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cyunquer

Last reply May 3, 2011 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

FTA newbie requesting some advise!

Hello guys!
As I said before I'm new at all FTA matters but willing to take some new challenges. I've been reading around, you know doing my homework on what these FTA deal was all about until it was time to get my hands dirty and my behind numbed

. I've already set everything up; post (plumb), dish with motor, LNBF and receiver, now, after setting latitude, longitude and azimuth I'm still getting a 45% of signal Int. and 5% of signal quality, moved it bit by bit east to west and up and down without having much result.

Questions:
1. I would like to understand better how to deal with the transponders (active or dead and where do I get this info.) and LNB freq. when trying to acquire one of these birds.
2. Is my dish elevation correct and does it vary depending on the sat I'm looking for?
3.Which satellite should I start with that has a good strong transponders?

Location Info.
Newark, NJ 07104
Latitude: 40.78°
Longitude: -74.17°

(Sadoun-Satellite Dish Look Angle Heading Calculator)
Motor Latitude: 40.8°
Declination Angle: 6.4°
Dish Elevation: 39°
Elevation: 42.9°
Azimuth (true): 180.0°
Azimuth (mag.): 193.1° using compass

The equipment:
Openbox S9 HD-PRV
RG-6 coax cable
33" Dish
Stab HH90 motor
JSC322-2 Universal KU LNBF - Twin

Okey guys, I don't want to over do it for now, although I know I have a lot more questions.
Any suggestion, guidance, instruction or help will be more than appreciated.

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Anole

Apr 29, 2011

When you go for your first FTA setup, there are about 100 variables which all have to be perfect.

Here's one nobody seems to have mentioned.
That LNBF you chose (which no longer shows up on the Sadoun page linked) is Universal, not Standard.
Here's the first site I found with info on it.
JSC322-2 Ku Universal Twin Output 0.2dB LNB

You'll need to set your receiver for Universal LNB, or 9.75 and 10.6 GH Local Oscillator frequencies.
That may be more like: 9750 and 10600, depending on how the receiver wants it.
But you do NOT want the Standard setting of: 10750.

I'm sure this is not the only tiny error, but it's just one of those things.

Best of luck.

AcWxRadar

Apr 30, 2011

Try reading this (my personal help file for Ku motorized setups):

http://www.satelliteguys.us/fta-mpeg2-faqs/190527-how-set-up-motorized-ku-band.html

RADAR

cyunquer

May 2, 2011

Hello guys!
First, I'm very grateful for all your comments and help!
Second, I caught my first birds this weekend.... ..... It was a real rush seeing that signal freq. spiking up from 45% to 89% and from 5% to 72% hmmm great feeling! Well, I'm happy report that I've got the 97w, 89w and strangely enough 30W. Now I'm having trouble tuning other satellites without having to fine tune every time I stop on other sat locations, questions:
1-Does the dish have to be fine tuned for every sat? And if so, won't that disarrange</SPAN> the rest of the sat's already in sync?
2-Symbol Rates lower than a 1000 can't be marked on the receiver, only higher than 1000. Could someone explain?
3-Is there a list of sat's than can or can not be found from my location?

Well, hope everything is fine with everyone and again, thanks very much for your words of advice, take care y'all!!!

Tron

May 3, 2011

To answer your questions, once the motorized dish is correctly adjusted on the arc, no further fine tuning is necessary. Assuming you have your motor elevation correctly set on your latitude, and the dish elevation and motor assembly azimuth are adjusted for maximum signal across the arc, you're set. Just lock down all of your bolts.

I'm not sure I've ever encountered a symbol rate under 1000. That would be a very low quality signal. Symbol rates below 3000 often are not found by a blind scan, and sometimes must be entered manually.

From New Jersey, you should be able to see at least from 127W on the Western end of your arc to 15W on the Eastern end. However, not all satellites (especially the ones toward the Eastern end of the arc) beam a signal toward North America.

AcWxRadar

May 3, 2011

cyunquer said:
1-Does the dish have to be fine tuned for every sat? And if so, won't that disarrange</SPAN> the rest of the sat's already in sync

Cyunquer,

I don't know what city you live nearest, so I will just pick Newark for an example to help explain some items for you.

There are three limitations as to how much of the satellite "field" or arc that you can use.

First, the curvature of the earth limits the maximum satellite arc that you can possibly view to approximately +/- 76° away from your site's longitude. Any satellite beyond that will be below the horizon and you just cannot see it no matter what. So, if you were in Newark, NJ with a longitude of 74°W, then with a FIXED point dish you could theoretically view satellites with orbital positions between 2°E through 150°W.

When you attach a H-H motor, you decrease the usable span of the satellite arc because the motor and mechanical brackets have physical limitations as to how far they can turn. This is approximately +/- 67°. Therefore, from Newark, NJ the maximum satellite field with a H-H motor would be from 7°W to 141°W using DiSEqC 1.2 motor positioning.

Now, if you adopt the use of USALS motor positioning, there is a software limitation within the USALS program that tightens this arc further. This limitation is aproximately +/- 60°. Therefore, from Newark, NJ your maximum satellite field would be from 14°W to 134°W.

As TRON mentioned, not all satellites beam a signal that can be received in your location. The satellite might be within your range of LOS, but if they don't project a signal your way, it doesn't do you any good to look for it.

Now to address the question of "fine tuning" the dish and motor assembly for each satellite. This depends upon what you mean by fine tuning. If you are using DiSEqC 1.2 motor positioning, you do have to LOCATE each satellite and store their position in the motor's memory. That is not exactly "fine tuning", it is actually just "locating" them on the arc.

When using USALS, you don't have to locate each individual satellite in this manner. The USALS program does this for you.

However, in either method of motor control, DiSEqC or USALS, you need to have your dish and motor assembly calibrated to the arc. Since you have achieved reception from 30.0°W and 97.0°W with fair quality signal levels, you must have your dish and motor aligned fairly well to track the arc. It may not be as optimimum as it can be yet, but you are covering a wide portion of the arc.

The other satellites in between 30 and 97 may be sparse. You should be able to acquire signals from 61.0W Amazonas, 63.1°W Telstar 14, 72.0°W AMC 6, maybe 74.0°W Horizons 2 if they are broadcasting anything (mostly sporadic feeds nowadays), 83.0°W AMC 9, 85.0°W AMC 16, 87.0°W AMC 3 and 89.0°W Galaxy 28. I think you should also be able to acquire signals from 99.0°W Galaxy 16, 101.1°W SES 1, 103.0°W AMC 1, 107.3°W Anik F1, 123.0° Galaxy 18 and 124.9°W AMC 21.

If you cannot dial in on these sats that I listed above, then you probably need to fine tune your dish and motor to the arc. But NOT to any one particualr satellite. As you pondered early on, if you try to peak the signal for one specific sat, you may degrade the signal from another satellite. You are right on there! What you need to do is start from the near center of your arc (somewhere near 74W) and work your way out towards the ends of the arc. In the guide that I posted, I paraphrase a procedure to do that.

There are probably more sats in there that you should get, I just browsed quickly through the ones that I found active right now. Other sats are either not beaming signals to you, are not broadcasting 24/7, are encrypted or are broadcasting in a different band.

RADAR

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TheForce

Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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comfortably_numb

Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

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Foxbat

Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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comfortably_numb

Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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harshness

Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

slow_poke_pete

12 minutes ago

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 32 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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Strega

Friday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Saturday at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 10:40 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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charlesrshell

Today at 11:23 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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bnewt

Today at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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slow_poke_pete

59 minutes ago

charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

i wouldn't know

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osu1991

55 minutes ago

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

Doesn't mean that satellite would have to go away. Dish is already in the game with Sling which needs a good overhaul

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JSheridan

32 minutes ago

Dish Anywhere has gotten a lot better but still has no Pause/Play/Skip Trick Play controls on the national channels that stream from Dish and that don't come from you Hopper. DirecTV Stream doesn't have that limitation.

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vlad_

Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Thinking of switching to DirecTV

I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?

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navychop

Sep 28, 2026

I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

vlad_

Sep 29, 2026

navychop said:
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?

I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

slow_poke_pete

Sep 29, 2026

vlad_ said:
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.

The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

Tom Speer

Sep 29, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

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Jimbo

Oct 2, 2026

JSheridan said:
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?

Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 3, 2026

Jimbo said:
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.

the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

JSheridan

Oct 3, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite

I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

slow_poke_pete

Oct 4, 2026

JSheridan said:
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.

our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired

So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

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JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

b4pjoe said:
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.

And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

why not just do a rebranding of the two :what

JSheridan

Oct 5, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
why not just do a rebranding of the two

As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

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b4pjoe

Oct 5, 2026

JSheridan said:
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.

Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

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Nominal

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

JSheridan

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.

We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

JSheridan said:
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.

Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

Nominal said:
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.

i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin

been there

slow_poke_pete

Oct 7, 2026

JSheridan said:
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.

agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what

robjlevin

Oct 7, 2026

Jimbo said:
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.

Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.

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slow_poke_pete

39 minutes ago

Tom Speer said:
If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.

they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!

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Comptech

Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

Base antenna for SiriousXM

Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.

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cp2k

Jul 5, 2026

The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

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comfortably_numb

Jul 5, 2026

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Arctic_fox

Jul 6, 2026

cpalmer2k said:
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.

We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny

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Comptech

Jul 6, 2026

comfortably_numb said:
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!

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Comptech

Jul 7, 2026

Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.

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Arctic_fox

Jul 16, 2026

i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell

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slow_poke_pete

42 minutes ago

these are good for travel

osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 3:37 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90

Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.

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Bobby

Today at 2:03 PM

Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:32 PM

Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...

FTA4PA

Today at 3:37 PM

Rest In Peace

Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 1:27 PM

The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

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osu1991

Today at 1:32 PM

For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

Jimbo

Today at 2:16 PM

Yespage said:
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.

As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.

Yespage

Today at 3:04 PM

You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

Ronnie-

Today at 3:26 PM

I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.

Ronnie-

Today at 3:30 PM

osu1991 said:
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.

The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 3:30 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban

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Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies

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Cool Change - Little River Band

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Last reply Today at 2:53 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Oct 10, 2026

Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Mr Tony

Oct 19, 2026

Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles.

(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)

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Oct 19, 2026

Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.

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Oct 19, 2026

Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)

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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.

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