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rrob311
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
With all of the FTA channels going down off of satellites lately one has to wonder how much it costs to have a station/channel transmitted onto a satellite. With some of these channels just going away or streaming on the internet it seems like there is going to be much more space for channels on all of these satellites in the sky. Since DTV and DN pretty much have a biopoly(is that a word?) at this point one would think that soon they will be broken up with antitrust suits. There needs to be some new competition out there at some point. With C-band going down along with a lot of the Ku FTA there is a void that will need to be filled. I got into FTA because I simply cannot afford an extra bill every month. I think that FTA will continue to be an attractive investment for anyone in a rural area.

When Cable TV first came out in the US it was first put into an area that did not have much if any OTA reception and it was to bring TV to the people of NE PA. Back then FTA wasn't an option and when C band came out much later it was pretty expensive. Anyone that I knew that had Cband in the 80s were well off. Now DTV and DN have pretty much wiped out Cband but many people cannot afford much and now that FTA setups are very cheap it seems like it would allow people to have free reception in areas that don't have OTA options. I think that if the job situation in this country continues in the same direction less people will want to pay to watch tv so there is hope for FTA imho. Between the cable companies, DN, and DTV they have a majority of households in the country paying them money every month when there should be more options especially now that the technology has gotten way better.

It just seems like a lot of the dish space is going to be wasted and the satellite owners are going to have to lower prices or do something to attract more channels. With all of the advertising money/opportunity out there I feel like there is a bright future for FTA or at least maybe some better pricing with a new satellite provider. Seriously these big guys are getting way too big just like the phone companies. It seems like in the near future satellite internet will become more affordable if anything. Some of the networks spend enough money on VHF/UHF broadcasting so maybe someone will see some opportunity in doing the same with satellites. It doesn't seem like it would cost more to transmit from the ground to the sky as opposed to having large antennas (especially in flat areas) in order to put the stations out there that need to be lit so air traffic does not run into it.
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SatelliteAV
Certainly a perception is out there that does not reflect the reality of the satellite market. Demand for satellite bandwidth continues to grow and I wouldn't expect any discounts as the price is regulated by supply and demand. Satellite is the least expensive distribution method for a broadcaster to deliver multicast programming to more than 15 or 20 sites. The DTH satellite market North America continues to grow and we have more unencrypted programming available now than at any point since I started in satellite over 25 years ago. The technology changes and we need to change with it by migrating to a different band, decoding method and transition away from linear streaming media (I.E. broadcasting).

North America DTH has too much open space that is not economical to be served by wire / fiber land based high bandwidth. Satellite addresses this geographical challenge and will continue to be a preferred delivery method until another wide area wireless technology can provide bandwidth and reliability. High speed by powerline and wide area WiFi have not materialized to service rural areas and cellular may become the dominant technology to provide access to multimedia.

Is the sky falling? Absolutely not! Is broadcasting dying? Absolutely! Is media consumption increasing? Absolutely! We are watching a rapid evolution in the delivery of media. Just like the town crier, magazine subscriptions and the newspaper, TV and radio is changing. My prediction is that in 10 years from now, most of us will still have satellite dishes, but instead of primarily watching linear programming services, we probably be capturing datacasts and accessing or archiving our favorite content on a local memory bank, regional / national repositories or "Clouds".
Bob2011
I think alot of folks don't understand that nearly everything in America is done for a
profit. Every satellite channel up there is paid for by an organization either to profit
through your viewership or to reprogram your mind. Even in Europe what looks like free
satellite is paid for by the public through licensing or taxes. If you were to look at the
rest of the world the future of TV is pushing towards IPTV because of the availability of
high speed connections. With government subsidized internet in these countries you can see a time where broadcast tv is pointless when everyone has a high speed internet connection.

The US of course operates on a different playing field where better technology will be held back if it is not profitable enough or hurts the profits of established infrastructure. The internet here is controlled by corporations who for the most part have TV operations in their portfolio. So for IPTV to flourish here it would have to be provided directly by the
internet provider with a subscription structure. If TV networks were to attempt large scale internet TV on their own I am sure the internet providers would work to shut it down or cripple it through throttling or data caps. If anyone here was an early high speed internet subscriber back before Napster then they understand this can happen. I remember before Napster when upload speeds where nearly as fast as downloads at Comcast. Then when Napster exploded they figured out a way to get their network back by simply crippling the upload speed to 128K. It took over five years for those speeds to come back up but they were never the same. The solution now is a monthly data cap.

So in ten years I still see a mix of all technologies. There will be more internet TV for
networks with small viewership because it will be cheaper than satellite. Large networks
will still use satellite to distribute programming to cable and DTH satellite providers but
may move to fiber/landline for secondary programming. This move would cut us out of an
opportunity to get FTA so by then we may be down to strictly foreign channels and a few religious channels. Now if channels go off of satellite it may open opportunities for data downloads like SatelliteAV described above. New satellites may become even more powerful and everyone could have a tiny dish on their homes to collect programming in file form stored on large hard drives for later viewing.
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Sat TV for free will never die

When I started selling/installing DVB-S in 1992, people paid 1,500 for a receiver to get 5 channels. There has never been more channels available, and with the multi-casting of so many channels for each transponder, it has never cost them less to broadcast. So, where is my "ranching for profit" and "The Cattlemans Channel"? It's being held back by the newest large Corp. that want to be the only broadcaster; own all the broadcast rights; buy's other smaller cable/channel/communication companies; and wants to not spend money on a "new" channel, but instead wants to syndicate a "program" like it, and show it on one of his channels, making instant profit, and have instant gratification, knowing he could've spent millions, and never made a cent.

As the rest have said; is all too true. Internet bandwidth is not costly; but is by no means the easiest way to get started or to broadcast to the most people whom will sell your programs and channels,cable;pie sky dishes (look at "the sportsmans channels"); fiber; No matter what, it is a business, and the more hands you can get your channel into, the more you will make.
Look at your local channels, they have noless value on their ad dollar (the most); and they have their most valuable programs on replay on every channel around to get re-payed...
The bandwidth game is really where satellite tv/microwaves have been; and they get globalized in its use; and nowhere of a CONUS cannot be seen with one, and mileage, 44k miles, to really, there isn't a limit when you travel on light...As such, 50 MHz per transponder has neverbeen worth more...
El_Viejo
Just as an example, MHZ Worldview left 97W because of the high cost. I emailed them to ask why they were off the satellite and that is what they responded, that they were going to use other less expensive means to supply their channel to their affiliates. They are similar to the pbs setup as I understand it. So they are supported by donations and/or sales from their online store. Look at 123W, there is hardly anything there now, so so much for others grabbing up open transponders. i.e. FreeDBS!! El_Viejo
zamar23
My prediction is that in 10 years from now, most of us will still have satellite dishes, but instead of primarily watching linear programming services, we probably be capturing datacasts and accessing or archiving our favorite content on a local memory bank, regional / national repositories or "Clouds".
Wouldn't be more realistic outcome resulting in sharp decrease in dish installations, while people be downloading streamed from local repositories content over a landline internet or wide area Wi-Fi? Though the satellite leg may still be used to distribute the content to local depositories?

The "broadcasting dying" observation seems to be confirmed by market reports like Slowdown in N. American digital cable and satellite subscribers hurts video infrastructure market. But it may be a sign of falling middle class income rather than technology breakthrough. I agree with Bob2011 that we are to see star wars between various providers intensify. For example, many companies delivering Cable TV, also offer Cable Internet services. For them increase in IPTV traffic would seem to mean scrapping old Cable TV infrastructure that gives now pure profit for decades without significant investment, and increasing their Internet capabilities that require significant new investments - only to achieve seemingly same result of delivering the SAME content to subscribers via IPTV which is now delivered via Cable TV, and possibly at lower sub fees. So they would fight to death lobbing to block this move as they can, and simple way is to impose Internet traffic caps & over-usage fees. That's seen currently happening in Canada with Rogers heavily lobbying legislators & government bodies to block unlimited Internet subs offered by their competitors.
rrob311
Ya where I live (20 minutes outside a major city) I have low bandwidth on my DSL line and almost no OTA TV reception. So my options for high speed are a weak DSL connection or a choppy Cable internet connection, or satellite. I think that a lot of people can't afford a subscription every month with prices going up the way they have been so there should be a lot of opportunity for all of these abandoned pizza dishes to point to something else where another company will have a lot of opportunity to take market share away from the large providers. Even if they paid for a couple of coveted channels to broadcast FTA someone should be able to have enough opportunity with advertisement profits to make something happen.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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navychop
Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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navychop
So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
dfergie
Have the beef version of the above mixed and covered in the fridge to soak up flavor, have a lb of ground pork will same with... (down to 2 rolls of previous chorizo batches)
dfergie
Mixed 1 lb pork same way, tested about 4 hours later, both good.
Meal prepped scrambled egg bowls with both and stashed in fridge, had beef version this morning… Good mix.
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So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
i have a cabelas carnivore 1 HP grinder worth the $$$ if you have it. i fried to many kitchenaids to count. ofcourse it was the el cheapo model
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made some chicken parm sausages and some bacon cheeseburger sausages and smoked whiskey bacon sausages
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Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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Who cares if it's cheaper than store bought. you do realize that ground beef is like hot dogs right lips and a**holes!!! you have no idea whats in it and what animal came from what carcass right :what. get a nice chuck roast!!!
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
T
They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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Darrell S
I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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AZ.
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Jimbo
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Y
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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meStevo
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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