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Last reply Oct 18, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Horrible First Experience with Dish

I had the Dish Network installed Friday nite with a HD DVR receiver. I had the same setup with Comcast and had no problems with them, DIsh just had better pricing for what I needed. Our picture with the Dish setup is great, but there is a huge lag when changing channels, anywhere from 5-10 seconds. I have never seen a lag of any kind with Comcast or Direct TV. The lag is so bad that watching TV is not an enjoyable experience. Dish Network tech support informed me that anything less than 10 seconds is acceptable and is within their guidelines. It may be their guidelines, but certainly not mine. I called to cancel my service and was told that since I had signed a contract that I would be charged a $420 fee. I explained that my service had never worked and that the service was not acceptable. This is a joke of the worst kind. Now I read that this lag problem is prevalent with their service.

Two questions: Has anyone gotten this problem fixed? If not did you have any luck canceling your service without paying a termination fee?

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stardust3

Oct 10, 2010

Using your guide to browse rather than channel surfing will make all the difference for you. Give it a try.

skyviewmark

Oct 11, 2010

The biggest mental thing to change is the way that you watch TV.. It is not feasible to scroll through the channels.. The Lag will kill you.. Use the Guide to scroll the program list.. Find what you want then make the channel change..

3HaloODST

Oct 16, 2010

Probably a troll thread, however I will say that ANY satellite TV provider will have a slightly longer delay between channel changes, compared to cable. That's just a minor setback of having your TV signal travel 22,000 miles your way. I noticed you said DirecTV doesn't have this lag. Have you ever actually used DirecTV? It's almost the same in terms of "channel switching lag" except most of the DirecTV receivers themselves are a lot slower than the DISH receivers.

Digital cable channel changing will be slightly faster, but the days of the old analog TV "channel surfing" are over, if you want anything more than Expanded Basic cable. Digital cable channel-switching lag is slightly shorter, but again, NOTHING compared to the old-fashioned days of analog TV.

Welcome to the digital age, and the 21st century.

It's almost like those who complain about having to have a receiver for every TV instead of just plugging the coax directly in. Those days on the cable system are numbered, and soon enough cable will require receivers for all TVs as well. Or if you want the digital tier on cable, you'll already need one.

Heck even over-the-air is no longer analog, and has a delay compared to the analog days. It's even shorter than digital cable, however still long enough to prevent "channel surfing."

U-verse TV by far has the fastest digital channel changes I've ever seen, even faster than over-the-air, however still not quite as fast as the analog days. Also, U-verse's mediocre HD quality negates them as an option for me anyway.

Anyway, happy trolling!

KazooGuy

Oct 16, 2010

I find this hard to believe. If this is true I am going to guess it is the television having the problem with the HDMI connection and not the sat box.

TheKrell

Oct 16, 2010

3HaloODST said:
...however I will say that ANY satellite TV provider will have a slightly longer delay between channel changes, compared to cable. That's just a minor setback of having your TV signal travel 22,000 miles your way.

That is not a correct attribution for channel switching delay. All the channels all the time are streaming down from the satellites. There is nothing preventing the satellite tuner from switching from one stream to another in a small fraction of one second. This is particularly true of simply tuning to a different channel on the same transponder. Changing transponders takes more time, while switching between even and odd transponders more still, with the longest lag being changing satellite orbital locations plus all of the above.

Jim5506

Oct 16, 2010

They are streaming, but they are not being analysed. there is a short lagtime while the receiver assembles enough data to display a picture and the forward/reverse buffers it needs.

This is why there is always a slight delay (~1 second) when changing digital channels and it will always be.

Longer delays may occur when the data stream is weak or corrupted or when the OS is bogging down.

Claude Greiner

Oct 18, 2010

skyviewmark said:
The biggest mental thing to change is the way that you watch TV.. It is not feasible to scroll through the channels.. The Lag will kill you.. Use the Guide to scroll the program list.. Find what you want then make the channel change..

I agree, this guy just needs to change the way he watches TV. I usually put on a channel, go to the guide and scroll until I find something intresting.

The same is true for DISH Network, as it is when I had Comcast Digital, and when I use my Directv system

With any provider that provides digital service, its going to be impossible to channel surf.

Lord_Vader

Oct 18, 2010

stardust3 said:
Using your guide to browse rather than channel surfing will make all the difference for you. Give it a try.

Yes, exactly. I remember 10 years ago when I just "channel surfed" on cable. Using the guide is the best way to "surf" on Dish.

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Gray Hair

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Last reply Yesterday at 11:39 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Repair DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW?

I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?

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deheza

Jul 1, 2013

I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

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Gray Hair

Dec 27, 2013

deheza said:
I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair

. Raine

Dec 28, 2013

If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.

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OZ65

Jan 31, 2024

I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA

Revenerd

Yesterday at 6:15 PM

Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.

(((Garyd)))

Yesterday at 11:39 PM

OZ65 said:
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA

Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO

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Scott Greczkowski

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Yesterday at 11:07 AM

They Call the Wind Maria - Vaughn Monroe

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Maria Magenta - Donovan

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The Agentic Web & When AI Agents Escape Their Sandbox

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garyreno

Last reply Yesterday at 5:12 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Updated to H715 on a Hopper 3 from H713

After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.

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Almighty1

Saturday at 3:03 PM

Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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jsmit86

Yesterday at 9:54 AM

Almighty1 said:
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:12 PM

jsmit86 said:
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.

Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?

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Ramy

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Last reply Yesterday at 4:20 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:11 PM

The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:23 PM

Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue

)

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:28 PM

Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... )

Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:58 PM

Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 4:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.

Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Jimbo said:
Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

It was early. Sure.

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.

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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water

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dishstaller

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Last reply Yesterday at 1:46 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

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telstar_1

Saturday at 2:02 PM

Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv

jayn_j

Yesterday at 10:45 AM

My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.

dishstaller

Yesterday at 12:50 PM

jayn_j said:
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.

Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:56 PM

Dr Pol did not like or use his

telstar_1

Yesterday at 1:46 PM

dishstaller said:
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.

It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.

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