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n1wbd
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It was announced about a month ago that a ham radio and scanner forums was going to be added to the site. Just wondering if there was any update as to when they'll launch?

Bob
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Scott if you need a mod per se to run it I dont have an issue being the mod assigned to it. :)

Most of us mods handle the whole site anyways if there are issues :)
goaliebob99
Scott if you need a mod per se to run it I dont have an issue being the mod assigned to it. :)

Most of us mods handle the whole site anyways if there are issues :)


Ice, Are you a ham radio op? If so what's your call sign? Mine Is Kilo Niner Sierra Alpha Tango (K9SAT) I think for the ham radio forum's the mods should have a callsign, (right of passage of going through the testing process) After all how are you going to tell a guy he's wrong about Digipeating and the messaging processes if you don't know what its about. There is alot to learn in this area as Ham radio is very very diverse, much more that Free to Air!
M
Ice, Are you a ham radio op?
no I am not. Never have been

After all how are you going to tell a guy he's wrong about Digipeating and the messaging processes if you don't know what its about. There is alot to learn in this area as Ham radio is very very diverse, much more that Free to Air!
um, lets see Bob.

Scott wants to have it as a ham and scanner forum. Last I checked I have a few police scanners in my house so hmm I guess that qualifies ;)
2nd...we tried this before (a ham forum) and there was very little traffic so Scott got rid of it. Will it work this time? Who knows but unless a bunch of folks here all of a sudden became hams there still wont be a lot of traffic.
3rd...gee I didnt know I HAD to know about ham radio to be a mod. Don't know what the hell the last part of your post (the jab at FTA) is for. Most staff here don't need to say "oh so and so is right". Its more of making sure there is no flaming on posts, combine threads etc. Most staff crosses the whole site. Other mods go and take care of reported posts in the FTA area if I'm not around. :)
pro96
Well I am not a ham, but been listening to scanners since I got my first Pro-34
goaliebob99
no I am not. Never have been


um, lets see Bob.

Scott wants to have it as a ham and scanner forum. Last I checked I have a few police scanners in my house so hmm I guess that qualifies ;)
2nd...we tried this before (a ham forum) and there was very little traffic so Scott got rid of it. Will it work this time? Who knows but unless a bunch of folks here all of a sudden became hams there still wont be a lot of traffic.
3rd...gee I didnt know I HAD to know about ham radio to be a mod. Don't know what the hell the last part of your post (the jab at FTA) is for. Most staff here don't need to say "oh so and so is right". Its more of making sure there is no flaming on posts, combine threads etc. Most staff crosses the whole site. Other mods go and take care of reported posts in the FTA area if I'm not around. :)


Wow, talk about attitude there ice!

It was my understanding that the ham radio and scanner forums were two separate forums! :cool:


I dont certainty ever remember there being a ham radio forum here in the past five years that I have been here! Looking at this thread obviously there are requests for it. So why not give it another shot if indeed there was one before!

I only suggested that the moderator of the ham radio forum be one for common ground as there is alot to ham radio. Ice, please dont let your personal convictions take place of a good topic. After all If I suggest anything your jumping down my throat. And if thats the way you are acting towards me, I can only imagine why no one would want to be in our ham radio forum. Especially if you know nothing about the topic. Who are you to say what goes on in the ham radio forum, It has yet to be decided what goes on in there and not only that, I dont see anyone telling you how to run your area of this site! So why should you do the same to others. Its very hypocritical!

Also, I wasn't making a jab about Free to air, its a known fact that there is much more to ham radio than free to air, but then again you dont know because you dont have your ticket (aka callsign) So please, dont take it as a jab as its not. I know that you dont know because you wouldn't of said what you said if you knew.

I want the best for all of our satguy hams thats out there and if thats too much for you, im sorry I dont know what to say. How about this, Why not let me run with it and Ill teach you everything you need to know from foxhunting to Dxing! Hell we might even find common ground. I dont know of any other hobby where you can littarlly bounce signals off of the moon to talk to someone halfway across the world (and you dont even need to do that)

You could learn alot and realize there is much more to learn as ham radio is a very good hobby (up there with FTA) :up So chilax. Having a ticket for the ham radio moderators is a good thing, in fact every major ham radio site requires it! If you dont have your ticket they wont give you the time of the day because with your licence that the FCC gives you, it comes with special privileges! You have no idea what those privelages are until you earn them via your licence category.

So lets get that Signal to Noise ratio down a bit and learn about how fun it is to go on a foxhunt or what its like to get that first contact. Feild day is coming up, I invite you to go to your local ham radio club and learn what its all about. They should have a gota station up (get on the air) No license is required for it, as long as there is a license ham around. Once you make that first contact your hooked for life!

"73" - And good luck on any future contacts QSL!
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Wow, talk about attitude there ice!
no attitude here :)

It was my understanding that the ham radio and scanner forums were two separate forums! :cool:
I figured it would be one but if Scott feels the need for two forums then thats fine. Maybe start it as one and if two are needed (like when the C-Band area and 4DTV broke off into 2 forums) then break it off

I dont certainty ever remember there being a ham radio forum here in the past five years that I have been here!
there was a ham forum a long time ago...maybe 4-5 years ago (maybe 6 I forget). It didnt have much traffic so it was closed out

Ice, please dont let your personal convictions take place of a good topic.
what are you talking about Bob? Myself and pro 96 were having some good conversation about police scanners :)

After all If I suggest anything your jumping down my throat. And if thats the way you are acting towards me, I can only imagine why no one would want to be in our ham radio forum. Especially if you know nothing about the topic. Who are you to say what goes on in the ham radio forum, It has yet to be decided what goes on in there and not only that, I dont see anyone telling you how to run your area of this site! So why should you do the same to others. Its very hypocritical!
uh Bob try again. I do know about how ham radio works so saying I know nothing about the topic is bull. Funny how you are supposedly putting words in my mouth when all I posted originally is "Scott if you need a mod for that area I can help out" and then you start attacking me. Please post where I was saying how to run the forum.


Also, I wasn't making a jab about Free to air, its a known fact that there is much more to ham radio than free to air, but then again you dont know because you dont have your ticket (aka callsign) So please, dont take it as a jab as its not. I know that you dont know because you wouldn't of said what you said if you knew.
hmmm sounded like a jab to me.

How about this, Why not let me run with it
uh sorry Bob but you were staff here before and you screwed that up. You had many many chances and you kept blowing it.
goaliebob99
no attitude here :)

The way it was written certainty was perceived that way!


I figured it would be one but if Scott feels the need for two forums then thats fine. Maybe start it as one and if two are needed (like when the C-Band area and 4DTV broke off into 2 forums) then break it off

Cband and 4DTV are very similar topics, Ham radio and Scanners are completely diffrent topics. The only common trending is you can listen to ham radio on a scanner. But with ham radio there are multiple topics that have nothing to do with scanners.

there was a ham forum a long time ago...maybe 4-5 years ago (maybe 6 I forget)

4-6 years is a long time to not revisit a topic. Its like posting in a uverse forum 4 years ago when Uverse was non existent.

what are you talking about Bob? Myself and pro 96 were having some good conversation :)

Yes you indeed were, while I was typing my response. Took me a while though. :)

uh Bob try again. I do know about how ham radio works so saying I know nothing about the topic is bull. Funny how you are supposedly putting words in my mouth when all I posted originally is "Scott if you need a mod for that area I can help out" and then you start attacking me.

Iceberg I never attacked you, and you perceived it as such, infact with alot of my posts when ever they are directed twards your general line of area, you allways are the one to take it the wrong way. I dont know what it is, but with you (your the only one) that seems to take things wrong. Looking at my OP, I asked you if you were a ham radio op, and gave you my call sign. If you were, I was going to see about hooking up with you on Echolink. Its a very common thing to exchange call signs like that, and with you not knowing it, its not putting words into your mouth, its common knowledge that one should know as a ham radio op. I then suggested that ham radio forum should have moderators that have their tickets and gave an example of a situation where the moderator should have direct knowledge of the subject they are moderating over. Just like you have direct knowledge of FTA, Rocky has direct knowledge of dish, ect.

I cant help it if you perceive the message as such of an attack, because anyone who knows any little bit about ham radio knows that wasn't a direct attack

There is a difference between calling you a dirt bag (thats an attack - only used as an example) and posting what I posted. I cant fix stupid and if only you perceive it like an attack because you dont like me, when reality is much different there isnt nothing I can do about that. But being a Moderator here you should show great care about what is posted here and what you show to the public and our site sponsors. I know im the one to talk because of my past, Yea I screwed up but I learned my lesson. Is there anything I can do to change the past, nope, only the future. So please, do take great care before jumping on any member who is not a hacker! You have to be 100 percent positive what was said was the message intent! After this message I will be effectively walking away and going to bed! Why? Cause there's no more need to be discussing an attack that was never there.

hmmm sounded like a jab to me.

Ill leave that one alone.

uh sorry Bob but you were staff here before and you screwed that up. You had many many chances and you kept blowing it.

Nice of you to keep kicking a guy down. In fact I'm calling for your immediate resignation! Why? because you obvious have something against me and have to continuously bring up the past.. Is very obvious you cant let the past go! Ice, Im sorry that you cant forgive and forget. Im sorry that your so selfish to even bring that up. I lost all respect for you. But the truth is no matter how much good I do, you are the one who would still find a way to kick a guy down. Its very sad!

You know I understand that you have done alot for the Free to Air area, and I respect that, but its very sad when moderators get there kicks on kicking down members of this site no matter who the member is. For that you should resign.. Its no better than DBSTALK, and if you cant understand that, Im sorry for you.
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Well I am not a ham, but been listening to scanners since I got my first Pro-34

I found a pic of that scanner from an old Radio Shack catalog. That's an old school model :)
n1wbd
Hey guys please cool it! If this type of stuff keeps up we'll never get the Ham and Scanner forums. :(



The way it was written certainty was perceived that way!
n1wbd
Can we have a rollcall of hams that are here... Maybe your favorite Ham radio page??
My favorite is As the World Turn's run by K1TP Amateur Radio's only R rated newsletter updated daily.

AWT

Bob N1WBD Grafton NH

UR 59 59 73 and GL in the contest!! :D
pro96
I found a pic of that scanner from an old Radio Shack catalog. That's an old school model :)

Yea that's cool and look at that price. Only thing I did not like about the Pro-34 was the scanning speed (6ch/sec) so by upgrading the proper crystal you would scan just as fast as the Pro-37. Also by removing a Diode you would open up the 800Mhz band with no gaps which was fun at the time .. shhhhhh lol
M
Yea that's cool and look at that price.
yeah I know. Crazy price. But then again they wanted over a 100 bucks for a 10 channel back then

Only thing I did not like about the Pro-34 was the scanning speed (6ch/sec) so by upgrading the proper crystal you would scan just as fast as the Pro-37. Also by removing a Diode you would open up the 800Mhz band with no gaps which was fun at the time .. shhhhhh lol
hee hee :)
goaliebob99
Hey guys please cool it! If this type of stuff keeps up we'll never get the Ham and Scanner forums. :(


I wouldn't worry, all this chat will be moved to the new Ham/Scanner chat when it finally opens up. :D


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HIFI
Can we have a rollcall of hams that are here... Maybe your favorite Ham radio page??
My favorite is As the World Turn's run by K1TP Amateur Radio's only R rated newsletter updated daily.

AWT

Bob N1WBD Grafton NH

UR 59 59 73 and GL in the contest!! :D
not a ham but do have the pro34 and pro96
pro96
not a ham but do have the pro34 and pro96

Nice units .. Pro-96 is a monster, why U think my user name is ....
mikelib
Ham Radio Operator 52 years, operate 2 meter repeater mostly, Treasurer of the local Ham Radio Club. I am a scanner and shortwave listener. Have a bearcat BCD396T for local scanning, a Radio Shack DX440 for shortwave.

I use the scanner to receive APRS packets from the ISS.

If there is a scanner and ham radio forum I will check in and post.

I'm glad that Ice volunteer to help with the forum as I post in the FTA area and find Ice to be a good moderator.

See all you Ham guys at Dayton and hope to work you all on Field Day, keep an ear out for N2OB, the Old Barney Amateur Radio Club.
mikelib
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
T
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
T
They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Y
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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meStevo
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!
cpdretired
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1
wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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· posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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