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First, some background:
I'm currently a DirecTV customer and have been for something like 14 years. In this past year my 6+ year old DirecTivo (R10) has been acting up and I started shopping around for a replacement. Since DirecTV doesn't seem to want to give me any sort of a package to keep me (although they would if I was a new customer, grr), I started looking at other companies. Dish seemed to give me everything I needed and more than I'm getting now for less than DirecTV, so I started trying to switch over to them.
The problem:
I'm in the Springfield(MA) DMA (zip 01007). For whatever reason, our Fox & ABC are not available on Dish. I don't mean they're not available in HD, I mean they're straight up not on Dish (although I'm getting Fox & ABC on DirecTV). I've been trying to call Dish every few months, as well as lurking in the forums here, to try and get an idea when they may become available. Obviously, the inability to get Fox and ABC is very much of a deal-killer for me.
The weirdness:
Today, after my Tivo rebooted again for no good reason, I called Dish again. The salesman on the phone was stunned to learn that there was somewhere that the locals weren't all available, did some digging, put me on hold, and came back on to tell me he was able to sign me up for ABC & Fox from NYC. I was, to say the least, somewhat surprised, since I [though I] knew that Dish didn't do the distant network thing themselves. He was insistent, though, that if I got the superstation package he'd be able to put the ABC & Fox in as well. I let him sign me up, scheduled an install, and hung up. A little later, still feeling pretty weird about it, I called back, got another guy, had him look over what I signed up for, and discovered, as I suspected, that ABC & Fox weren't, in fact, on the list of what I'd be getting. I canceled my order.
Request for advice:
Now what? I'm looking for, what I have to believe, is something fairly simple. The major over-the-air networks (Fox/ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS). A DVR with 2 rooms attached to it. HD on the main line stations (locals would be nice but not necessary). A moderate slate of the major "basic cable" channels (of the NickJR, ESPN, Discovery, NFL network type). I'd like to spend no more than I'm currently spending for basically that (minus the HD & with the DVR only in one room).
I would consider getting an external antenna and hooking it into the system to get those two channels, but I have no idea what kind of reception I get here (I've never used an over-the-air antenna here and I get lousy reception on radio & cell phone here as I'm nestled behind a small mountain, so it's probably pretty iffy) and I have no idea how well antennas play with DVRs in terms of being able to record off them.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I might try next? I find it hard to believe there's no way in this entire DMA to get Fox and ABC; wouldn't that be as much of a deal killer for everyone else as it is for me? As I said, I've spent some time lurking in the forums so I see other people have complained about similar things, but I haven't seen any good resolution. Is there one?
I'd welcome and appreciate any input on this issue. Thanks!
I'm currently a DirecTV customer and have been for something like 14 years. In this past year my 6+ year old DirecTivo (R10) has been acting up and I started shopping around for a replacement. Since DirecTV doesn't seem to want to give me any sort of a package to keep me (although they would if I was a new customer, grr), I started looking at other companies. Dish seemed to give me everything I needed and more than I'm getting now for less than DirecTV, so I started trying to switch over to them.
The problem:
I'm in the Springfield(MA) DMA (zip 01007). For whatever reason, our Fox & ABC are not available on Dish. I don't mean they're not available in HD, I mean they're straight up not on Dish (although I'm getting Fox & ABC on DirecTV). I've been trying to call Dish every few months, as well as lurking in the forums here, to try and get an idea when they may become available. Obviously, the inability to get Fox and ABC is very much of a deal-killer for me.
The weirdness:
Today, after my Tivo rebooted again for no good reason, I called Dish again. The salesman on the phone was stunned to learn that there was somewhere that the locals weren't all available, did some digging, put me on hold, and came back on to tell me he was able to sign me up for ABC & Fox from NYC. I was, to say the least, somewhat surprised, since I [though I] knew that Dish didn't do the distant network thing themselves. He was insistent, though, that if I got the superstation package he'd be able to put the ABC & Fox in as well. I let him sign me up, scheduled an install, and hung up. A little later, still feeling pretty weird about it, I called back, got another guy, had him look over what I signed up for, and discovered, as I suspected, that ABC & Fox weren't, in fact, on the list of what I'd be getting. I canceled my order.
Request for advice:
Now what? I'm looking for, what I have to believe, is something fairly simple. The major over-the-air networks (Fox/ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS). A DVR with 2 rooms attached to it. HD on the main line stations (locals would be nice but not necessary). A moderate slate of the major "basic cable" channels (of the NickJR, ESPN, Discovery, NFL network type). I'd like to spend no more than I'm currently spending for basically that (minus the HD & with the DVR only in one room).
I would consider getting an external antenna and hooking it into the system to get those two channels, but I have no idea what kind of reception I get here (I've never used an over-the-air antenna here and I get lousy reception on radio & cell phone here as I'm nestled behind a small mountain, so it's probably pretty iffy) and I have no idea how well antennas play with DVRs in terms of being able to record off them.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I might try next? I find it hard to believe there's no way in this entire DMA to get Fox and ABC; wouldn't that be as much of a deal killer for everyone else as it is for me? As I said, I've spent some time lurking in the forums so I see other people have complained about similar things, but I haven't seen any good resolution. Is there one?
I'd welcome and appreciate any input on this issue. Thanks!
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Thanks for all the suggestions and advice. It's greatly appreciated. I've gone ahead and spoken to retention at Directv and am considering their counter offer, but I'm still somewhat on the fence. The OTA is still a viable option, but since I've never had an antenna up here and my reception for *everything* is so bad, I'm concerned I'll commit, get the antenna up and find my reception is unusable. Decisions, decisions...
The "moving" idea is one I'm just not comfortable with. For one thing, I'd still like to get at least some local channels for weather, local news & school closings. But at least as importantly, I'm not happy about the idea of having to use fraud to get something that, IMO, should be available to me honestly. To be blunt about it, if Dish is unable to get me what is a reasonable request for a television providing company, why should I lie on their behalf?
I'll keep you guys updated on the egotistical assumption that anyone cares what I do.
Right now I'm leaning back to staying with Directv. They've got me a decent deal, but I'd still like to get it so I don't need to pay for the wiring for the whole home dvr (which would be "free" to a new customer). We'll see...
The "moving" idea is one I'm just not comfortable with. For one thing, I'd still like to get at least some local channels for weather, local news & school closings. But at least as importantly, I'm not happy about the idea of having to use fraud to get something that, IMO, should be available to me honestly. To be blunt about it, if Dish is unable to get me what is a reasonable request for a television providing company, why should I lie on their behalf?
I'll keep you guys updated on the egotistical assumption that anyone cares what I do.
Right now I'm leaning back to staying with Directv. They've got me a decent deal, but I'd still like to get it so I don't need to pay for the wiring for the whole home dvr (which would be "free" to a new customer). We'll see...
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On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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"Jackson Lamb for Prime Minister! "A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Much better than the critics would want you to believe. Only problem, the last guy was pretty obvious a couple of episodes in.
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Amazon Sets 'The Lord of the Rings' TV Series In Mega Deal With Multi-Season Commitment
$250 Million just for the rights to make something
The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.
Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring.
$250 Million just for the rights to make something
The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.
Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
arstechnica.com
PHP warns it plans to release 2 emergency patches imminently
Unconfirmed report claims PHP2Shell exploit remotely executes code on PHP sites.
arstechnica.com
Yup thats what xenforo is written in, php.
But all patched now.
But all patched now.
More specifically, these:
A more scholarly story is here:
www.bleepingcomputer.com
A more scholarly story is here:
PHP warns admins of two critical flaws, emergency patches coming tomorrow
The PHP security team is warning administrators to prepare for emergency security updates tomorrow to address two critical vulnerabilities, as information about the flaws has reportedly leaked ahead of their scheduled disclosure.
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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