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Last reply Feb 1, 2010 · posted in The Sports Section

Plays that altered/changed sports history

Sometimes, in sports, there is a play or a moment in a game that can change everything- triggered a winning/losing streak, led to a player or team's rise/fall/changing the course of where a team/player goes, etc.

One play. One pitch. One hit. One shot. One moment where everything can change.

Can you recall any such moments?

I'll give you some examples:

1. Adam Vinatieri's 45 yard field goal to send the Raiders-Patriots Snow Bowl playoff game into overtime. If he misses that and the Raiders win the game in regulation, IMHO, the Tuck Rule would have not become a big deal.

2. Dwayne Bowe's failed onside kick recovery- In a 2008 Chargers/Chiefs game, San Diego trailed 21-16. His failure to recover an onside kick led to a Chargers win. The significance? If he recovers that kick, the Chiefs win the game, Denver wins the AFC West and San Diego misses the playoffs. If the Broncos had made the playoffs that year, Cutler/Shanahan would still be in the Mile High City.

3. Alex Rodriguez's ninth-inning homer in game 2 of the 2009 ALDS. His postseason reputation was dramaically altered with this one swing.

4. Scott Norwood's Wide Right. Bills would have had a Super Bowl, the NFC Super Bowl streak would have stopped at 6, and the legacies of Kelly, Reed, Thomas, etc. would have been completely different.

5. John Elway's Helicopter Play. It changed the way his career would be defined, as well as conferences in the Super Bowl. Before this, the NFC won 13 straight of these games- since then, they've triumphed only 3 times on Super Sunday.

5. Dave Roberts's steal of second base. Considering everything that came before and after it, I think it may be the most famous base theft of all time.

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SandraC

Jan 28, 2010

Oh my goodness, how could I mention game six and leave out Matteau! Matteau! Matteau!

Devils/Rangers semifinals, game seven at the Garden. Rangers leading 1-0 most of the game, Devils tie it with six seconds left. Six freaking seconds! Valeri Zelepukin scored it, and it almost literally made me puke.

My mom, who was not the biggest sports fan but got caught up in the Stanley Cup run because of my dad, my brothers and me, is so mad she goes upstairs crying during intermission.

Devils/Rangers allegiance is 50/50 on the Jersey Shore, and even she doesn't want to hear from Devil fans if we lose.

One overtime, numerous chances each way. A couple of posts for each team, the goalies are somehow keeping their teams in it.

Another intermission. My mother is asleep. Downstairs we can't take it. Being Ranger fans we of course focus on the negative, and we talk about how painful the loss will be. Six freaking seconds away from advancing, and we don't. You always joke about winning and misery, and this is the ultimate example.

Into the second OT, Matteau circles the net on a wraparound and banks it in off Brodeur. Our house (not to mention all of NY and half of NJ) erupts. As my dad and brothers tackle each other, I go running upstairs to tell my mom. We have 12 stairs, I think my feet hit two or three of them at the most. Mom wakes up, now she's crying because we won.

It's around midnight, but the phone starts ringing and won't stop for hours. Outside you can hear fireworks and horns honking, and this is partly Devils territory. I can't imagine what it was like in Brooklyn, Queens, etc., let alone in the Garden itself.

The next day, people are calling WFAN, and women are comparing what they went through last night with giving birth. Men are calling and comparing it to being in Vietnam.

It was the ultimate changing of sports history.

Sandra

AntAltMike

Jan 28, 2010

SandraC said:
Oh my goodness, how could I mention game six and leave out Matteau! Matteau! Matteau!...

Doesn't she host the show that follows Keith Olbermann's? I've never heard of any other Matteau. You can't put a hockey incident on the list because over 90% of the people in this country don't even know what hockey is. Who here ever played hockey in gymclass?

Mr Tony

Jan 28, 2010

I consider this one "play"

10/12/89

Minnesota Vikings received

* RB Herschel Walker
* Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1990 (54) (Mike Jones)
* San Diego's 5th round pick - 1990 (116) (Reggie Thornton)
* Dallas's 10th round pick - 1990 (249) (Pat Newman)
* Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1991 (68) (Jake Reed)

Dallas Cowboys received

* LB Jesse Solomon
* LB David Howard
* CB Issiac Holt
* RB Darrin Nelson (traded to San Diego after he refused to report to Dallas)
* DE Alex Stewart
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990 (21) (traded this pick along with pick (81) for pick (17) from Pittsburgh to draft Emmitt Smith)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990 (47) (Alexander Wright)
* Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990 (158) (traded to New Orleans, who drafted James Williams)
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (12) (Alvin Harper)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (38) (Dixon Edwards)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (37) (Darren Woodson)
* Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (71) (traded to New England, who drafted Kevin Turner)
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) - (13) (traded to Philadelphia Eagles, and then to the Houston Oilers, who drafted Brad Hopkins)

SabresRule

Jan 28, 2010

About that one-game playoff in 1978 that Bill mentioned earlier in the thread:

I did some research on that game. In retrospect, IMHO, a home run that Reggie Jackson hit later on turned out to be perhaps the most crucial hit of the game.

It gave NYY a 5-2 lead before Boston scored twice to make it 5-4.

If not for Reggie, then the game goes to extra innings. Maybe Boston wins, and Dent's homer becomes forgotten.

BillD1984

Jan 28, 2010

SabresRule said:
About that one-game playoff in 1978-

I did some research and came up with this- in retrospect, a home run that Reggie Jackson hit later on turned out to be perhaps the most crucial hit of the game.

It gave NYY a 5-2 lead before Boston scored twice to make it 5-4.

If not for Reggie, then the game goes to extra innings. Maybe Boston wins, and Dent's homer becomes forgotten.

Yup, that ball that Reggie hit was crushed into the CF bleachers.

But IMO, it was Lou Piniella's play in RF (right in front of me) that saved the game for the Yankees.............

SandraC

Jan 29, 2010

BillD1984 said:
Yup, that ball that Reggie hit was crushed into the CF bleachers.

But IMO, it was Lou Piniella's play in RF (right in front of me) that saved the game for the Yankees.............

The Piniella play is mentioned around here as much as Dent's homerun. He lost the ball in the sun but picked it up at the last second, preventing someone from scoring from second base on a hit I think. Is that right?

Sandra

BillD1984

Jan 29, 2010

SandraC said:
The Piniella play is mentioned around here as much as Dent's homerun. He lost the ball in the sun but picked it up at the last second, preventing someone from scoring from second base on a hit I think. Is that right?

Sandra

That is indeed correct, Sandra! :up

Rick Burleson was on first base, and Jerry Remy hit an absolute bullet to right that fell in front of Piniella.

Lou was blinded by the sun, but made an incredible play as he stuck his glove out. Not only did he stop Burleson from scoring the tying run (and prevented a very speedy Remy from getting at least a double), but he held him on second because the ball was hit so hard (this was very important, because there was one out and the next batter- Jim Rice- hit a deep sacrifice fly to RF).

And of course, Goose ended the game as he got Yaz to pop out to Graig Nettles.

AntAltMike

Jan 30, 2010

BillD1984 said:
And of course, Goose ended the game as he got Yaz to pop out to Graig Nettles.

There are two interesting "big time" stats about Yaz. One that in something like the 21 biggest games of his life, he hit about .500. But the other is, he made the last out of nearly every game.

dishcomm

Feb 1, 2010

AntAltMike said:
Doesn't she host the show that follows Keith Olbermann's? I've never heard of any other Matteau. You can't put a hockey incident on the list because over 90% of the people in this country don't even know what hockey is. Who here ever played hockey in gymclass?

ya know what? Tough darts.
Hockey is a great sport. NHL teams play to much higher percentage of seats filled to seats available than the NBA. You don't see any NHL players waving guns at each other in locker rooms.
We mock what we do not understand.
No need to respond. I commented. I did not invite a debate. You have your opinion. I have mine. Done.

dishcomm

Feb 1, 2010

Iceberg said:
I consider this one "play"

10/12/89

Minnesota Vikings received

* RB Herschel Walker
* Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1990 (54) (Mike Jones)
* San Diego's 5th round pick - 1990 (116) (Reggie Thornton)
* Dallas's 10th round pick - 1990 (249) (Pat Newman)
* Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1991 (68) (Jake Reed)

Dallas Cowboys received

* LB Jesse Solomon
* LB David Howard
* CB Issiac Holt
* RB Darrin Nelson (traded to San Diego after he refused to report to Dallas)
* DE Alex Stewart
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990 (21) (traded this pick along with pick (81) for pick (17) from Pittsburgh to draft Emmitt Smith)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990 (47) (Alexander Wright)
* Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990 (158) (traded to New Orleans, who drafted James Williams)
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (12) (Alvin Harper)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (38) (Dixon Edwards)
* Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (37) (Darren Woodson)
* Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (71) (traded to New England, who drafted Kevin Turner)
* Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) - (13) (traded to Philadelphia Eagles, and then to the Houston Oilers, who drafted Brad Hopkins)

That was penultimate idiotic "owner comes downstairs and fires the GM personally" trade in the history of professional sports.

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Ramy

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 1:27 PM

The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

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osu1991

Today at 1:32 PM

For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

Jimbo

Today at 2:16 PM

Yespage said:
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.

Yespage

Today at 3:04 PM

You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

Ronnie-

Today at 3:26 PM

I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.

Ronnie-

Today at 3:30 PM

osu1991 said:
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.

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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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bnewt

Today at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 4:56 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

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Almighty1

Today at 6:28 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

And the same reason why DISH removing satellite 118 for international channels is a bad idea as at least in my case, TVB Jade World costs $29.99/month and depends on a internet connection for the signal transport to the DISH Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus to stream the channel which makes it unavailable on DISH Anywhere and also I am providing the transport pipe at my own expense when it was supposed to be a dedicated connection via satellite between DISH and the DISH equipment.

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Scott Greczkowski said:
As sling tv sucks eggs.

PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! FROM A MISTER C ERGEN!……

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NYDutch

Today at 7:40 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.

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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Foxbat

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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.

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Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

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Foxbat

Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

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vlad_

Last reply Today at 4:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Thinking of switching to DirecTV

I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?

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navychop

Sep 28, 2026

I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

vlad_

Sep 29, 2026

navychop said:
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

slow_poke_pete

Sep 29, 2026

vlad_ said:
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

Tom Speer

Sep 29, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

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Jimbo

Oct 2, 2026

JSheridan said:
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?

Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 3, 2026

Jimbo said:
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

JSheridan

Oct 3, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 4, 2026

JSheridan said:
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

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JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

b4pjoe said:
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

why not just do a rebranding of the two :what

JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
why not just do a rebranding of the two

As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

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b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

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Nominal

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

JSheridan

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

JSheridan said:
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

Nominal said:
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin

been there

slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

JSheridan said:
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what

robjlevin

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:10 PM

Tom Speer said:
If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!

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Comptech

Last reply Today at 4:07 PM · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

Base antenna for SiriousXM

Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.

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cp2k

Jul 5, 2026

The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

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comfortably_numb

Jul 5, 2026

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Arctic_fox

Jul 6, 2026

cpalmer2k said:
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny

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Comptech

Jul 6, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!

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Comptech

Jul 7, 2026

Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.

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Arctic_fox

Jul 16, 2026

i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 4:07 PM

these are good for travel

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Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 12:33 PM

Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban

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Today at 12:44 PM

Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies

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Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders

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Cool Change - Little River Band

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Change Of The Guard - Steely Dan

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 2:53 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Oct 10, 2026

Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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dfergie

Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Mr Tony

Oct 19, 2026

Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles.

(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)

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TRG

Oct 19, 2026

Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.

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dfergie

Oct 19, 2026

Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)

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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.

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