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Product:
Spitfire Elite Digital Universal Single LNBF 0.1dB

Purchased From:
Hypermegasat (Hypermegasat.com, Dish LNBs)

Price Paid:
$17 including shipping

Introduction:
After reading all the positive and negative comments about this product on Satellite Guys as well as on other satellite forums I had to give it a try myself to see how it would compare to my current KU LNBF (Sadoun Standard Single LNBF with a 0.4dB noise figure).

Other Reviews:
DMS Spitfire Elite 0.1dB Universal Ku LNB Review
Real World LNB Showdown: 0.1dB vs 0.3dB (Spitfire Elite Review)

Specifications:
Input Frequency: 10.7-12.75 GHz
Conversion Gain: 58 dB (typical)
Output Frequency: 950-2150 MHz
L.O. Frequency: 9.75/10.6 GHz
Power Consumption: 90 mA
Noise Figure: 0.1 dB
Feed Diameter: 40 mm
Very high cross-polarisation decoupling
High Stability
Cold and heat resistant

Date Tested:
November 6-7 2010

Equipment Used During Testing:
Dish: Channel Master 1.2m (4')
Receiver: Openbox S9 HD PVR FTA Satellite Receiver

Test Results:

AMC 6 (MSNBC) 11704V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 70​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 71​

AMC 9 (TUFF TV) 11734H
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 67​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70​

AMC 3 (English) 11736V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 75​

GALAXY 28 (ABC News Now) 11954V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 72​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 74​

GALAXY 17 (ESPN HD) 12099V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 90 Quality 70​

GALAXY 25 (Azteca 13) 11983V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 67​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 74​

GALAXY C3 (MAC TV) 12049H
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 76​

GALAXY 19 (Kuwait 2) 11788V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 76​

GALAXY 16 (CBS Newspath) 11784V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 58​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 67​

SES 1 (BIO) 12059H
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 76​

AMC 1 (MS20) 11940V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 75​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 76​

SATMEX 6 (DA-A1) 12079H
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 72​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 73​

GALAXY 18 (Daystar) 12134V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 71​

AMC 21 (Telarty PBS) 12096V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 70​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70​

AMC 21 (Montana PBS) DVB-S2 12105V
Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 64​
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70​

AMC 21 (OTEA PBS) DVB-S2 12112V
Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 85​


Product Strengths:
  • Small in size and lightweight
  • Inexpensive ($12-$17) shipped
  • Seemed to lock DVB-S2 signals better

Product Weaknesses:
  • Wish a standard KU LNBF version was available for faster blind scanning

Conclusion: :up
Although sometimes marginal this Spitfire Elite 0.1dB KU LNBF out performed my current Sadoun 0.4dB KU LNBF in every test. I highly recommend this product!

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TRG
TRG
Popcorn, is the Q-signal on Montana PBS stable? I'd consider trying one of these but I need dual outputs.
PopcornNMore
Popcorn, is the Q-signal on Montana PBS stable? I'd consider trying one of these but I need dual outputs.

Yes all signals were very stable during my testing.
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I have to agree the Spitfire Elite is a very good LNB for the price.

I was using a Digiwave DGL-790 LNB since it was the only one I could find locally after a lighting strike took out my old LNB, interestingly the box it came in claimed it had a 0.3dB noise figure and the manufactures website claimed 0.5dB.:confused:

The body of the Spitfire is shorter than my old LNB and I just couldn't get it to perform at all the first time I tried it, I ended up having to drill new holes in the LNB arm and move the whole thing towards the dish, it seemed very critical to position compared to other LNBs.

Once properly install I didn't notice any increase in signal strength but a significant increase in quality. All the AMC 21 PBS signals that weren't already at 100% had a significant increase in quality, like PopcornNMore said the increase was most noticeable with DVB S2 signals, MPB quality increased over 30%.

I'm somewhat skeptical about the claimed 0.1db noise figure but the was a significant improvement in quality on the weaker signals and particularly MPB which exists in a particular noisy RF environment.
If you belief the manufactures claims the Spitfire has better figures for image rejection, phase noise and other characteristics than the Digiwave and maybe this accounts for the improvement.

Whatever the reasons its a good LNB for the price, it would be interesting to see a comparison with some of the other quality LNBs
AmericanZ28
Great review! Now that you have the Spitfire, it would interesting to see what it can do againts WSI's DMX521 .2 LNB. I personally saw as much as a 20% increase versus a SatAv .4 Bullet LNB. Thanks for the great review : )
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Great review! Now that you have the Spitfire, it would interesting to see what it can do againts WSI's DMX521 .2 LNB. I personally saw as much as a 20% increase versus a SatAv .4 Bullet LNB. Thanks for the great review : )
Did a comparison test between the spitfire and a DMX 522 LNB on a 30 in.dish..Satellites used were Galaxy 17,25 and 3c...test was done over 1 week period..in just about all cases,the DMX 522 came out the winner for me..tp's that were weak and pixalating with the spitfire,came in clear with the DMX 522..there you have it..needless to say the DMX is the one for me..
PopcornNMore
Tim Heinrichs CEO of DMS International is sending me 3 JSC321S-2 LNBF's to replace the Spitfire Elite LNBF's that failed during my testing. I will be performing testing on these LNBF's as well and compare results to other LNBFs such as the SL2 Bullet GEOSATpro standard LNBF.


We have always stood behind our products for over 40 years.
I have ask Lance to take care of your LNBFs. He will send out 3 JSC321S-2 LNBFs today and also issue a call tag for the 3 you have there.

Your are welcome to contact me or Lance at any time.

Tim Heinrichs / CEO
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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Howard Simmons
"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
T
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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· posted in TV Shows
I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
S
zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.