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I have had a Az Premium + since last year and around Christmas got frustrated and just quit using it, except to play 4:2:2 feeds.I, like most who have been into these pages, have gotten frustrated , changed software, cursed other updates, on and on, and danced around the AzBoz FW issues. In February, I decided to get back to it, and see if I could tame this bull down a bit and ride him for 8 seconds or so...After 250+ hours and many kicks in the ribs, I have now found a way to work around most of the software issues on the AZbox. I have tested this method with old and new software, and it works 100%, as I will outline for you below. Before I get started, I would like to mention a few things to keep in mind when you are reading this or before you try it out:
1. This is for people who want to use the premium + as an everyday good player, and edit channels and blindscan, using only the Azbox and feel like you are using one of the other boxes, but play more channels! I am not discussing software issues with the Browser or UTube or how that relates to a particular FW Release.. this is only for the AZ used as a box for playing, scanning and editing as a primary box .
2. I have been through the Maz Edit stuff, and I am not discussing editing programs here, because I was never able to get anything to work perfectly, and always had the box return to original lists etc. etc. and that whole deal that is discussed here in many threads.
3. I do not use the AZBOX for feed hunting and backhaul etc., as the software is not stable enough yet for that, there are always issues, so I personally use a Vantage 1100S for scanning when I want to get into stuff quickly. HOWEVER, I strongly feel that the P+ is as good a scanning box as there is out there. It blindscans better than Pansats and Sathawks overall..
4. I often times refer to "other" boxes. I currently have Pansat 9200HD's, SatHawkPVR800, Az Premium, Vantage 1100S, and a shelf full of old an new Sonicview, Viewsat, SonySat, DreamBox, and CoolSats... and a couple old Silver Bullets...(now you know how old I am!) So over the years I have been into it, like many of you, and take liberty to compare things to "other" boxes.
5. My setup is a dual orthomode system, so I have 2 sats named for each Position on many Sats, one for C band and one for KU when it applies.
OK, that being said, I am hoping like most that AZBOX will clean up the software and address the many issues that need to be worked on , but here is a way to work around those issues and have a good box.

1. This should be name "REboot Camp" and I'll go into it below...REBOOTING is the most essential part of this whole deal, and I'll cover it when it needs to be done below.

2. This method is working for all software I've tested, and currently I'm using the newest release 5020. I thought before the new stuff was no good, and older issues were better, but that is not the case. The first and perhaps most important thing to do, is load the software after "Formatting Application Area" I Format 2 times, just for the heck of it to hopefully get out all older files and start fresh.. This must be done . I use the resolution button on the remote to get back into the proper setup as the box will revert to PAL and you need to setup there first, then get into the Settings pages.

3. Now with the box cleaned ,I do the usual setup and get ready to blindscan and start setting up my Sat and Channel lists. I have found another secret, and I know others use it as well, and that is that I completely delete the Sat lists on the software...I do not leave anything there at all...You can delete and delete for about 20 minutes to get it done, but IT MUST BE DONE. When you get to one last Sat, you need to enter your first SAT that you want to work with. If you delete the last Sat on the list, the box glitches, and then reboots, and you still have that Sat on there...So keep track of where you are, leave one Sat on there, and load your 1st Sat onto the list..When the new Sat is on the list, then you must delete the last Sat from the software list...If you do not do this, this Sat will come back to haunt you, and cause the box to want to return to it's original list, and raise all sorts of issues... Now you have your one and only Sat Listed in the Sat list... REBOOT the BOX NOW. Rebooting, I believe is acting like Save on a regular computer...If you do not REBOOT and have this whole effort you just went through Saved properly, the box will glitch.

4. You are now back into Setup and ready to load all your other Sats, and Download and Edit. BUT...You can only do one Sat at a time...and complete the entire Sat setup before you move on to another Sat. i.e. you blindscan, the channels are there, and you must clean up the Channel and TP list before moving on... You can not blindscan several sats with the idea of "coming back later and editing and cleaning up" It will not work.
I delete all the scrambled channels and others I do not want.. then I make a list of the TP's that I am using for those channels, and I delete all the TP's that are not being used. When that is finished I double check everything and REBOOT THE BOX..This is the most important thing always REBOOT after finishing up a Sat. And never move on untill you have done So.
Then you can go ahead and roll through all your Sats one at a time and REBOOTING after each Sat is cleaned up.
It takes time...It takes me about 20 hours to do my whole setup...BUT when it's done its done.
REMEMBER: DELETE ALL CHANNELS YOU DO NOT WANT AND ALL TP"S THAT ARE NOT BEING USED BEFORE MOVING ON...AND REBOOT
If you do this you will sail right through and the software won't even know you are there...

5.This is another very important issue I have found out about the hard way. If I make an error and perhaps not have my Switch designation correct in my setup and I begin to blindscan a Sat that should be #3 on the Diseq and I have it as #1, then that is a real problem...You can not just go back and reset the antenna settings and start again...You need to DELETE that Sat, even if you did not get any TP's yet...Delete it, and then REBOOT the box again! Then you are back to where you were , and can setup the Sat correctly and move on.
If you do not Delete that Sat, it will come back and GET YOU.... So be Careful. Always double check everything before moving on into blindscan..This goes for any errors you make in Setup, like starting to scan another Sat and you haven't move your dish and you end up seeing all the channels from the last sat you downloaded....You must delete the Sat completely, you can not just clean up and delete TP's and start again, the memory will not clean unless it is Deleted and then REBOOTED.

6. I have found that in Editing using the box only, I can Delete, and Rename and clean up the list just fine...I have found that at times MOVING a channel will cause issues. The AZ likes to have the channels listed the way it lands them in your list..I always leave my lists by TP lowest to highest, and it works fine...if I decide to move my favorite channels up to the top of the list this will cause problems..So one is better off doing your Favorite lists, and leaving the channels alone, not MOVING any of them in the original downloaded list, but again you can edit without any problems on Renaming and Deleting.

7. I have been using the new software since it's release with no problem, and anytime I want to recan a Sat or TP I can do so, as long as I REBOOT after I have the new info edited.

8. So, REBOOT... that's all I can say...This has cleaned up all glitches on my box...I believe the Premium + could be used as a backhaul/feed hunter, but until the software issues get cleaned up, I prefer to use the Vantage for that, and then if I find something of interest I add it on to the P+ and Reboot after I have it listed... The P+ works as well as most and better than many other boxes on these initial scans..I have had very few issues with the Blindscan, as long as I REBOOT after inputting info.
I know many of you will say..."Hey, egghead...use editing software", but I have , and there are still many issues, and in the long run, after editing with software, and then having the box revert to another list, on and on and that whole dance, this method is the best I have found, and it works..
I hope this helps many of you out that are having problems with your lists, and rescanning over n over, and losing channels and all that stuff that AZboxes are famous for...This system works..Best of luck and I hope that others add to this, when needed and feel free to ask questions.. Happy REBOOTING !!!! HB
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Babadem
This is a nice step by step of howto on the AZBox. Great job!
J
Achebee, I am awaiting delivery of my AZBox Premium Plus. I am just learning/ reading about this Receiver, can I ask a question - when you say ReBoot do you mean switch off the Power on the Back AC Power Switch or is it much more involved than that?
Babadem
Achebee, I am awaiting delivery of my AZBox Premium Plus. I am just learning/ reading about this Receiver, can I ask a question - when you say ReBoot do you mean switch off the Power on the Back AC Power Switch or is it much more involved than that?
Press and hold the power button on the remote or power off from the switch on the back of the receiver.
J
Press and hold the power button on the remote or power off from the switch on the back of the receiver.

Thanks Babadem guess it was a trivial Question but now at least I know. Hope the constant Rebooting doesn't cause a problem as I have been told there has been a 50% Power Failure rate with the Premium HD + External Power Supplies. Guess that will be a good way to know if the Power Supply I have is any good!!

Also great info for us AZBox beginners Achebee, I hope it all works out as my main initial goal is to get the unit up and running to receive C and KU Band Satellites.
beavs2112
hey all. also another thing about the AZ being similar to a computer. you can put it in sleep mode etc. just press the power button on the remote for say 2 seconds then release. a new list should show up on-screen with a timer on top. i think the timer is counting down from 10 seconds. your choices are sleep,reboot,shutdown etc. just use the up/down keys for your choice and press ok. i prefer this method because it lets the box do its thing naturally rather than just turning the thing off suddenly. after all you wouldn't usually just power off your computer suddenly without shutting down your operating system first.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
comfortably_numb
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


View: https://youtu.be/_DhEEo5S9fg
Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
osu1991
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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Foxbat
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
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Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
I just bought a Ram 1500 truck with a 3 month free trial. What to do when it ends?

All I want is music and news, but it is listed for $11.99 + $5.00 more for news. But $16.99 per month isn't worth it to me.
comfortably_numb
What to do when it ends?

Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
harshness
Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
Jimbo
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
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Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Jimbo
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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TRG
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
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yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
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Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bday ;).
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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