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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Downsizing and possibly closing some brick and morter. Beefing up web only product with more aggressive pricing.

Best Buy Beefing Up Web, Downsizing Stores - 2011-04-04 04:01:00 | TWICE

After the big boxes killed the local stereo store, it looks like they are being solidly kicked by Amazon and Tiger Direct.

I predict that BB won't get it right and will continue to slide.
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rockymtnhigh
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Oh God, I hope not. Last thing we need is more mom and pop shops! Seriously they should all just go under or have the owners be jailed for scamming people. A local A/V shop wanted $1200 for my receiver; I paid $800 at Best Buy. The same shop is selling my TV for $3500, Best Buy had it for $2200. My Blu Ray player, they wanted $300, I paid $250 at BB. And to boot, they didn’t even have anything in stock. Unless I wanted to buy the display item (no discount given) I would have had to put it on order. Whereas with Best Buy (one with a Magnolia) I just went in and walked out with what I wanted.

Two themes to conment on.

First, I have very rarely found ANYTHING at BB that is priced cheaper than Amazon. Every time I go into BB I use the Amazon barcode scanner, and almost always find products for considerably less. This is usually true at Fry's as well, unless it is a sale.

Secnd, At the same time, it is true that mom and pops have to charge more, they do not buy in bulk, but you get service from them that the idiots at BB provide. Granted no pre-sales service from Amazon, but their post-sale customer service can not be beat.

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Hall
Secnd, At the same time, it is true that mom and pops have to charge more, they do not buy in bulk...
The mom-and-pop stores might charge more for a lot, but in many cases, Sony, for example, isn't it true that Sony doesn't allow the retailer much leeway in the price to the customer ? They do this to "help" or protect the smaller stores.

Also, it's my understanding that the mark-up on consumer electronics is HUGE so the price on the sticker at the mom-and-pop store may be higher, or a lot higher, than at Best Buy, but pull out cash and make an offer. You can be sure that they know that you know you can probably get it at BB cheaper so instead of making 50% mark-up, they'll settle for 20% or even 10% .... cause they're both more than 0% !!
lakebum431
How many of those do you think actually get filed? :) At least in states where there is a line item in the state income tax form there is something that people at least have to either fill out or intentionally skip.
rockymtnhigh
Does Turbo Tax have a interview question on that tax in those states which have it? At least in Colorado and Illinois, I have never seen such questions, thankfully.
Steve Mehs
The mom-and-pop stores might charge more for a lot, but in many cases, Sony, for example, isn't it true that Sony doesn't allow the retailer much leeway in the price to the customer ? They do this to "help" or protect the smaller stores.

I've heard that as well, and if you belong to Best Buy's Reward Zone program those once a month 10% off coupons that get emailed to you, in the fine print it pretty much says not valid on any Sony, Apple or Bose products. But that doesn't explain how I managed to save upwards of $3000 when other then the Xbox 360, every other item I purchased (TV, BD Player, A/V Receiver, 5.1 Speaker Set Up, PS3) a few months ago is a Sony product and none of the savings was due to closeouts.

Mom and pop shops are good for one thing though, in the event they do have a lower price, there is price matching. This totally slipped my mind. In 2006 when I bought my first HDTV I went to a local shop and found a 42" Sony HDTV I liked, I went across the street to Circuit City they were $100 higher but did a meet and beat by $50. When back across the street they said they couldn't do better, so it was off to Circuit City. I used the local shop like a $2 whore and then threw her to the curb after I got what I needed!

Nothing like pitting the competition against each other, and in this instance as well, the stupid local store didn't have the TV in stock.

As for the taxes, Screw NY state! This state and my corrupt county get so much undeserved money it makes me sick. I have yet to wrap my head how taxes can be charged on used goods. On used cars for example. In 2007 I purchased a 2005 Lincoln Aviator luxury SUV that cost $47,000 originally. Both NY State and my county made upwards of $2,000 EACH on that purchase from the original owner. A couple years later I buy THE EXACT SAME ITEM that someone already purchased and I have to pay tax on it. Nothing more than double dipping. So F NY State! F Erie County! I won't lose one wink of sleep tonight because I didn't pay tax on my TV.
lakebum431
As for the taxes, Screw NY state! This state and my corrupt county get so much undeserved money it makes me sick. I have yet to wrap my head how taxes can be charged on used goods. On used cars for example. In 2007 I purchased a 2005 Lincoln Aviator luxury SUV that cost $47,000 originally. Both NY State and my county made upwards of $2,000 EACH on that purchase from the original owner. A couple years later I buy THE EXACT SAME ITEM that someone already purchased and I have to pay tax on it. Nothing more than double dipping. So F NY State! F Erie County! I won't lose one wink of sleep tonight because I didn't pay tax on my TV.

Here is something even stranger. In Georgia (where I lived for 8.5 years) when you buy a used car from a dealer you pay tax, when you buy a used car from an individual you do not owe tax (this is not a situation as we have been discussing, but is actually the law). Explain how that makes any sense at all!!! Of course you do have to pay ad valorem (property tax) on cars every year but that is totally separate from the sales tax above.
TheForce
Sales tax is a tax on a sale. Doesn't matter whether it is a used item or not. However, as with most taxes, laws can be written to exempt some items. That varies greatly with each state. e.g. here in Florida compressed gas is tax exempt. Equipment used to create broadcast TV is tax exempt if you declare it first on a special form, pay the tax, then the state sends it back to you at the end of the year. Now that one is really weird.
osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.