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Eagles' Vick calls dog ownership a 'big step' in rehabilitation
Associated Press
Published: Dec. 16, 2010 at 09:39 a.m. Updated: Dec. 16, 2010 at 10:51 a.m.
PHILADELPHIA -- Convicted dogfighting-ring operator Michael Vick hopes to own a dog again someday.

The Philadelphia Eagles quarterback told TheGrio.com in a video interview posted this week that he genuinely cares for animals and one day hopes to have a dog as a household pet, saying it would be just another "big step" in his rehabilitation process.


"I would love to get another dog in the future," Vick told the website. "I think it would be a big step for me in the rehabilitation process. I think just to have a pet in my household and to show people that I genuinely care, and my love, and my passion for animals."

Vick served 18 months in prison after being convicted in 2007 in the Virginia-based ring. The federal judge overseeing the case also prohibited him from ever owning another dog.

"Vick should be banned from owning dogs for life," Jane Dollinger, spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, said in a news release this week. "Just as convicted pedophiles aren't allowed free access to children, anyone who is responsible for hanging, electrocuting, or shooting dogs and who causes them to suffer in other unimaginable ways should never again be allowed access to dogs."

Since his release from prison, Vick has become an advocate for the Humane Society of the United States and makes school appearances to talk to students about his past. Vick said he's doing that work because he wants to.

"Well, first off, the court doesn't make it an obligation for me to go out and speak," Vick said. "It doesn't make it an obligation for me to work with the Humane Society. I'm putting in the hard work to do it so it's not for any personal benefit, it's to help others."

Vick's on-the-field success this season has made his story more compelling -- from star quarterback to reviled dogfighter to comeback kid. And now he's adding mentor to his resume.


"I think if I can help five or six kids daily, then I'm playing my position as a positive role model in our society," Vick told TheGrio. "I tell a lot of people that it's easy to do the wrong thing. It's hard to do the right thing."

Vick said he allowed outside influences to affect his behavior, but said prison helped him see the changes he needed to make.

"I hate to use our culture as an excuse, but it is what it is and that's what happened and that's the way I thought about it growing up," Vick said about dogfighting. "This is just the way we were brought up."

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press

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I think Vick is pushing it a little too far here. Hoping to cash in on his popularity now, I suppose.... :rolleyes:
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Steve Mehs
This is all so idiotic. I'm not a big Vick fan, but I'm looking at the bigger picture. People will protest Vick until to the day he dies about this nonsense, but how many athletes, movie stars, politicians and regular ole Joes get off with less after murdering another HUMAN. A couple years ago Marshawn Lynch was involved in a hit and run involving another HUMAN, and there were no protests. I'm not saying go out and beat animals here, but comes on, let's focus on crimes against humans first after we get that squared away, we can focus on dogs and cats and hamsters and earthworms, but until then any crime against another human is about a million more times serious then the most brutal crime against any animal.

I still can't believe Vick did time for this in a country when you can plead a murder case down to a parking ticket. This whole situation shows just how F'd up the justice system in the country is and how warped peoples mindsets are that they value the life of some animal over that of another human being. I'm hoping for the Eagles to win the Super Bowl and have Vick smiling and he holds the Lombardi Trophy to give the ultimate middle finger to all those that are 'outraged'.
Jimbo
This is all so idiotic. I'm not a big Vick fan, but I'm looking at the bigger picture. People will protest Vick until to the day he dies about this nonsense, but how many athletes, movie stars, politicians and regular ole Joes get off with less after murdering another HUMAN. A couple years ago Marshawn Lynch was involved in a hit and run involving another HUMAN, and there were no protests. I'm not saying go out and beat animals here, but comes on, let's focus on crimes against humans first after we get that squared away, we can focus on dogs and cats and hamsters and earthworms, but until then any crime against another human is about a million more times serious then the most brutal crime against any animal.

I still can't believe Vick did time for this in a country when you can plead a murder case down to a parking ticket. This whole situation shows just how F'd up the justice system in the country is and how warped peoples mindsets are that they value the life of some animal over that of another human being. I'm hoping for the Eagles to win the Super Bowl and have Vick smiling and he holds the Lombardi Trophy to give the ultimate middle finger to all those that are 'outraged'.

"Some Animal" ?
It wasn't ONE DOG, it was a bunch of them that were raised this way ... He ELECTROCUTED dogs for the fun of it.
It was hundreds of dogs that were taken down, WHY, because they were not TOUGH enough.

However, I do agree with you about the Human life being much more valuable, it's too bad we have a large part of society that doesn't seem to care about HUMAN life and we hear every night on the news about how many people got shot or killed over the stupidest things.
Steve Mehs
"Some Animal" ?
It wasn't ONE DOG, it was a bunch of them that were raised this way ... He ELECTROCUTED dogs for the fun of it.
It was hundreds of dogs that were taken down, WHY, because they were not TOUGH enough.

Yes, 'some animal'

Replace the word 'dogs' with 'humans' and you'll describe gangs that you'll find terrorizing, recruiting and destroying cities all across the nation. No animal life is worth more than a human life, period, case closed.
Ronnie-


Yes, 'some animal'

Replace the word 'dogs' with 'humans' and you'll describe gangs that you'll find terrorizing, recruiting and destroying cities all across the nation. No animal life is worth more than a human life, period, case closed.

Of course not, but it does not justify or lessen what he did.
salsadancer7
Of course not, but it does not justify or lessen what he did.

You everyone anti-Vick seems to think some of do....that is not the case. Not the case at all. But because we are not ripping him like others, I guess that means we AGREE with what he did?:(:confused:
Ronnie-
You everyone anti-Vick seems to think some of do....that is not the case. Not the case at all. But because we are not ripping him like others, I guess that means we AGREE with what he did?:(:confused:

Where did I say that?

I was replying to the post that said no animal life is worth more than a human life. Well, no kidding. I doubt you will find anyone that will disagree with that point. And that being said, it doesnt lessen the crime that was done to the dogs in his "care".

Im not particularly ripping Vick either, but I also think it might not be the best idea to let the man have another dog based on his past actions. As far as anything else he does (football, ect), I wish him the best of luck. Perhaps he can make something good come after he learned his lesson.
dvrexpander
This is all so idiotic. I'm not a big Vick fan, but I'm looking at the bigger picture. People will protest Vick until to the day he dies about this nonsense, but how many athletes, movie stars, politicians and regular ole Joes get off with less after murdering another HUMAN. A couple years ago Marshawn Lynch was involved in a hit and run involving another HUMAN, and there were no protests. I'm not saying go out and beat animals here, but comes on, let's focus on crimes against humans first after we get that squared away, we can focus on dogs and cats and hamsters and earthworms, but until then any crime against another human is about a million more times serious then the most brutal crime against any animal.

I still can't believe Vick did time for this in a country when you can plead a murder case down to a parking ticket. This whole situation shows just how F'd up the justice system in the country is and how warped peoples mindsets are that they value the life of some animal over that of another human being. I'm hoping for the Eagles to win the Super Bowl and have Vick smiling and he holds the Lombardi Trophy to give the ultimate middle finger to all those that are 'outraged'.

This was a good post... I agree that he's done his time, paid for his mistakes and if he wants to get a dog and the court will allow it then by all means why not. We can't compare him to humans but what we can compare this too is getting a house dog vs getting a fighting dog. This is not like him having a pomeranian running around his house then one day he has friends come over to beat it into fighting. Nope, this is about certain dogs that are no good but for fighting. I believe it's time to outlaw ban these types of dogs from ownership in the US.

But at the end of the day there are far worse crimes and criminals to go after and take care of than worry about what he did in the past that has now been paid for already.
salsadancer7
Where did I say that?

I was replying to the post that said no animal life is worth more than a human life. Well, no kidding. I doubt you will find anyone that will disagree with that point. And that being said, it doesnt lessen the crime that was done to the dogs in his "care".

Im not particularly ripping Vick either, but I also think it might not be the best idea to let the man have another dog based on his past actions. As far as anything else he does (football, ect), I wish him the best of luck. Perhaps he can make something good come after he learned his lesson.


No, didn't not say you did. But the insinuations are there. IF you support Vick, you must not think what he did was no big deal..... LOL! I have no issues with him owning a dog because like I said, NO ONE will be watched more than closely, 24 hours a day...than Vick.
S
No, didn't not say you did. But the insinuations are there. IF you support Vick, you must not think what he did was no big deal..... LOL! I have no issues with him owning a dog because like I said, NO ONE will be watched more than closely, 24 hours a day...than Vick.

Yes, I'm sure someone from the ASPCA will come and live with Vick 24 hours a day. Another PRICELESS gem. :rolleyes:


Sandra
salsadancer7
Yes, I'm sure someone from the ASPCA will come and live with Vick 24 hours a day. Another PRICELESS gem. :rolleyes:


Sandra

No....but every single move he makes with a animal living in his home will be viewed BY the PETA freaks....

whether it's priceless or not....:p;)
S
No....but every single move he makes with a animal living in his home will be viewed BY the PETA freaks....

whether it's priceless or not....:p;)

LOL like PETA would have 24/7 access to Vick's house. NOT!!! :rolleyes:


Sandra
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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meStevo
Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
comfortably_numb
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


View: https://youtu.be/_DhEEo5S9fg
Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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TRG
Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Foxbat
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
osu1991
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
R
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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Foxbat
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
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N6BY
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
I just bought a Ram 1500 truck with a 3 month free trial. What to do when it ends?

All I want is music and news, but it is listed for $11.99 + $5.00 more for news. But $16.99 per month isn't worth it to me.
comfortably_numb
What to do when it ends?

Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
harshness
Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
Jimbo
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
S
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Jimbo
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
B
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
TRG
TRG
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
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Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
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Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
S
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bday ;).
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.