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Well I am back with Dish and I am running Dish's 625 which you can pause for up to 2 hours and has 2- 120 minute live buffers.The 625 to me for want I use it for is just an awesome DVR.
When I checked into the specifications of the ViPs I noticed that you can only pause for up to 1 hour and they only have 2-60 minute live buffers?,So my question is why? Why mess up something that they have perfected(In my mind and use) on their 625?.They( the HDDVRs) have larger hard drives so I would not think that would be an issue.The design of the ViPs have left me confused as I feel they should also be able to pause for up to 2 hours and should also have 2- 120 minute live buffers.So that design needless to say has me confused?.Thoughts?.
When I checked into the specifications of the ViPs I noticed that you can only pause for up to 1 hour and they only have 2-60 minute live buffers?,So my question is why? Why mess up something that they have perfected(In my mind and use) on their 625?.They( the HDDVRs) have larger hard drives so I would not think that would be an issue.The design of the ViPs have left me confused as I feel they should also be able to pause for up to 2 hours and should also have 2- 120 minute live buffers.So that design needless to say has me confused?.Thoughts?.
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J
Well I will take Mondays for example,we like Antiques Roadshows and Heroes that both come on at 8PM PST so I live buffer both channels PBS&NBC.Watch Roadshows first because of no commercials then after Roadshows is over switch tuner to CBS because we like the Big Bang Theory that comes on at 9:30 PM PST .Then go to the tuner that has NBC rewind live buffer start watching Heroes while FFWing through commercials.After getting through watching Heroes go to the CBS tuner rewind live buffer then watch Big Bang Theory while of course FFWing through commercials.This can be achieved because I have 2-120 minute live buffers on the 625.I reserve my recording space for movies I like to record.
But I also can see if I know I won't be home to record such programs see to me having the longer live buffers gives me(the operator) another option than just to record a program(s).Having live buffers is like adding space to your hard drive because you don't have to record every program.
P.S. I also could not do this with just 2-60 minute live buffers.
Well I will take Mondays for example,we like Antiques Roadshows and Heroes that both come on at 8PM PST so I live buffer both channels PBS&NBC.Watch Roadshows first because of no commercials then after Roadshows is over switch tuner to CBS because we like the Big Bang Theory that comes on at 9:30 PM PST .Then go to the tuner that has NBC rewind live buffer start watching Heroes while FFWing through commercials.After getting through watching Heroes go to the CBS tuner rewind live buffer then watch Big Bang Theory while of course FFWing through commercials.This can be achieved because I have 2-120 minute live buffers on the 625.I reserve my recording space for movies I like to record.
But I also can see if I know I won't be home to record such programs see to me having the longer live buffers gives me(the operator) another option than just to record a program(s).Having live buffers is like adding space to your hard drive because you don't have to record every program.
P.S. I also could not do this with just 2-60 minute live buffers.
C
Not to belabor the point, but is your hard drive so full that you can't just record them? It seems to me that you are dramatically missing the point of having a DVR, or of the DVRs capabilities. It would be like waking up at 5:00 a.m. every day to set the alarm to go off at 6:00.
You can set the 625 so that it only has the latest episode in the hard drive. My wife and I like to watch the NBC news. It is set to record every day, and dump yesterday's episode. That way, we only have the one latest episode of the news at any one time. It is a "set it and forget it" type deal.
The purpose of live buffers is not to act as a second hard drive, the point of live buffers is to stop what you are doing to get a snack or go to the bathroom (or swat flies, as we were invaded yesterday
). Something else to consider, the live buffers live somewhere, and that somewhere is on the hard drive of the machine. Add 2 hours of HD live buffer, and you necessarily reduce the number of hours that the machine can record on the hard drive, and AFAIK, the live buffers take up more space than recorded programs, it is not 1:1.
Well I will take Mondays for example,we like Antiques Roadshows and Heroes that both come on at 8PM PST so I live buffer both channels PBS&NBC.Watch Roadshows first because of no commercials then after Roadshows is over switch tuner to CBS because we like the Big Bang Theory that comes on at 9:30 PM PST .Then go to the tuner that has NBC rewind live buffer start watching Heroes while FFWing through commercials.After getting through watching Heroes go to the CBS tuner rewind live buffer then watch Big Bang Theory while of course FFWing through commercials.This can be achieved because I have 2-120 minute live buffers on the 625.I reserve my recording space for movies I like to record.
But I also can see if I know I won't be home to record such programs see to me having the longer live buffers gives me(the operator) another option than just to record a program(s).Having live buffers is like adding space to your hard drive because you don't have to record every program.
P.S. I also could not do this with just 2-60 minute live buffers.
Not to belabor the point, but is your hard drive so full that you can't just record them? It seems to me that you are dramatically missing the point of having a DVR, or of the DVRs capabilities. It would be like waking up at 5:00 a.m. every day to set the alarm to go off at 6:00.
You can set the 625 so that it only has the latest episode in the hard drive. My wife and I like to watch the NBC news. It is set to record every day, and dump yesterday's episode. That way, we only have the one latest episode of the news at any one time. It is a "set it and forget it" type deal.
The purpose of live buffers is not to act as a second hard drive, the point of live buffers is to stop what you are doing to get a snack or go to the bathroom (or swat flies, as we were invaded yesterday
). Something else to consider, the live buffers live somewhere, and that somewhere is on the hard drive of the machine. Add 2 hours of HD live buffer, and you necessarily reduce the number of hours that the machine can record on the hard drive, and AFAIK, the live buffers take up more space than recorded programs, it is not 1:1.
J
With all due respect I believe that to just record only is losing sight of what a DVR's capabilities can be unless that swap button on the remote control is there for looks.
And yes I record just don't like to record stuff with commercials kinda of a pet peeve of mine.
Don't know how much space dual live buffers take but I know MPEG4 dual live buffers would be less space than MPEG2 dual live buffers like my 625 has.
Just think if you had to swat flies and you have a ViP DVR at 1:01 of a paused program you would need to find something else to watch cause your live buffer is gone!.
Not to belabor the point, but is your hard drive so full that you can't just record them? It seems to me that you are dramatically missing the point of having a DVR, or of the DVRs capabilities. It would be like waking up at 5:00 a.m. every day to set the alarm to go off at 6:00.
You can set the 625 so that it only has the latest episode in the hard drive. My wife and I like to watch the NBC news. It is set to record every day, and dump yesterday's episode. That way, we only have the one latest episode of the news at any one time. It is a "set it and forget it" type deal.
The purpose of live buffers is not to act as a second hard drive, the point of live buffers is to stop what you are doing to get a snack or go to the bathroom (or swat flies, as we were invaded yesterday
With all due respect I believe that to just record only is losing sight of what a DVR's capabilities can be unless that swap button on the remote control is there for looks.
And yes I record just don't like to record stuff with commercials kinda of a pet peeve of mine.
Don't know how much space dual live buffers take but I know MPEG4 dual live buffers would be less space than MPEG2 dual live buffers like my 625 has.
Just think if you had to swat flies and you have a ViP DVR at 1:01 of a paused program you would need to find something else to watch cause your live buffer is gone!.
J
Yes that's true.I guess I will never know why Dish changed their live buffers from
2 hours on the 625 to 1 hour on the ViPs?when the 2 hour seems so perfect for what I use them for.
And it seems alot of the users are set and satisfied to"record only" if it's over 1 hour.
Is that what Dish's SD programming is 544x480i?.I thought it looks a heck of alot better than DirecTV's SD programming.
Yes that's true.I guess I will never know why Dish changed their live buffers from
2 hours on the 625 to 1 hour on the ViPs?when the 2 hour seems so perfect for what I use them for.
And it seems alot of the users are set and satisfied to"record only" if it's over 1 hour.
Is that what Dish's SD programming is 544x480i?.I thought it looks a heck of alot better than DirecTV's SD programming.
Less recording time on HDD
It has been explained that to have 2 hr buffers would give us less recording time. So what's not to understand?
Yes that's true.I guess I will never know why Dish changed their live buffers from
2 hours on the 625 to 1 hour on the ViPs?when the 2 hour seems so perfect for what I use them for.
And it seems alot of the users are set and satisfied to"record only" if it's over 1 hour.
Is that what Dish's SD programming is 544x480i?.I thought it looks a heck of alot better than DirecTV's SD programming.
It has been explained that to have 2 hr buffers would give us less recording time. So what's not to understand?
Yes. I've pulled broacasts directly off the internal disk on my 625, and I can attest to that fact. But I've never had DirectTV, so what I'm about to say is hearsay. I think their SD broadcasts are 480X480.Is that what Dish's SD programming is 544x480i?.I thought it looks a heck of alot better than DirecTV's SD programming.
J
It's hard to understand when you have such a great design as I believe the 625 is, Dish changed the features and made their product less competitive compared to their competitors(mainly DirecTV).Here's my own opinion how I rate features on the ViPs:
1.You can record what? 3 or 4 programs at once?.Rating: Excellent.
2.Dish's ability to be able to run 1 cable into the home and support 2 TVs,that's how they did my 625 setup?(because the switch is in the LNB).Rating: Excellent.
3. To be able to choose Single or Dual Mode.In Single Mode you can swap tuners,have PIP/SplitScreen(see what's on which tuner).
In Dual Mode provide true MRV(with RG6 coax) to the second TV(be able to view recordings or select programs to watch from the channel guide) using the second tuner.
Rating: Excellent.
4. Have the ability to only pause for 1 hour and have 2-60 minute live buffers(or maybe more in OTA?).
Rating: Poor(should have at least 2 -90 minute buffers(no timeout feature),(2-120 minute buffers would be the best).
And I know there are ethernet features(which can put more icing on the cake,or problems).
And that is how I see things and I am sure people will chastise my opinions but these items are how I see the best and the worse so far from Dishnetwork.So.........Flame on!?.
It has been explained that to have 2 hr buffers would give us less recording time. So what's not to understand?
It's hard to understand when you have such a great design as I believe the 625 is, Dish changed the features and made their product less competitive compared to their competitors(mainly DirecTV).Here's my own opinion how I rate features on the ViPs:
1.You can record what? 3 or 4 programs at once?.Rating: Excellent.
2.Dish's ability to be able to run 1 cable into the home and support 2 TVs,that's how they did my 625 setup?(because the switch is in the LNB).Rating: Excellent.
3. To be able to choose Single or Dual Mode.In Single Mode you can swap tuners,have PIP/SplitScreen(see what's on which tuner).
In Dual Mode provide true MRV(with RG6 coax) to the second TV(be able to view recordings or select programs to watch from the channel guide) using the second tuner.
Rating: Excellent.
4. Have the ability to only pause for 1 hour and have 2-60 minute live buffers(or maybe more in OTA?).
Rating: Poor(should have at least 2 -90 minute buffers(no timeout feature),(2-120 minute buffers would be the best).
And I know there are ethernet features(which can put more icing on the cake,or problems).
And that is how I see things and I am sure people will chastise my opinions but these items are how I see the best and the worse so far from Dishnetwork.So.........Flame on!?.
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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