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I posted this in the Pub this past week and just realized that it should probably should be here:
I know that I enjoy reading other people's experiences and comparisons of different services, so I thought I'd share mine. If you don't want to read then move on. I currently have Dish with a 722k, a 722, a 622, a 211k and a 322.
AT&T just recently installed all the outside equipment to provide U-Verse in my area. After doing some checking I found out that for about $13 more a month than what I was paying for my 6 Mb DSL connection I could get the 18 Mb internet through U-Verse. I called AT&T and the agent asked if I wanted phone or TV service and I explained that I didn't want a home phone and that I was perfectly happy with Dish. She explained that with U-Verse there was no contract and I should at least try their TV service as there was a 30 day money back guarantee and that if I tried the TV too they would waive the $150 install fee. I said what the heck and had her add TV service as well. I scheduled an install for Sunday 11/8 between 1 and 3.
The install
The "outside guy" as he called himself called me at 1:05 and let me know that he was going to be disconnecting my DSL so that he could hook up the outside part of my new U-Verse service and that the installer would be calling me soon when he was on the way. I said great and he made the disconnect.
I still hadn't heard from "the inside guy" at 4:20 so I called the AT&T customer service number and spoke with a representative. She called the dispatch center and informed me that I was the next one to be picked up and that the installer would be calling very soon. I said great, and hung up.
Long story short, no one ever showed up. This was obviously very BAD. I called ATT on Monday as they close their customer service at 5:00 on Sunday and I could not reach anyone. After talked to about 5 different departments they rescheduled me for the following Thursday and gave me a $65 credit for my first month. Better but still pissed about the no show.
Move ahead to Thursday... The installer showed up and was a very very nice man. He came in got me hooked up and even gave me (that's right gave me not sold me) a 10 port internet switch so that we wouldn't have to chain my old switches together to incorporate all of the different things I have connected to the internet in my den. He showed me how to use the system and was out of here. I was very impressed with his professionalism and knowledge of the system. Very very Good!
The service
I've now had U-Verse service for over 3 weeks. So here are my pros and cons as compared to Dish. Remember this is just my
Pros:
All equipment was provided at install for free
No contract to sign at all
I like the channel numbering system. All HD channels are the same channel number as the regular channel with a 1 in front of it.
The SD picture quality is exceptional. Much much better than Dish's SD.
ESPNU and my local CW are available in HD
Cons:
The receiver overall is very sluggish as compared to the Dish Receivers
The electronic program guide is terrible. You can only see 1.5 hrs into the future, and there is no ability to setup personalized guides.
There is no DD 5.1 audio over HDMI - you would have to also connect an optical cable to get 5.1 audio.
You can only get 2 HD streams into the house and 2 additional SD streams at the same time. This is a big drop down as opposed to the 4 I can record on the 722k (and not even mentioning all the streams I can get when I add up all my receivers).
The skip forward (30 seconds) and skip back (7 seconds) is terrible. It is some hybrid version of a skip and a fast forward. It is very hard to describe, but I found it terrible to use.
There is no way to tell how full the hard drive on the DVR is, so I have no idea when things are going to be deleted.
The only free VOD events are crappy events that I can't imagine anyone wanting to watch and no movies at all.
The HD picture quality is noticeably worse than Dish.
Conclusion
So after all of that I cancelled the TV part of the service today. It is not close to what Dish has for my needs. However, the internet is great. My 18 Mb connection consistently registers at 17.5 Mb on speedtest.net. I'm very please that they let me try their service and if they can improve it going forward I would give it another shot.
I know that I enjoy reading other people's experiences and comparisons of different services, so I thought I'd share mine. If you don't want to read then move on. I currently have Dish with a 722k, a 722, a 622, a 211k and a 322.
AT&T just recently installed all the outside equipment to provide U-Verse in my area. After doing some checking I found out that for about $13 more a month than what I was paying for my 6 Mb DSL connection I could get the 18 Mb internet through U-Verse. I called AT&T and the agent asked if I wanted phone or TV service and I explained that I didn't want a home phone and that I was perfectly happy with Dish. She explained that with U-Verse there was no contract and I should at least try their TV service as there was a 30 day money back guarantee and that if I tried the TV too they would waive the $150 install fee. I said what the heck and had her add TV service as well. I scheduled an install for Sunday 11/8 between 1 and 3.
The install
The "outside guy" as he called himself called me at 1:05 and let me know that he was going to be disconnecting my DSL so that he could hook up the outside part of my new U-Verse service and that the installer would be calling me soon when he was on the way. I said great and he made the disconnect.
I still hadn't heard from "the inside guy" at 4:20 so I called the AT&T customer service number and spoke with a representative. She called the dispatch center and informed me that I was the next one to be picked up and that the installer would be calling very soon. I said great, and hung up.
Long story short, no one ever showed up. This was obviously very BAD. I called ATT on Monday as they close their customer service at 5:00 on Sunday and I could not reach anyone. After talked to about 5 different departments they rescheduled me for the following Thursday and gave me a $65 credit for my first month. Better but still pissed about the no show.
Move ahead to Thursday... The installer showed up and was a very very nice man. He came in got me hooked up and even gave me (that's right gave me not sold me) a 10 port internet switch so that we wouldn't have to chain my old switches together to incorporate all of the different things I have connected to the internet in my den. He showed me how to use the system and was out of here. I was very impressed with his professionalism and knowledge of the system. Very very Good!
The service
I've now had U-Verse service for over 3 weeks. So here are my pros and cons as compared to Dish. Remember this is just my
Pros:
All equipment was provided at install for free
No contract to sign at all
I like the channel numbering system. All HD channels are the same channel number as the regular channel with a 1 in front of it.
The SD picture quality is exceptional. Much much better than Dish's SD.
ESPNU and my local CW are available in HD
Cons:
The receiver overall is very sluggish as compared to the Dish Receivers
The electronic program guide is terrible. You can only see 1.5 hrs into the future, and there is no ability to setup personalized guides.
There is no DD 5.1 audio over HDMI - you would have to also connect an optical cable to get 5.1 audio.
You can only get 2 HD streams into the house and 2 additional SD streams at the same time. This is a big drop down as opposed to the 4 I can record on the 722k (and not even mentioning all the streams I can get when I add up all my receivers).
The skip forward (30 seconds) and skip back (7 seconds) is terrible. It is some hybrid version of a skip and a fast forward. It is very hard to describe, but I found it terrible to use.
There is no way to tell how full the hard drive on the DVR is, so I have no idea when things are going to be deleted.
The only free VOD events are crappy events that I can't imagine anyone wanting to watch and no movies at all.
The HD picture quality is noticeably worse than Dish.
Conclusion
So after all of that I cancelled the TV part of the service today. It is not close to what Dish has for my needs. However, the internet is great. My 18 Mb connection consistently registers at 17.5 Mb on speedtest.net. I'm very please that they let me try their service and if they can improve it going forward I would give it another shot.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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