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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I chatted with a Dish agent tonight and she told me that yes they did have MSG and MSG+ available in my area now. From what I just read on this web site it's not even uplinked anymore. The following is the transcript of what she said:

Welcome to DISH Network, your home for TV Everywhere and HD Free for life. To better assist with your buying experience and ensure that we can contact you in case the session is disconnected, please provide your phone number using this format 999-999-9999.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Hi! Thank you for logging in to Dish Network. How can I help you today?
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Are you still there?
bill: I used to be a dish customer and was wondering what I would have to do if I wanted to sign up for the Locals only pack
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Thank you for asking.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Just to verify, would you like to establish a new account?
bill: What would it cost for Locals only?
bill: I would only have one receiver for now
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Give me a moment while I do that.
bill: thank you
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Thank you for waiting.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): It shows here that we no longer establish local programming for new customers.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): What you would need is to subscribe for our Core packages.
bill: I thought you offered locals only?
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): We offer locals together with the core packages.
bill: What is the least espensive package you have right now
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): If I may ask, how many TVs are we hooking up and how many are in HD?
bill: I would have one receiver for now and I own that one as well as the dish is already setup
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Thank you.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): To start building an order for you, may I have your address and zip code, complete name and the phone number that we would register on your order?
bill: I would need a price first
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Okay.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): The least expensive package that we have right now is our America's Top 120 package.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): To start building an order for you, may I have your address and zip code, complete name and the phone number that we would register on your order?
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): I am sorry
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): please disregard the message.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): This is an exceptionally well-priced package that will please every member of your family. You will always find something different to watch which means you will have more variety for your viewing pleasure. It includes over a 100 channels with the best in entertainment, sports, news and children's programming with channels like Lifetime, CNN, ESPN and Disney Channel.
bill: Does that include the local RSN's like MSG
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): No.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): You can get America's Top 120 package instead.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): This is an exceptionally well-priced package that will please every member of your family. It includes over a 100 channels with the best in entertainment, sports, news and children's programming with channels like Lifetime, CNN, ESPN and Disney Channel plus your Regional Sports and Big Ten Network where available. You will always find something different to watch which means you will have more variety for your viewing pleasure.
bill: So Dish has MSG back on the air?
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Yes.
bill: Are you sure? That is why I cancelled my account
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Yes I am sure bill.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Can I have your zip code please?
bill: 11977
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Thank you.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Give me a moment.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Madison Square Garden 412 / Madison Square Garden Plus 413 and SportsNet New York 438 is available now in your area.
bill: I just looked and it says only SNY is available and that MSG is still off because of a contract dispute. Did they just settle the contract dispute?
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): We already have it in our programming list according to your zip code.
bill: I was told the same thing last time but when they they activated my account there was no MSG, that is why I am asking. I know I am supposed to get MSG but is it available
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Yes, it is available.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): If you are hesitating about the MSG programming. You can call 1-800-894-9131 to speak with one of our Customer Service Representatives.
bill: ok maybe I will do that to make sure.
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Sure. Not a problem.
bill: Can you tell me if you still have the Welcome Pack before i call them. Thanks
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): We no longer have it.
bill: OK Thanks
Catherine (ID: 3OZ): Is there anything else?
bill: no thanks
Customer has initiated a cobrowse session.

This is not the first time I have been told by Dish that MSG is available when it is not. Then I am told that their Welcome pack is no longer available when I know it is available. Where does Dish get these agents from or maybe I shouldn't blame these agents. I should probably blame Dish management for the way they train these agents and the misinformation they give them. Maybe one of Dish's agents online here can actually give me the correct information. Is MSG available, is the Welcome Pack available and WHY do I always get misinformation from its agents?
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MattG@DISH
Sorry about the misinformation you received. We do not have MSG back. We do offer the Welcome Pack still, but it does require a workaround to get it added to a new account. Once again, sorry for the misinformation, we do our best to keep the misinformation down, and I'll make sure we get some feedback to the agent you chatted with.
Willh699
most CSRs are gonna lie to you when they themselves don't know what's going on with the disputed channels or channels that aren't gonna be coming really soon. if they told you the truth, you would scream "go F*** yourselves, I'm switching providers." they are playing the business guy of "Keep your customer happy".
Islandguy43
Sorry about the misinformation you received. We do not have MSG back. We do offer the Welcome Pack still, but it does require a workaround to get it added to a new account. Once again, sorry for the misinformation, we do our best to keep the misinformation down, and I'll make sure we get some feedback to the agent you chatted with.

So what channels are actually in the Welcome Pack and what are the costs monthly and for setup/installation?
TommyF@DISH Network
So what channels are actually in the Welcome Pack and what are the costs monthly and for setup/installation?

Costs monthly depends on what programming, equipment, etc.. you get. Installation and setup is typically free, though some accounts have an activation fee.

Listing of welcome pack channels can be found below (as of 3/10/11):

107 COMEDY CENTRAL (CMDY) 72.7
107 COMEDY CENTRAL (CMDY) 119
110 FOOD NETWORK (FOOD) 72.7
110 FOOD NETWORK (FOOD) 119
112 HOME & GARDEN TELEVISION (HGTV) 72.7
112 HOME & GARDEN TELEVISION (HGTV) 119
120 HISTORY (HIST) 72.7
120 HISTORY (HIST) 119
127 OXYGEN (OXYGN) 72.7
127 OXYGEN (OXYGN) 119
128 WE: WOMEN'S ENTERTAINMENT (WE) 72.7
128 WE: WOMEN'S ENTERTAINMENT (WE) 119
130 AMC (AMC) 72.7
130 AMC (AMC) 119
134 SHOPNBC (SHNBC) 77
134 SHOPNBC (SHNBC) 119
137 QVC (QVC) 77
137 QVC (QVC) 119
139 TURNER BROADCAST SYSTEM (TBS) 72.7
139 TURNER BROADCAST SYSTEM (TBS) 119
161 MUSIC TELEVISION 2 (MTV2) 72.7
161 MUSIC TELEVISION 2 (MTV2) 119
166 COUNTRY MUSIC TELEVISION (CMT) 72.7
166 COUNTRY MUSIC TELEVISION (CMT) 119
175 BOOMERANG (BOOM) 72.7
175 BOOMERANG (BOOM) 110
179 THE HUB (HUB ) 72.7
179 THE HUB (HUB ) 110
183 LEARNING CHANNEL, THE (TLC) 72.7
183 LEARNING CHANNEL, THE (TLC) 119
185 HALLMARK CHANNEL (HLMRK) 72.7
185 HALLMARK CHANNEL (HLMRK) 110
203 BLOOMBERG TELEVISION (BITV) 72.7
203 BLOOMBERG TELEVISION (BITV) 110
209 MSNBC (MSNBC) 72.7
209 MSNBC (MSNBC) 119
214 THE WEATHER CHANNEL (TWC) 72.7
214 THE WEATHER CHANNEL (TWC) 119
222 HSN (HSN) 72.7
222 HSN (HSN) 119
230 ICTV (ICTV) 119
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What would be the cost for the Welcome Pack for one owned 211 receiver and the dish already setup? Is there any fee to startup or contract? I was an existing customer for over 12 years until they took MSG off so I had Dish shut off all of my owned receivers except one and I also switched from AT200 to Locals only until they got MSG back. After the switch I had more problems with their billing and misinformation that I just canceled completely.
TommyF@DISH Network
The Welcome Pack is 14.99 for the account. As you already have previous purchased equipment we should be able to just activate the account for you no commitment. I would have to look at the account to see what's available in terms of getting services reactivated for you though; if you would like to PM me the # I can check.
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
navychop
"WARNING Will Robinson!"
Don in CT
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
Scott Greczkowski
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched. :)
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A.I. - Be careful what you wish for…
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
coolman302003
Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Almighty1
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
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Renewed for season 5.
K
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Neutron
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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dfergie
This hits hard, R.I.P. ...
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
Bobby
Rest in peace. Long live Jean Luc Picard…
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
HipKat
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style
"MysteryMan"
2026-10 Preview Update Builds: 26300.9818 and 26200.9818 (KB5127936) has been released. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart. Quality improvements only. No new operating system features.
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Actually it looks like there are a lot of features new or updated, although most are on a gradual rollout schedule.

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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Foxbat
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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I want it and I have to have it.

I can neuter the phoning home with adguard home so it won't be doing that in my castle but I prefer without Internet so that my TVs in the house don't turn into e-waste