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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
We are new to FTA. After lurking here for over 6 months, I twisted my husband's arm this week to take me across town to get a Glorystar dish with a Visionsat IV 200 PVR receiver on craigslist. We currently have good reception with the standard assortment of over the air UHF digital channels but I've been dying to see what else we could get with satellite.

Despite following the directions in the wonderful Glorystar Installation Guide and using both the Dishpointer AR iphone app and printouts from the GeostatFinder website, we get nothing.

I've attached several photos of our dish set up hoping something obvious might leap out that we are doing wrong.

We are trying to hit 97W Gal 19 with LNBF #1. For our location, it requires:
LNBF rotation of -21.82
Compass Reading 129.10 degrees
Dish Elevation of 30.3 degrees

The first two we are pretty comfortable we're doing correctly.

The Dish Elevation however, has us baffled. My husband doubled checked the plumb leveling of the vertical post as well as laying the dish on a flat surface to make sure it wasn't bowed. Yet when we tilt the elevation guide to the 30 degree mark, the dish itself is looking straight across the street at our neighbor's house with at most a few degrees tilt.

Does this particular Glorystar dish have a large offset angle and despite its appearance, we really are pointing the dish at a 30.3 degree elevation? It is slightly oval in shape and a little over 36 inches long.

I have great LOS over the neighbor's house across the street so I know that isn't our problem.

My husband entered the standard LBNF setting into the receiver (I believe it was 10750 but I'll have to double check). The previous owner's satellite info for 97 west is still installed. We tried several blind scans, making small adjustment to the dish's azimuth and elevation with no luck. We could get a signal strength of 80-85 but 0 signal quality. Blind scans repeatedly showed 0 channels found.

The receiver and all its settings is pretty Greek to us at the moment. We could easily be missing something here. I was able to find this info on one of the menu screens:

Model IV 200
H/W Ver S1000 1.00
Driver API 1.0
Application Norw v 1.15
Data Version FDU v 1.1

Any suggestions on where we should begin troubleshooting are greatly appreciated. The Glorystar manual assumes we have a receiver other than the Visionsat that came with this setup. We do have the Visionsat manual for reference.

Thanks in advance.
Kathryn

glorystar-1.jpgglorystar-2.jpgglorystar-3.jpgglorystar-4.jpgglorystar-6.jpgglorystar-7.jpgglorystar-5.jpgDoes this particular Glorystar dish have a large offset angle?
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We've updated the firmware using the directions and file found in this thread. I've attached a screen shot. I'm assuming our equipment is now squared away?

visionsat-145-firmware.jpg

We rescanned for all FTA channels and found 143, pretty close to what we had before.

Our next big hurdle is wiring. Right now the only way to watch the FTA satellite is to sit outside beside the dish with the little 13 inch TV we used for finding the signal. Not much fun in February in the Pacific Northwest.

My husband has done extensive CAT5 and coax wiring for our existing ethernet and OTA antenna, with splitters/punch down block and a power booster. He has no experience with satellite wiring.

Are there any sticky threads dedicated to wiring info or other recommended sites we should check out? We have 5 TV's - for starters I'd like to have him run wire for two of them with the option later on to add a few more TVs to the mix.

Thanks again for everyone's help.
Larobpra
If your husband has ran coax for OTA, then he can do FTA with no problem. Just use good RG6 coax with compression connectors for best results. Lots of wiring info here - http://www.satelliteguys.us/fta-mpeg2-faqs/134124-switch-setups-simplified.html

The Visionsat is a great receiver. The PVR feature works great too. I just use a 16 gig thumb drive for the little bit of recording I do. And as Iceberg said, those signal readings are about right too.

And :welcome to SatelliteGuys!
rv1pop
First recommendation from me is to run 2 - RG-6 from the dish into the house - or 4 if you want both satellites on the Glorystar system. Then you can run a bunch of receivers and tvs off the system. With only one and one receiver you will only get one channel to all 5 tvs...

But what is it you want to do? Multi receivers will also mean the dual output bullets from Satellite AV - Glorystar

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Anole
getting the most from what ya got

...Our next big hurdle is wiring.

...My husband has done extensive CAT5 and coax wiring for our existing ethernet and OTA antenna, with splitters/punch down block and a power booster.
He has no experience with satellite wiring.

We have 5 TV's - for starters I'd like to have him run wire for two of them with the option later on to add a few more TVs to the mix.
Are we talking about getting the signal from the dish to multiple satellite receivers , one in each room.
If so, the link above to the Switches Simplified FAQ should be helpful.

If you want to take the signal out of your one Visionsat and feed multiple TV sets, then your husband probably already has all the experience needed.

The different satellite sources have widly varying picture quality.
But to see the best of what they offer, I'd recommend the Svideo or Component video outputs of the receiver.
Composite would be my last choice... and the RF output wouldn't be a choice at all. ;)
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The wiring will have to run outside, under the front and side porch, and must be flexible enough to add a 7 foot C-band dish that's sitting in pieces in our garage. I twisted my husband's arm to pick it up for free late last summer. Knowing nothing about satellite systems yet wanting a happy wife, he said he was more comfortable starting with a Ku size dish on our small suburban lot before tackling the seven footer. Hence the Glorystar maiden voyage of the past week.

I admit venturing into satellite TV is way more important to me right now than it is to him. Frankly, he thinks I've lost my mind.

To keep him happy so the project moves forward, he needs a logical, expandable wiring system that will give a good signal considering how long the wire runs will be as well as eventually powering both the C-band and Ku with motors. We also plan on having a receiver at each TV site.

It is more important to my husband to do it right the first time with correct parts, rather than ripping out and making due as we go along.

The rough sketch diagrams show a C-band dish eventually on the right side of our lot. The Ku dish will be on the second floor. We haven't decided yet on Site A or Site B for its location. Site A has better LOS for satellites falling below 82W and Site B has much easier maintenance access, both upstairs and where we could put a junction box below.

We are hoping we can combine the signals from the Ku and C-band dishes at some sort of junction area before running the RG6 to each TV location.

As I said, we are just starting out on the wiring phase so any suggestions or links to good wiring info are appreciated.

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rv1pop
Pacific NW is a small part of the nation, yet bigger than some states.... Approximately what part of PNW is home to you? We were at Swamp Creek hollow (near S. Everett) for over 30 years, 1600 feet east of the well. If I was there still, it would probably be a short trip to help youif you needed it - but I do not think you will!

With those distances, you should have no problems with cabling. In most of the PNW one dish with two dual output lnbs on the KU dish will be OK. Not too much wind and good signal path. As the addiction --eerr - HOBBY gets stronger, you will use both A and B as well as ----- OK I have 6 KU dishes set up to run but I do have wind problems. Plan on using switches. Run the cables as if you were going to hook them up. Then buy only the switches you need to use to start. To get started you 'might' want to use one receiver for 2 tvs, but if you want to easiest run, I would go with two receivers, getting the setup going with one, then continuing with the second box.
I can not go to the switches simplified page, but there is a fabulous switch discussion there. Four cables from the KU dish to the Jbox site. Figure on using the switch that comes with the Glorystar setup, maybe get a second one if you need it, or go ahead and get the multi-switch now so you can just add the cabling for receivers 3 thru 8 later. I can not remember how they call out the switches, so I say 4 lnb outputs to 8 receiver inputs. Is that a 4X8 or 8X4 -- I can not remember! 'Nuf for now.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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JSheridan
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
S
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
S
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
i wouldn't know :) ;)
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osu1991
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Doesn't mean that satellite would have to go away. Dish is already in the game with Sling which needs a good overhaul
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JSheridan
Dish Anywhere has gotten a lot better but still has no Pause/Play/Skip Trick Play controls on the national channels that stream from Dish and that don't come from you Hopper. DirecTV Stream doesn't have that limitation.
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Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
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TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?
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navychop
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?
V
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.
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I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also
Tom Speer
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.
Jimbo
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.
S
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite
JSheridan
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.
S
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired
b4pjoe
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.
JSheridan
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
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And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
why not just do a rebranding of the two :what
JSheridan
why not just do a rebranding of the two :what
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.
b4pjoe
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.
Jimbo
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.
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I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.
JSheridan
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.
b4pjoe
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.
Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.
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It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.
i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin been there ;):coco
S
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.
agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what ;)
R
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.
Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.
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If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.
they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!
Comptech
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.
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cp2k
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.
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The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.
We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny ;) :) :)
Comptech
squirrel GIF
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!
Comptech
Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.
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i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell ;)
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these are good for travel
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Bobby
Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
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Rest In Peace 😢
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.
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osu1991
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.
Jimbo
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.
As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.
Y
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Ronnie-
I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.
Ronnie-
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.
The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban
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Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies
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Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders
dishstaller
Cool Change - Little River Band
long_time_Dish
Change Of The Guard - Steely Dan
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.