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hey Guys

i got Dish net hookup @ my house and i got the NHL Center Ice package too

i notice that there is not much HD on the NHL Center Ice on Dish compare to Directv

My cousin has Directv @ his house and gets many more Hockey Games in HD
and NBA is like that too on some nights!

is there any reason to why this happening ?
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i notice that there is not much HD on the NHL Center Ice on Dish compare to Directv
As Iceberg mentioned there is going to be a bit of a difference because Dish uses HD for their regional sports networks on a gametime only basis, and due to capacity issues sometimes games get bumped from being broadcast in HD.

That said, there is still a lot of hockey being broadcast in standard definition at the source. The DirecTV guide can look better in some cases because they will show SD games on their HD channels because their RSNs are full-time. In some cases DirecTV will show games that Dish has to bump to SD due to capacity issues.

Neither Dish nor DirecTV will air in HD:
- Games on MSG/MSG+ due to a dispute between the NHL and the owners of CableVision who also own the NY Rangers.
- Most games played in Canada - there is limited HD production truck capability in the states, and it gets worse crossing the northern border. Outside of Hockey Night in Canada carried on the NHL Network, 99% of Canadian games are in SD for US viewers.

You can find the same complaints over lack of HD for Center Ice over in the DirecTV forum:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/191522-no-hd-center-ice-games-working.html
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv...oticed-less-hd-broadcasts-year-than-last.html
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/190459-nhl-center-ice-hd-canada-directv.html

Also, last season another user on this forum took the time to put together a spreadsheet to compare Dish vs Direct for number of HD games:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/150009-center-ice-hd-9.html#post1591492

Heres is the latest through next Friday:
DirecTV: 153
Dish: 122
Cable: 50

So DirecTV did indeed have more HD games, but over the course of the season Dish will carry 80-85% of the number of HD games that DirecTV will. This year the numbers are actually a little higher in favor of Dish if you factor in DirecTV not carrying Versus.
Islandguy43
MY honest opinion of nhlci on TWC

As Iceberg mentioned there is going to be a bit of a difference because Dish uses HD for their regional sports networks on a gametime only basis, and due to capacity issues sometimes games get bumped from being broadcast in HD.

That said, there is still a lot of hockey being broadcast in standard definition at the source. The DirecTV guide can look better in some cases because they will show SD games on their HD channels because their RSNs are full-time. In some cases DirecTV will show games that Dish has to bump to SD due to capacity issues.

Neither Dish nor DirecTV will air in HD:
- Games on MSG/MSG+ due to a dispute between the NHL and the owners of CableVision who also own the NY Rangers.
- Most games played in Canada - there is limited HD production truck capability in the states, and it gets worse crossing the northern border. Outside of Hockey Night in Canada carried on the NHL Network, 99% of Canadian games are in SD for US viewers.

You can find the same complaints over lack of HD for Center Ice over in the DirecTV forum:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/191522-no-hd-center-ice-games-working.html
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv...oticed-less-hd-broadcasts-year-than-last.html
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/190459-nhl-center-ice-hd-canada-directv.html

Also, last season another user on this forum took the time to put together a spreadsheet to compare Dish vs Direct for number of HD games:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/150009-center-ice-hd-9.html#post1591492



So DirecTV did indeed have more HD games, but over the course of the season Dish will carry 80-85% of the number of HD games that DirecTV will. This year the numbers are actually a little higher in favor of Dish if you factor in DirecTV not carrying Versus.


Surprisingly the TWC version of NHL CI is actually better than Dish, which I had for the last three years.

How so?

1. We get the MSG games in HD, not only the buffalo, but the rangers, devils and islanders, when the appear on the regular msg and msg+

2. We get a mosiac channel of 4 games on at the same time on one channel, and if the game is in sd, the quality has been actually quite good, compared to the overcompressed sd I had in the past.

3. We get replays, something that I never saw before on the dedicated nhlci channels. If I miss a game overnight; I can watch many of them later during the night or the following morning or afternoon.

4. We have been getting the rogersportsnet and tsn hd feeds at times on the one always dedicated hd nhlci channel. So that along with my msg hd channels, the nhl net and hnic in hd, and versus hd, I am quite pleased with my nhlci on TWC.

The biggest downfall is the TWC is no where in the same class as Dish.
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1. We get the MSG games in HD, not only the buffalo, but the rangers, devils and islanders, when the appear on the regular msg and msg+
CableVision sells access to the HD feed of MSG/MSG+ to other cable companies because franchise agreements prevent direct competition in CableVision markets. So Comcast and TimeWarner get access because they operate in separate market areas, but competing services like ATT U-Verse, Verizon FiOS TV, and Dish Network do not. DirecTV is in the half doghouse where they can provide the HD feeds for their local RSN, but they can't include the feed on CI.

4. We have been getting the rogersportsnet and tsn hd feeds at times on the one always dedicated hd nhlci channel. So that along with my msg hd channels, the nhl net and hnic in hd, and versus hd, I am quite pleased with my nhlci on TWC.
That's the problem I have with cable Center Ice. InDemand provides 2 HD feeds total for Center Ice, and most providers only pick up 1 of those channels. That's completely unacceptable when the package is the same price as it is on Dish or DirecTV.

I'm glad cable works for you, but I think for die hard hockey fans (CI's target market) it tends to be an unacceptable alternative. For me personally I have to use 2 different services to get my fix, Dish for the US broadcasts (with up to 8 live HD feeds per night) + NHL Network + Versus and Shaw Direct to get the Rogers SportsNet, TSN, RDS, CBC, and the Flames PPV / Oilers PPV / Canucks PPV feeds in HD.
Islandguy43
I'm glad cable works for you, but I think for die hard hockey fans (CI's target market) it tends to be an unacceptable alternative. For me personally I have to use 2 different services to get my fix, Dish for the US broadcasts (with up to 8 live HD feeds per night) + NHL Network + Versus and Shaw Direct to get the Rogers SportsNet, TSN, RDS, CBC, and the Flames PPV / Oilers PPV / Canucks PPV feeds in HD.

You buying the ppv for the canadian teams?

Actually, I wouldn't buy the nhci package if my wife wasn't canadian and a leafs fan. Right here we get cbc on cable or ota, so I grew up with hnic. With Vs, nbc, nhl net, and cbc coverage, along with my local msg-buffalo coverage, I could get away without the extra expense of nhlci, but my wife won't go for that.
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You buying the ppv for the canadian teams?
Not directly. If you buy Center Ice in the Toronto region it gets you access to the PPV games from the Canucks, Flames, Senators, and Oilers. Those games are only PPV for each teams respective home market.

Technically for the Leafs they have their exclusive programming on LeafsTV, but this year all the exclusive games are away games that I get via Dish Center Ice anyway.
Islandguy43
Not directly. If you buy Center Ice in the Toronto region it gets you access to the PPV games from the Canucks, Flames, Senators, and Oilers. Those games are only PPV for each teams respective home market.

Technically for the Leafs they have their exclusive programming on LeafsTV, but this year all the exclusive games are away games that I get via Dish Center Ice anyway.

We get those ppv games on the CI package also. It is really amazing what subs are paying in the those cities to get those games.

I was at the sabres/leafs game Friday night. Considering I got the tickets at a season ticket holders cost; ($60), parking ($15), gift for the grandson at Sabres Store ($25), refreshments at at the game ($30) - Total of $130. The Center Ice Package of $160 for the year is a bargain.:)
wolfjc
Surprisingly the TWC version of NHL CI is actually better than Dish, which I had for the last three years.

How so?

1. We get the MSG games in HD, not only the buffalo, but the rangers, devils and islanders, when the appear on the regular msg and msg+

2. We get a mosiac channel of 4 games on at the same time on one channel, and if the game is in sd, the quality has been actually quite good, compared to the overcompressed sd I had in the past.

3. We get replays, something that I never saw before on the dedicated nhlci channels. If I miss a game overnight; I can watch many of them later during the night or the following morning or afternoon.

4. We have been getting the rogersportsnet and tsn hd feeds at times on the one always dedicated hd nhlci channel. So that along with my msg hd channels, the nhl net and hnic in hd, and versus hd, I am quite pleased with my nhlci on TWC.

The biggest downfall is the TWC is no where in the same class as Dish.

I don't know about where you live but here in Cincinnati TWC has only ONE HD channel for CI and they share it with the NBA package so guess which league get the HD channel.
I know this because I was checking into cable a while back and the TWC folks told me this.
Islandguy43
I don't know about where you live but here in Cincinnati TWC has only ONE HD channel for CI and they share it with the NBA package so guess which league get the HD channel.
I know this because I was checking into cable a while back and the TWC folks told me this.

In the Buffalo Area, we have a dedicated NHCI HD Channel (some nights we get a east coast and then a west coast HD game like this Wed 1/13 & Thurs 1/14); we get MSG and MSG+ in HD, plus the Buffalo Sabres MSG Channel; we get HNIC on the NHL Network in HD every Saturday, along with the Vs HD games and the NBC Games in HD.:)
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Two straight Sunday nights of watching the Ducks and Blackhawks with that terrible KDOC feed has my eyes hurting big time. It's unfortunate when neither broadcast is on one of the RSNs because the picture quality really takes a step backward with local station broadcasts.
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Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
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If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
(((Garyd)))
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
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add to greased pan
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