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AcWxRadar
Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
For anyone who is daring to experiment, here is (an almost) totally blank slate for you to work with. I say "almost totally blank" as I could not delete everything - every channel - without the AZBox rejecting this. The AZBox does not like it when you delete or try to delete everything. It does not like empty files or folders.

So, what I did is compile a (hopefully) complete list of satellites from 30.0°W all the way west to 138.9°W with both C and Ku bands included. There are NO channels on any satellite except for the two Cubavision channels on 30.0°W TP 11884 V. These I left because of the AZBox's OS requirements.

I have set every satellite up to utilize USALS motor poistioning and I have entered ONE transponder on each satellite. 3700 MHz horizontal for the C-band satellites and 11700 MHz horizontal for the linear Ku band satellites and 12200 MHz for the LEFT polarized circular Ku band. The latter shows up as H or horizontal in the menu scheme since it is converted from circular to linear polarization.

If you desire to clean your AZBox of the eastern satellites, you may use this list to load into your AZBox. This list covers the satellite arc for a LOS in the midwest.

Hispasat @ 30.0°W is as far as I can go to the east from my location so that is where I stopped on the Atlantic side. The furthest I can go west is 162.0°, but there are no satellites listed beyond AMC-8 @ 138.9°W. I stopped at these two east and west sats as there is no point for me to generate a list more expansive than this for my own personal system. I may create other "blank" lists for the whole N.A. region in the future (i.e. east coast, midwest, west, pacific etc.). Due to the time involved, I have opted to stop short of that objective for this specific project.

This list will have the USALS site coordinates set to my own location, so you will have to change these to your own. I also have no switch parameters set, no switches are selected here, so if you are using some switch matrix with your system, you will have to set these up to accomodate your system configuration.

Back up your current *.dat files and save them on a disk where they can be retreived for restoration later if required. Install these *.dat files and blind scan each satellite that you desire for updated TPs and channels.

You won't be able to blind scan with some AZBox receivers, I know. For these receivers you will have to enter your TPs manually and then scan them.

Since I am able to blind scan with my Premium Plus AZBox, I will do so and post that list at a later time so that you don't have to type so much. I can only supply the linear Ku band list, however. I cannot scan for C-Band channels without a BUD and the circular stuff like DN and Bell Express is up to you to figure out. Most FTA'ers don't require the latter anyway.

You should use these files at your own risk. I have made every effort to be certain that they are clean of any virus or violations, but there is always the unexpected and this is not for the amateur. If you screw something up, please don't put the blame on me! LOL :) I do test everything I do multiple times prior to posting the information so I am confident to supply you with this information. If anything does go awry, it is your baby.

RADAR
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How I wish I had such a list when I bought mine!. This is indeed a valuable file for the AZbox first timer. Thanks for posting it. I remember all the time I spent deleting and creating new sats and then blind scanning!.

One thing Though , unlike Stargaze I do not think you really need the use of other software to completely fix your sat list and create your full channel list although if you like it that way then it might be better for you. Besides it makes it easier and simpler for the first timer to just use the remote and this sat list provided by Radar. I am yet to use any other software and I am just trying to make it simpler for begginers, then for more complex tasks and for instance to fix some PVR timer recording issues as suggested by others you could start using these other useful softwares on your PC.
AcWxRadar
How I wish I had such a list when I bought mine!. This is indeed a valuable file for the AZbox first timer. Thanks for posting it. I remember all the time I spent deleting and creating new sats and then blind scanning!.

One thing Though , unlike Stargaze I do not think you really need the use of other software to completely fix your sat list and create your full channel list although if you like it that way then it might be better for you. Besides it makes it easier and simpler for the first timer to just use the remote and this sat list provided by Radar. I am yet to use any other software and I am just trying to make it simpler for begginers, then for more complex tasks and for instance to fix some PVR timer recording issues as suggested by others you could start using these other useful softwares on your PC.

This is where you are incorrect in your assumption that the receiver will not revert back to the old list.
If the New list is not put into the backup directory you will still have a corrupt list in the azbox in the backup directory.
The whole process that Radar & I have done and talked about for hours on end was to see if there would be an easier way.
Using the remote only changes what is in your working directory. Then when you have a problem the receiver will go back to the back up one which is no good.
For those who don't or can not use an editor program they will have a rough time of it.
Each one of us has a system that is slightly different then others. Sure someone can use my list or Radars list but sooner or later they will want their own list that suits their own needs. Not everyone is using their azboxes to move their dishes, for those who do then this is a great start for them. But, if they want it to remain in their azbox as their starting point from here on out then the ACC program is the easiest way to make this a certainty. Not everyone who uses an azbox is handy at computer language, those who understand computers have another way to do this, the others who do not need to rely on other programs to perform these tasks.

HD Fan,

What Stargaze has stated is extremely important. You must use the ACC program to reload a corrected list to your AZBox in order to open the "read only" back-up file and be able to write to it temporarily. Then the ACC program closes the backup file and makes it read only again. If this important piece is missed, then the AZBox will (in specific events) revert to the original list in the backup file which would be corrupted and then you would have to start over from scratch once again.

There are other avenues that can be used to accomplish this task, but so far they are all manual procedures and require you to learn some of the Linux and TelNet codes. ACC does this all for you automatically.

One very nice advantage to using our lists (Stargaze's or mine) is that you don't have to use the remote for anything but scanning in the transponders or channels on the satellites that you want. You only need to send or upload these lists to your AZBox using ACC and all of the satellites and basic TP structure is there for you. The original factory list is superceded by this action and deleted (overwritten) automatically. Therefore, you don't have to wade through the process of deleting all the satellites in the factory list with the remote. That step was accomplished in the procedure that we followed to create our homemade lists.

My list here is just a start of better things to come. You will be limited to what is contained in this list unless you add or delete sats and TPs yourself. But, it does get you started and saves some time, a lot of time.

RADAR

PS Because FTA changes so much, old satellites being decommisioned or moved, new satellites being launched, feed channels coming and going etc. There is just no way for any list to be perfect for much more than a short time. Maybe a few hours at most (when you consider the wild feeds). So, you understand that we know that these lists are only temporary. The main point was to dispose of the original corrupted factory list and provide a basic skeleton structure to work from. Maintaining and keeping your new list up to date is everyone's personal responsibility. That's the part that is the hobby.
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oh! I was not aware of the backup list in the receiver somehow restoring itself once again and therefore going back to square one. Thanks for the tip , time to telnet the machine and change the read only status of the file if i remember the few unix commands i learndt so many years ago. I have not acctually played much with the machine since I finally scanned everything because my mother who is visiting me is using it for its c band spanish channels fix.
AcWxRadar
oh! I was not aware of the backup list in the receiver somehow restoring itself once again and therefore going back to square one. Thanks for the tip.

Yes, this was the hindrance for all users from the start.

Until it was learned that this "back-up file" existed and was "read only", the original factory list information kept popping back into our lists. Using ACC to make this area temporarily Re-Writable allows us to put our own list in there and dispose of the corrupt information (which was one satellite that had zero TPs in its list). Remember that the AZBox doesn't like empty files or folders, so a satellite list with no transponders listed is bad news. You can create new directories and folders which are blank and add files to it later, but I guess you don't want to take a permanent folder and delete all of its contents. Somehow, this lone sat with no TPs listed escaped the programmers eyes and caused some really odd behavior, unexpected behavior when working with and editing the satellite list.

The folks in Europe are starting to realize this, too and they should have been the first to know. They have had this box in use much longer than we have. But, they are not applying it the same manner that we are. Most of the satellites that they pull in were already in the list and so they had no reason to edit the list and therefore never experienced the troubles that we found right off. Oh, they probably did, at times. But, likely passed it off as some problem with the firmware.

RADAR
goaliebob99
Can we please stickey this, this is some good stuff! :) :Two Thumbs UP!
AcWxRadar
Can we please stickey this, this is some good stuff! :) :Two Thumbs UP!

Thanks for the vote of confidence on this thread, Goalie... However, this one isn't ready for anything like a sticky. This is a work in progress.

I know that there is a good deal of work put forth here and a lot of good info, but there is more to come, so just earmark this post for now, and be sure to check out the latest revision of the sticky for the AZBox manual (the A-Z guide). We will be putting all the best stuff in there, eventually. It will become a living document (meaning that all updates and changes will eventually be included in one source). Stargaze is doing a bang up job with this already and it can only progress into something better each day.

Please, consult the stickies and the AZBox A-Z guide for most everything. Recent or new issues will be discussed along the way and posted here first for discussion and crituque until they are proven successful and then they will be added to the A-Z Guide for posterity. Download the guide and peruse it at your leisure, then ask questions to clarify or expound upon the information in the guide if necessary. You should not have to ask too many Q's if we write the guide well, and we are doing our best at that for you! Ain't that right StarGaze! :)

So, please help us write the guide perfectly for all future AZBox owners.

Discussions are necessary to ensure the accuracy of the guide, so we welcome everyone to join in and ask questions and provide personal experience responses. If they are proven accurate and repeatable they will be included in the guide. Eventually, we will have compiled a really awesome guide. We are doing great so far, so let's keep it up!

Thanks (to everyone)!

Sincerely,

RADAR, and from myself on behalf of Stargaze... We thank you!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
comfortably_numb
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


View: https://youtu.be/_DhEEo5S9fg
Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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Foxbat
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
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Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
I just bought a Ram 1500 truck with a 3 month free trial. What to do when it ends?

All I want is music and news, but it is listed for $11.99 + $5.00 more for news. But $16.99 per month isn't worth it to me.
comfortably_numb
What to do when it ends?

Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
harshness
Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
Jimbo
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
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Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Jimbo
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
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yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
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Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bday ;).
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.