN in my zip code (44124) which is FSN PGH is still airing the game, for whatever reason, DirecTv blacks out my game on NHL network because it says i should upgrade to Sportspak to watch the game on FSN pittsburgh.

To me this is just circular logic: If i purchase the sports pack, i cannot watch Penguin games on FSN Pgh because i have to purchase NHL Center ICE, which grants me viewing rights to NHL Network. however, i cant watch Penguin games on NHL Network because i have to purchase the sports pak to watch the games on FSN PGH.

Am i crazy or does this make sense to anybody.:mad:
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jeditig said:
thanks, but my question is: If i DONT have Center Ice, and I just purchase the sports pak which grants me FSN pittsburgh, will i get to watch the Penguin games on FSn pittsburgh or will they be "not purchased" since i wont have Center Ice.
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The Sports Pack will bring you any Penguins content on FSN-P.
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TVs are really getting big these days

Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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Q-LED and Mini LED panels have improved the picture quality and the tv's are so thin and nearly without bezels now. I've thought about replacing the 75in 4k DV/HDR LED Sony in my living room with a newer 86in. That's as big as I can go without construction changes. I watch the 75in 4k DV/HDR Q-LED in my bedroom and the difference between the two is very noticeable. There's nothing wrong with the living room tv though and I don't now that I actually watch enough anymore to really justify it. I could move it out to the patio but the 65in Q-LED out there looks really good and I'd have to change the mount to accomdate a larger tv out there.
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I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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55" is plenty big.
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dishstaller
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TRG said:
55" is plenty big.
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And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Has anyone been to Wales?

I've pretty much done most things in Ireland and I'm thinking about the other side of the Irish sea. I'm thinking about traveling to Wales this summer. My second choice would be Scotland. I don't want anything to do with London except maybe landing in Heathrow and then escaping quickly.

Any tips or experiences to share?
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - David Cook
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Is NVIDIA’s CEO Being Targeted in an Alleged Spy Plot? #shorts

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MorCowbell
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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I hear complaints from customers each and every day. I chose not to install OTAs with a doggle for a reason.

BTW, I like your user name


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MorCowbell said:
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
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So, you want the ability to, for example, scan while your antenna is pointed to the east and save those channels to your list. Then, you want to scan again with the antenna pointed to the west, and add some of those channels to the list also while retaining the original channels you added from the east?

How would that work? If you move the antenna and some of your channels are no longer are accessible, there's no point in having them on the list. Unless, you want to re-point the antenna each time you switched from an east channel to a west channel and vice versa.

I suppose you could have one of those remote controlled antenna mast like we had back in the 60's. In that case, I can see your point. I think DISH has just designed the system to fit what the vast majority of users actually have. I'm guessing your situation is a pretty narrow use case scenario. I'm just really happy to be able to have my locals without having to pay the $17 month for them.

I just wish DISH would fix the remote control issue that the last few software downloads screwed up. I use the 54 remote and my Hopper is jumping around from off to on, from live to recording.......................like a Kangaroo.
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To Dishstaller, I appreciate your compliment. That was an epic SNL skit !!

To RVvaquero, I appreciate your coments but everything you mention has been considered:

Firstly, I use OTA very rarely - mainly for sporting events.
Secondly, I'm well aware that, since certain channels may scan from one directon while others from another directions, and remembering the difference, for certain stations I will point the antenna in a suitable direction. Some stations come in for almost any direction. In my original list (which has now been discarded), I had about 18 OTA stations and all of them were scanned from the same antenna direction. Even so, the Dish receiver was very particular about ABC (local KOAT 007-01). In the new geographic setting, it gets KOAT easier. Several months ago, due to a contract dispute, CBS (formerly local KRQE on 013-01) was dropped; it hooked up with KOAT as KOATCB (007-04) which is the one station I really needed. But I had to rescan to get it ...

All of ths points to the flaw in Dish's OTA software that prevents scanned stations from simply being appended to a master saved list. The user should be left to manage antenna pointing per OTA station since in many areas (like mine), they don't all come in from the same direction.
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MorCowbell said:
To Dishstaller, I appreciate your compliment. That was an epic SNL skit !!

To RVvaquero, I appreciate your coments but everything you mention has been considered:

Firstly, I use OTA very rarely - mainly for sporting events.
Secondly, I'm well aware that, since certain channels may scan from one directon while others from another directions, and remembering the difference, for certain stations I will point the antenna in a suitable direction. Some stations come in for almost any direction. In my original list (which has now been discarded), I had about 18 OTA stations and all of them were scanned from the same antenna direction. Even so, the Dish receiver was very particular about ABC (local KOAT 007-01). In the new geographic setting, it gets KOAT easier. Several months ago, due to a contract dispute, CBS (formerly local KRQE on 013-01) was dropped; it hooked up with KOAT as KOATCB (007-04) which is the one station I really needed. But I had to rescan to get it ...

All of ths points to the flaw in Dish's OTA software that prevents scanned stations from simply being appended to a master saved list. The user should be left to manage antenna pointing per OTA station since in many areas (like mine), they don't all come in from the same direction.
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As rvvaquero mentioned, you are in a very small population who actually need to move their antenna to receive various TV channels. There are a few reasons why it is not advantageous for Dish to do what you are asking for. First and primary, there are anomalies in the software that can cause issues when you have scanned channels in the mix that have little or no signal. You get error pop ups and cannot watch any channel, OTA or satellite. I have seen these even with my antenna pointed to one direction. Second, you are asking Dish to adapt their software to your needs while the very vast majority don't need that. This is an expense that everyone is going to have to pay for while few gain any advantage.

Have you thought about adding a second antenna so that you are pointing at both directions to fulfill your needs. There are ways to do this and it would fulfill your individual need.

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Televes makes an antenna signal combiner that will support two different antennas pointing towards two different locations, and has filters to drop the signals from the channels that interfere with the 2nd antenna channels. This produces a signal that would contain all your receivable channels in one feed. It would probably cost less than a single antenna on a rotor controlled by a smart box that would relocate the antenna mast towards the TV station you wanted to tune in, plus it's instantaneous, without waiting for the antenna to slew towards its target.

Why Choose the Televes SmartKom?

SmartKom combines filtering, combining, and amplification in one outdoor preamplifier. Its three inputs and 32 programmable digital filters allow installers to select, combine, and level channels from different antenna sources, while the included ASuite app supports both automatic and advanced Bluetooth programming.

Key Benefits

  • Three VHF/UHF antenna inputs
  • 32 programmable digital channel filters
  • Automatic channel scan, filtering, and level balancing
  • Advanced per-channel programming through the ASuite app
  • Bluetooth programming through the included power supply interface
  • Automatic gain control on each filter
  • LTE/5G out-of-band filtering
  • Compatible with HDTV, UHD 4K, and supported ATSC 3.0 signals
  • Configuration retained after power loss
  • 12V, 750mA power supply included
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Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Mixed one egg, one tablespoon cottage cheese with a small fine grated potato, salt and pepper, made 3 waffles in the small waffle iron... Bacon, sausage and milk. (next time will add grated cheese to mix)
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Breakfast Sandwich. Over hard eggs, fried deli ham and a thick slice of sharp cheddar cheese on sourdough toast. Coffee.
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Bagel and cream cheese. Coffee.
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