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Hi all, I used to have the Dish HD Absolute package and a ViP 222. Was out of contract and did not like the receiver very much so I cancelled. Dish sent me the return box and left a message on my voice mail that they wanted the receiver back so I sent it the same day I received the return box. Right after returning the receiver I got a good offer by mail saying Dish wants me back. It had an expiration date for the end of September. So after thinking about it for a while I called today and was surprised when the CSR said sorry we can not re-start your account because you sent the receiver back. I then said why not just start me over. Sorry we can't do that.
To me this seems like a strange way to run a business. Why waste the money on the special offer brochure? They should have sent me a post card with a finger on it! Maybe put the words thanks for being a former customer, now go away and don't come back!
Does Dish have a drug free work policy?
Later, DC
To me this seems like a strange way to run a business. Why waste the money on the special offer brochure? They should have sent me a post card with a finger on it! Maybe put the words thanks for being a former customer, now go away and don't come back!
Does Dish have a drug free work policy?
Later, DC
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I starting complaining about picture quality years ago . I just figured this is as good as it gets . I switched because of certain policies in place for Dish and the picture quality is soooo much better . You would think it is all the same . It is not . I love the picture and bothers me that I did not switch many years ago . As for the offer . Just another " the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing " . As soon as I canceled , I got a mailing for two free movies . LOL . Dish is more interested in getting new customers and the emphasis on losing existing customers has lessened considerably . They had me for 13 years and I was paying wayyyy over $ 100 a month and did not care . Funny thing is , I explained to the folks I am with now what happened ( DVR Fee ) , and they discounted it for me . When all was said and done , I got a better deal for the 2 year term than Dish would give . Try some other company . You might realize you did the right thing .
I starting complaining about picture quality years ago . I just figured this is as good as it gets . I switched because of certain policies in place for Dish and the picture quality is soooo much better . You would think it is all the same . It is not . I love the picture and bothers me that I did not switch many years ago . As for the offer . Just another " the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing " . As soon as I canceled , I got a mailing for two free movies . LOL . Dish is more interested in getting new customers and the emphasis on losing existing customers has lessened considerably . They had me for 13 years and I was paying wayyyy over $ 100 a month and did not care . Funny thing is , I explained to the folks I am with now what happened ( DVR Fee ) , and they discounted it for me . When all was said and done , I got a better deal for the 2 year term than Dish would give . Try some other company . You might realize you did the right thing .
Hi, if you over think the way Dish operates perhaps they are really very clever and not a bunch of idiots like we think. Maybe what they want is new customers with the potential to sell them lots of PPV and other high profit movie and sport channels. When you take a look at my history with them I was a cheap customer that never got any PPV or other stuff. Perhaps they really are better off trying to hook a new customer then keeping one of their low profit customers.
It's a bit like fishing, not happy with what you just pulled up - throw it back and try again.
Later, DC
Cost of aquiring new sub is about 700 bucks. new subs take a long time to become profitable.
Perhaps some of the chat behavior is influcing decision making?
in any case everyone will get interested in retention if they churn a couple million subs this quarter...
upper eschleon offices will be getting repainted, with new names on doors, and charlie & company can return to their roots
after learning a very expensive but valuable lesson
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Based on some of the posts in this forum.... As a group, DishHD Absolute subs's unwillingness to switch to packages costing 2-3 times as much with less HD channels, coupled with not ordering enough VOD and PPV has been the primary cause of the stalled economic recovery. So I'm expecting a personal call from Ben Bernanke explaining that the entire world's economy depends on Americans spending more than they make and begging HD Absolute subs to quit being so selfishly thrifty
Talon Dancer
p.s. I've heard that the reason Dish quit calling HD Absolute subs was because they knew the FED was going to start putting some muscle on us.
Can you blame them?
Based on some of the posts in this forum.... As a group, DishHD Absolute subs's unwillingness to switch to packages costing 2-3 times as much with less HD channels, coupled with not ordering enough VOD and PPV has been the primary cause of the stalled economic recovery. So I'm expecting a personal call from Ben Bernanke explaining that the entire world's economy depends on Americans spending more than they make and begging HD Absolute subs to quit being so selfishly thrifty
Talon Dancer
p.s. I've heard that the reason Dish quit calling HD Absolute subs was because they knew the FED was going to start putting some muscle on us.
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The question I have is did you receive a letter from Dish network? or was it a flyer?.You would like to believe a letter would be from Dish network,where a flyer is from independent contractors who don't know anything case in point.I'm a Dish network subscriber and get flyers about coming back to Dish network in my mail all the time.
The question I have is did you receive a letter from Dish network? or was it a flyer?.You would like to believe a letter would be from Dish network,where a flyer is from independent contractors who don't know anything case in point.I'm a Dish network subscriber and get flyers about coming back to Dish network in my mail all the time.
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
www.autoweek.com
The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
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Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.
That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:
Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”
An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.
Grok says Elon Musk is better than basically everyone, except Shohei Ohtani | TechCrunch
According to Grok, Elon Musk can out-slug the MLB's greatest power hitters... except Ohtani.
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Grok's loyalty known no bounds - AI chatbot chooses Elon Musk over LeBron James in a 'Who is the fittest' comparison | NBA News - The Times of India
NBA News: Elon Musk's AI chatbot, Grok, has sparked amusement by consistently choosing its owner over prominent figures like LeBron James and Albert Einstein wh
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Grok 4 appears to seek Elon Musk's views when answering controversial questions
XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.
Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.
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My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke 
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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