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If you haven't noticed, watching video from the internet on your TV is a big tech thing this year. We have seen new innovations from devices like GoogleTV, Roku and VUDU. Each device does something great but yet can't do other functions which another box can do.
A Roku will give you the best Netflix experience but it can't play multimedia files on your network via DLNA.
A Vudu Box will let you watch amazing high quality movies, but it won't let you listen to live radio streams.
A GoogleTV box will let you interface your satellite or cable provider with the internet, but you can't watch online video from ABC. NBC, FOX or CBS.
A WDTV Live box will let me watch my media files including full 1080p HD Bluray rips in ISO format, but it won't let me watch Techzilla or Twit.TV from the internet.
On my desk at home in my bedroom there is a stack of boxes, all of them that do something great, but all of them suck at doing other things.
Up there currently I have a Sony 3D Bluray Player, a WDTV Live Plus box, a VUDU Box, a Logitech Revue GoogleTV box and a Roku.
Now what if you had a box that could do everything all those boxes can do, but in one box? That is the promise of the D-Link Boxee Box. I have wanted one of these boxes since seeing it at CES. And now I have one in my hands.
The Boxee Box is a strange little box that is oddly shaped. Its design prevents you from putting anything on top of it so its going to be on the top of your AV stack no matter what. The Boxee Box comes well packaged in a nice looking box. It was so well packaged it took me a few minutes to figure out how to unpack it.
Inside the Boxee Box …. box is the Boxee Box itself, a external power supply, a HDMI cable, a unique two sided remote and manuals. The Boxee Box requires that your HDTV have a HDMI post. There are no component outputs on the box for older HD sets.
Setup was simple, I plugged in the HDMI to my TV, an Ethernet cable for the internet and I also plugged in an external hard drive loaded with movies I have ripped from my DVD and Bluray collection. Once I powers the box on I was greeted by a bunch of animated boxes. Without even touching anything I got a note that there was a newer version of the Boxee Box software available for my box and it then started downloading it. Next step was to set the Boxee Box to the correct aspect ratio for my TV. Once I was done I was at the main menu.
The first thing I wanted to try was to see if the Boxee Box could play back my ripped DVD's and Blurays. It took me awhile to figure out how to do this because Boxee changed their interface from the Boxee software which is available for the Mac and the PC. I got to be honest I do not like the new interface, however with that said if your new to Boxee you will probably like it since you didn't know how it was setup before. After I figured out how to add my media I needed to wait for the box to scan it all in. While it was scanning I went in and checked the applications.
Many of the Boxee Box applications are good, but not all of them. And not all applications announced are available yet. Missing from the box were HULU PLUS, Netflix and VUDU. (Vudu is there but if you click on it you get a message that it's coming soon.
The apps I didn't like include the Radiotime App which interface seems out of date (when compared to the Radiotime app on GoogleTV. I couldn't figure out how to select radio stations from outside my area. If I wanted to listen to radio stations in my area I would just (gasp) turn on a radio! Another app is called Youtube Leanback, which lets you view videos from Youtube. The problem here is that it plays back Youtube videos full screen and the videos look terrible including the ones that are supposed to be HD. I am guessing that the program is watching the videos in SD but I see no way to force HD videos from Youtube to play in HD by default. Both of these things the Google TV does much better than the Boxee Box.
Another app that had me disappointed was the Twit.TV app, which lets you watch shows from Leo Laporte's Twit Network. While the app is nice it was missing one of the things I wanted most in this app and that is live video streaming from the Twit network.
Other apps ran great and I was impressed with them including the Revision3 app, the Pandora App and the Weather App.
After I went through all the apps my media from my USB drive and my NAS were all scanned in. So I went in to check them out. I was surprised that the Boxee actually figured out what some of my movies were and displayed them with the movie cover art and description. The Boxee Box was able to play every video I threw at it including the Bluray ISO files but the Bluray ISO playback was not perfect and the unit was often rebuffering which made watching them annoying. The WDTV Live Plus has no issue playing these files. I also tried some MKV, AVI and DIVX files and all played fine. What I did find strange though is that on the regular DVD ISO's some would display the DVD menus, while others would not. I don't understand why this is as my WDTV Live Plus unit shows the menus on all the DVD's. Just like the WDTV Live Plus the Boxee Box will not play the menus from Bluray ISO's.
One thing that annoyed me about local video media playback on the Boxee Box was that for every movie I watched subtitles were on by default. While you can go turn off the subtitles in each movie these settings are not saved, so next time you watch the movie you need to go in and turn them off again. Another thing is if you stop a movie from playing and exit from that movie you will lose the place you were in that movie. So when you go back in later you will need to fast forward to the part you left off at.
I should note that the volume level on the movies was VERY low on a lot of the movies through my TV, I found myself cranking the TV almost all the way up to hear them. My only audio in my bedroom is through the TV and in this case the audio is fed to the TV by the HDMI cable. The Boxee Box is sending everything to my TV in Dolby Digital… I hope in the future they build in a function so that the box downconverts the audio into a 2 speaker format. If they did this I believe it would correct the volume issue.
The Boxee Box Main Menu lists TV Show and Moves that are available on the Internet, you can click on a show like Star Trek and be taken to the website to watch Star Trek Shows. The Boxee Box has a built in web browser but I got to be honest I haven't figured out how to use it yet. I can use the D pad on the remote to move the cursor around on the screen, but have not found a way to click on my selection. I have tried the select button in the middle of the D pad and also the enter key on the keyboard to no avail. Watching TV this way stinks as you're watching the show on a tiny box in the middle of the screen. All the sites offer a full screen option to watch their videos and shows but without a way to click on them it's hard. I was so frustrated by this that I posted at the official Boxee forum, where I was told to hook up a USB mouse to the Boxee and then I can click full screen. This can hopefully be fixed with a software upgrade.
The movie selection was mostly public domain movies, I was not impressed at all with the Boxee movie selection
The remote that comes with the Boxee Box is both cool and a pain at the same time. Using the remote is very easy, on the remote side there is only 3 buttons and the D pad. One button is play and pause, on is to go back one step and the final button is in the center of the D pad which is the select button.
The back of the remote is a keyboard which comes in handy at times for things like searching for videos on Youtube.
The remote is not without its flaws though, first of all the keyboard tiny chicklet keys are not backlit, making it impossible to use in a darkened room. And even in a room full of light I had a hard time seeing the writing on the keys. The other flaw is the keys on the front of the remote including the D Pad make a loud clicking noise when you press them. This clicking noise actually got me smacked by my wife who was trying to sleep as I was continuing my evaluation of the Boxee Box.
As I was getting ready to wrap up my testing I figured out where the settings were and found the one setting that may drive many people to get a Boxee Box, and that is the setting for Adult items. By turning this on you have access to a number of adult items including a number of adult applications which were not displayed before. By allowing the adult content to be shown your Boxee then gains apps such as Youporn, Bang Bros and Reality Kings. While the Youporn app worked all the videos except for one would not play. If you turn the adult features on you can password protect them to keep your kids out of them, although I would rather a key combination to hide and unhide the adult content at will, it is a pain to hide them as you need to go into the settings menu each time.
There was only one application I found on the Boxee Box which let you watch live video streaming and this app let you watch live news channels from around the globe. I was hoping for more live streaming, such as Twit.TV, Justin.TV and USTREAM. I would also love to see the Boxee Box be able to handle a webcam for live streaming such as Skype video calls. The Boxee Box is after all a computer so it should be able to handle it.
One thing I have found that the Boxee cannot do is DLNA streaming. But honestly if the box does everything it should do then it really does not need it. The Boxee was able to find all the media on all my networked PC's in my house and my nas.
Overall thoughts.
I was disappointed with the Logitech Revue with GoogleTV when I reviewed it because I felt it was rushed to market just so they could get the product out in time for the holidays. I feel that same about the Boxee Box.
Like the GoogleTV the Boxee Box shipped as an unfinished, unpolished box
While most of it works it is still missing a lot, nowhere in the box is VUDU, HULU Plus or Netflix. Thos features should be available by the end of the year. When that happens I will be able to remove 2 boxes from my stack and because the software is upgradable I hope they can fix the buffering issue for the Bluray ISO's. Once they fix the issues with the box the Boxee Box may indeed be the dream box.
At the moment the Boxee Box is usable but not stable, in my first night of using it the box froze up solid 3 times requiring a reboot.
If I had to pick a box to purchase this holiday season and had to pick between a GoogleTV and a Boxee Box I would go with the Boxee Box. However with that said I think with some TLC and some nice software updates it might be hard to decided which one is best this time next year. As I said before I feel both have been rushed to the market and I feel that on both boxes we are only seeing a shell of what they can really do.
While my dream of having everything is one box is still just a dream the Boxee Box is really close to making that dream come true!
I give the D-Link Boxee Box 2.5 Stars out of 4.
A Roku will give you the best Netflix experience but it can't play multimedia files on your network via DLNA.
A Vudu Box will let you watch amazing high quality movies, but it won't let you listen to live radio streams.
A GoogleTV box will let you interface your satellite or cable provider with the internet, but you can't watch online video from ABC. NBC, FOX or CBS.
A WDTV Live box will let me watch my media files including full 1080p HD Bluray rips in ISO format, but it won't let me watch Techzilla or Twit.TV from the internet.
On my desk at home in my bedroom there is a stack of boxes, all of them that do something great, but all of them suck at doing other things.
Up there currently I have a Sony 3D Bluray Player, a WDTV Live Plus box, a VUDU Box, a Logitech Revue GoogleTV box and a Roku.
Now what if you had a box that could do everything all those boxes can do, but in one box? That is the promise of the D-Link Boxee Box. I have wanted one of these boxes since seeing it at CES. And now I have one in my hands.
The Boxee Box is a strange little box that is oddly shaped. Its design prevents you from putting anything on top of it so its going to be on the top of your AV stack no matter what. The Boxee Box comes well packaged in a nice looking box. It was so well packaged it took me a few minutes to figure out how to unpack it.
Inside the Boxee Box …. box is the Boxee Box itself, a external power supply, a HDMI cable, a unique two sided remote and manuals. The Boxee Box requires that your HDTV have a HDMI post. There are no component outputs on the box for older HD sets.
Setup was simple, I plugged in the HDMI to my TV, an Ethernet cable for the internet and I also plugged in an external hard drive loaded with movies I have ripped from my DVD and Bluray collection. Once I powers the box on I was greeted by a bunch of animated boxes. Without even touching anything I got a note that there was a newer version of the Boxee Box software available for my box and it then started downloading it. Next step was to set the Boxee Box to the correct aspect ratio for my TV. Once I was done I was at the main menu.
The first thing I wanted to try was to see if the Boxee Box could play back my ripped DVD's and Blurays. It took me awhile to figure out how to do this because Boxee changed their interface from the Boxee software which is available for the Mac and the PC. I got to be honest I do not like the new interface, however with that said if your new to Boxee you will probably like it since you didn't know how it was setup before. After I figured out how to add my media I needed to wait for the box to scan it all in. While it was scanning I went in and checked the applications.
Many of the Boxee Box applications are good, but not all of them. And not all applications announced are available yet. Missing from the box were HULU PLUS, Netflix and VUDU. (Vudu is there but if you click on it you get a message that it's coming soon.
The apps I didn't like include the Radiotime App which interface seems out of date (when compared to the Radiotime app on GoogleTV. I couldn't figure out how to select radio stations from outside my area. If I wanted to listen to radio stations in my area I would just (gasp) turn on a radio! Another app is called Youtube Leanback, which lets you view videos from Youtube. The problem here is that it plays back Youtube videos full screen and the videos look terrible including the ones that are supposed to be HD. I am guessing that the program is watching the videos in SD but I see no way to force HD videos from Youtube to play in HD by default. Both of these things the Google TV does much better than the Boxee Box.
Another app that had me disappointed was the Twit.TV app, which lets you watch shows from Leo Laporte's Twit Network. While the app is nice it was missing one of the things I wanted most in this app and that is live video streaming from the Twit network.
Other apps ran great and I was impressed with them including the Revision3 app, the Pandora App and the Weather App.
After I went through all the apps my media from my USB drive and my NAS were all scanned in. So I went in to check them out. I was surprised that the Boxee actually figured out what some of my movies were and displayed them with the movie cover art and description. The Boxee Box was able to play every video I threw at it including the Bluray ISO files but the Bluray ISO playback was not perfect and the unit was often rebuffering which made watching them annoying. The WDTV Live Plus has no issue playing these files. I also tried some MKV, AVI and DIVX files and all played fine. What I did find strange though is that on the regular DVD ISO's some would display the DVD menus, while others would not. I don't understand why this is as my WDTV Live Plus unit shows the menus on all the DVD's. Just like the WDTV Live Plus the Boxee Box will not play the menus from Bluray ISO's.
One thing that annoyed me about local video media playback on the Boxee Box was that for every movie I watched subtitles were on by default. While you can go turn off the subtitles in each movie these settings are not saved, so next time you watch the movie you need to go in and turn them off again. Another thing is if you stop a movie from playing and exit from that movie you will lose the place you were in that movie. So when you go back in later you will need to fast forward to the part you left off at.
I should note that the volume level on the movies was VERY low on a lot of the movies through my TV, I found myself cranking the TV almost all the way up to hear them. My only audio in my bedroom is through the TV and in this case the audio is fed to the TV by the HDMI cable. The Boxee Box is sending everything to my TV in Dolby Digital… I hope in the future they build in a function so that the box downconverts the audio into a 2 speaker format. If they did this I believe it would correct the volume issue.
The Boxee Box Main Menu lists TV Show and Moves that are available on the Internet, you can click on a show like Star Trek and be taken to the website to watch Star Trek Shows. The Boxee Box has a built in web browser but I got to be honest I haven't figured out how to use it yet. I can use the D pad on the remote to move the cursor around on the screen, but have not found a way to click on my selection. I have tried the select button in the middle of the D pad and also the enter key on the keyboard to no avail. Watching TV this way stinks as you're watching the show on a tiny box in the middle of the screen. All the sites offer a full screen option to watch their videos and shows but without a way to click on them it's hard. I was so frustrated by this that I posted at the official Boxee forum, where I was told to hook up a USB mouse to the Boxee and then I can click full screen. This can hopefully be fixed with a software upgrade.
The movie selection was mostly public domain movies, I was not impressed at all with the Boxee movie selection
The remote that comes with the Boxee Box is both cool and a pain at the same time. Using the remote is very easy, on the remote side there is only 3 buttons and the D pad. One button is play and pause, on is to go back one step and the final button is in the center of the D pad which is the select button.
The back of the remote is a keyboard which comes in handy at times for things like searching for videos on Youtube.
The remote is not without its flaws though, first of all the keyboard tiny chicklet keys are not backlit, making it impossible to use in a darkened room. And even in a room full of light I had a hard time seeing the writing on the keys. The other flaw is the keys on the front of the remote including the D Pad make a loud clicking noise when you press them. This clicking noise actually got me smacked by my wife who was trying to sleep as I was continuing my evaluation of the Boxee Box.
As I was getting ready to wrap up my testing I figured out where the settings were and found the one setting that may drive many people to get a Boxee Box, and that is the setting for Adult items. By turning this on you have access to a number of adult items including a number of adult applications which were not displayed before. By allowing the adult content to be shown your Boxee then gains apps such as Youporn, Bang Bros and Reality Kings. While the Youporn app worked all the videos except for one would not play. If you turn the adult features on you can password protect them to keep your kids out of them, although I would rather a key combination to hide and unhide the adult content at will, it is a pain to hide them as you need to go into the settings menu each time.
There was only one application I found on the Boxee Box which let you watch live video streaming and this app let you watch live news channels from around the globe. I was hoping for more live streaming, such as Twit.TV, Justin.TV and USTREAM. I would also love to see the Boxee Box be able to handle a webcam for live streaming such as Skype video calls. The Boxee Box is after all a computer so it should be able to handle it.
One thing I have found that the Boxee cannot do is DLNA streaming. But honestly if the box does everything it should do then it really does not need it. The Boxee was able to find all the media on all my networked PC's in my house and my nas.
Overall thoughts.
I was disappointed with the Logitech Revue with GoogleTV when I reviewed it because I felt it was rushed to market just so they could get the product out in time for the holidays. I feel that same about the Boxee Box.
Like the GoogleTV the Boxee Box shipped as an unfinished, unpolished box
While most of it works it is still missing a lot, nowhere in the box is VUDU, HULU Plus or Netflix. Thos features should be available by the end of the year. When that happens I will be able to remove 2 boxes from my stack and because the software is upgradable I hope they can fix the buffering issue for the Bluray ISO's. Once they fix the issues with the box the Boxee Box may indeed be the dream box.
At the moment the Boxee Box is usable but not stable, in my first night of using it the box froze up solid 3 times requiring a reboot.
If I had to pick a box to purchase this holiday season and had to pick between a GoogleTV and a Boxee Box I would go with the Boxee Box. However with that said I think with some TLC and some nice software updates it might be hard to decided which one is best this time next year. As I said before I feel both have been rushed to the market and I feel that on both boxes we are only seeing a shell of what they can really do.
While my dream of having everything is one box is still just a dream the Boxee Box is really close to making that dream come true!
I give the D-Link Boxee Box 2.5 Stars out of 4.
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Our DNS provider is encouraging us to enable DNSSEC on our domains for added security.
I have gone ahead and enabled it, and am told it may take anywhere from 90 minutes to 24 hours for it to take effect.
Hopefully doing this does not harm the site in any way. (It shouldn't) but if it does, you will then know why and I will revert the settings.
But from what I am reading it should be ok. so just giving a warning as I have screwed up DNS stuff in the past.
I have gone ahead and enabled it, and am told it may take anywhere from 90 minutes to 24 hours for it to take effect.
Hopefully doing this does not harm the site in any way. (It shouldn't) but if it does, you will then know why and I will revert the settings.
But from what I am reading it should be ok. so just giving a warning as I have screwed up DNS stuff in the past.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erpXkKWLg54
Direct YouTube Link - I Went Wardriving for Meshtastic and Meshcoree Nodes!
Ham Radio 2.0 Website
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Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.
For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)
Thanks for your understanding.
For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)
Thanks for your understanding.
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Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.
A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. Please give the PWA a try.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.
Please give the PWA a try.
I just installed the PWA on my Android phone. It was pretty easy to do, and now I'm posting this from my phone. Thanks, Scott!A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
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So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Cutting Edge
As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!
As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.
I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)
Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.
www.satelliteguys.us
Thank you in advance.
As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.
I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)
Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.
SatelliteGuys Maintenance Fund Raiser
www.satelliteguys.us
Thank you in advance.
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Tapatalk has been removed.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
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TFLEV
Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7CB6m89_RY
Direct YouTube Link - How the Heck Do You Tell the NEW 2027 Rivian R2 from the R1? I Compare Both Side-By-Side!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7CB6m89_RY
Direct YouTube Link - How the Heck Do You Tell the NEW 2027 Rivian R2 from the R1? I Compare Both Side-By-Side!
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Lifetime Supporter
I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
Supporting Founder
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Looking for a manual. Want to do some radio astronomy with it. Realize it's old but, since it's not for tv use don't need any decoders, just the RF section.
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