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OK, so I have the choice extra or whatever plan with an old dvr and have been a customer for 10 years. I wanted to save money but since my tv broke I got a new 50 in. plasma tv, and want the HD, etc. However, talking with Directv they wanted a discounted 99 bucks for the HD-DVR plus they did not have a decent package I wanted, so I started looking at DISH because of their Free HD DVR, plus their America 120 pack and free everything. It would cost 40.99 with Dish that pack, plus HD, plus DVR.
Directv was 60+ dollars plus the 99 fee for the HD DVR, etc. SO I called last night to cancel and go with Dish but I happend to get a very nice "JOE" at Directv. When I told him my situation and we talked for 50 min. he ended up saying he did not want to lose me to Dish and said here, we'll give you the SELECT program, (which I knew about from here) 120 channels and match their 24.99 price, we will give you the HD DVR for FREE, but we'll go one step further, we'll waive the 10 HD fee as well for the first year. So instead of cancelling and going with Dish for the NEW customer discount of 40.99, I am with Directv have the SELECT package, have a new HD DVR, free install, free everything and free HD for the year and will pay 36.99! Plus Starz and Showtime for 6 months. Not bad! Thanks JOE!
Directv was 60+ dollars plus the 99 fee for the HD DVR, etc. SO I called last night to cancel and go with Dish but I happend to get a very nice "JOE" at Directv. When I told him my situation and we talked for 50 min. he ended up saying he did not want to lose me to Dish and said here, we'll give you the SELECT program, (which I knew about from here) 120 channels and match their 24.99 price, we will give you the HD DVR for FREE, but we'll go one step further, we'll waive the 10 HD fee as well for the first year. So instead of cancelling and going with Dish for the NEW customer discount of 40.99, I am with Directv have the SELECT package, have a new HD DVR, free install, free everything and free HD for the year and will pay 36.99! Plus Starz and Showtime for 6 months. Not bad! Thanks JOE!
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4 Rooms of HD DVRs is not. Thats a huge upfront cost for both providers,and I don't care how many claim they got 3 or 4 for free.
I still think 2 HD HVRs is a high assumption for the average customer.
I bet most HD customers are using H-2* and Vip 211-222, and May have 1 HD DVR..
I know a lot of people that don't even have HD.
I know of 1 person in real life that has 2 HD DVRs from D* and the others are SD D11s, And he works for D*.
I'm the only one out of my friends and Family that Have 2 Duo HD DVR's from E*.
It seems 1 HD DVR Duo and a 222 or 211 is the normal.
But were not Using 4-6 HD DVRS as a baseline since thats most likly less then .05% of satellite customers. Thats Just what D* Fans do to try and Even up the score, when really they are just jacking up the D* costs and don't even realize it.
6 HD DVR's From D* would cost a customer $32 in Fees alone plus, and Atleast $895 in upfront costs, Gimmie a break !
D* not giving out 6 of these for free to a guy with Choice Extra pack.
What so D* can lose money on a customer? Not going to happen.
Thats sound more like whats really out there, But again look around the forums. 3-4 rooms of service is most likly the Normal.
4 Rooms of HD DVRs is not. Thats a huge upfront cost for both providers,and I don't care how many claim they got 3 or 4 for free.
I still think 2 HD HVRs is a high assumption for the average customer.
I bet most HD customers are using H-2* and Vip 211-222, and May have 1 HD DVR..
I know a lot of people that don't even have HD.
I know of 1 person in real life that has 2 HD DVRs from D* and the others are SD D11s, And he works for D*.
I'm the only one out of my friends and Family that Have 2 Duo HD DVR's from E*.
It seems 1 HD DVR Duo and a 222 or 211 is the normal.
But were not Using 4-6 HD DVRS as a baseline since thats most likly less then .05% of satellite customers. Thats Just what D* Fans do to try and Even up the score, when really they are just jacking up the D* costs and don't even realize it.
6 HD DVR's From D* would cost a customer $32 in Fees alone plus, and Atleast $895 in upfront costs, Gimmie a break !
D* not giving out 6 of these for free to a guy with Choice Extra pack.
What so D* can lose money on a customer? Not going to happen.
Thats sound more like whats really out there, But again look around the forums. 3-4 rooms of service is most likly the Normal.
4 Rooms of HD DVRs is not. Thats a huge upfront cost for both providers,and I don't care how many claim they got 3 or 4 for free.
I still think 2 HD HVRs is a high assumption for the average customer.
I bet most HD customers are using H-2* and Vip 211-222, and May have 1 HD DVR..
I know a lot of people that don't even have HD.
I know of 1 person in real life that has 2 HD DVRs from D* and the others are SD D11s, And he works for D*.
I'm the only one out of my friends and Family that Have 2 Duo HD DVR's from E*.
It seems 1 HD DVR Duo and a 222 or 211 is the normal.
But were not Using 4-6 HD DVRS as a baseline since thats most likly less then .05% of satellite customers. Thats Just what D* Fans do to try and Even up the score, when really they are just jacking up the D* costs and don't even realize it.
6 HD DVR's From D* would cost a customer $32 in Fees alone plus, and Atleast $895 in upfront costs, Gimmie a break !
D* not giving out 6 of these for free to a guy with Choice Extra pack.
What so D* can lose money on a customer? Not going to happen.
Ummm are you on something?
Your making no sense.
I never mention 4 hddvrs / or 6 Alot of customers are now getting free 2nd hddvrs and dish website when I went to it and I told it 2 hd tvs 2 regular suggested the hddvr duos.
So I think and even being fair as sayin lets assume for all purposes from now on 2 hddvr duos for E* vs 2hddvrs and 2sd for D*
with E* that is a wnat 17 dollars since the first is covered
Now from looking at the pricing structure 2 722 would be cheaper then say 1x 722 1x 221 1x301/311
If you think I am being unfair say so but dont put numbers in my mouth. I never said 4 or 6 as while I might own 4 and 2 hd non dvrs with dish and 4 hr2x boxes i never said I was normal and never mentioned thoses boxes till now.
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Anyway, I posted your compairison in the War Zone , Check it out.
I never said you , But read all the post defending D* and you'll see what I meant.
Anyway, I posted your compairison in the War Zone , Check it out.
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke 
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Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…